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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:31 am

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I think you're missing my point. If believing the claims helps you narrow down your lynch choice but the claims themselves are lies, then you're narrowing down a choice omitting the actual scum.

So, explain to me, please, why you believe those claims individually.

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(16 players alive = 9 to lynch before deadline)
(8) M4yhem – farside22, SpyreX, SleepyPanda, Wall-E, Cass, Empking, Grimmy, Porkens
(2) Wall-E – donkeyz12212, Lord Gurgi
(2) cerebus3 – Battle Mage, CoheedCambria09
(1) Empking – M4yhem
(1) Battle Mage – cerebus3

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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:34 am

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Vote count
(16 players alive = 9 to lynch before deadline)

(8) M4yhem – farside22, SpyreX, SleepyPanda, Wall-E, Cass, Empking, Grimmy, Porkens

(2) Wall-E – donkeyz12212, Lord Gurgi
(2) cerebus3 – Battle Mage, CoheedCambria09
(1) Empking – M4yhem
(1) Battle Mage – cerebus3

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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:39 am

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SpyreX wrote:I think you're missing my point. If believing the claims helps you narrow down your lynch choice but the claims themselves are lies, then you're narrowing down a choice omitting the actual scum.

So, explain to me, please, why you believe those claims individually.
lol qft. Not to mention, my claim was bogus. But thanks for the vote of confidence. :D

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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:53 am

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I take it all back. Just read the case on M4yhem, and it definitely has some value. :o
Even so, i fail to see why he would claim vanilla when a power role claim is almost certain to save him, if it wasnt his role?

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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:57 am

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[quote=spyderX]
FoS: Porkens - Jumping on that late without a reason is very suspicious.
[/quote]

I don't want to bother regurgitating everything that the rest of us have already said about M4yhem.
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:04 pm

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Cass wrote: It is shamelessly hypocritical to vote for someone after you have already voted for someone else (for entirely different reasons I might add)? That would make playing this game pretty tough. It also implicates
all
of the active players :D (Btw, bandwagoning is not at all my reason for voting you. It is the way you jump on and off and the way you fail to defend your actions.)

M4yhem, you sound more and more desperate.
It's hypocritical of you to vote me for jumping on and off bandwagons when you have jumped on and off
the exact same
bandwagons yourself.

How can you condemn me for voting for the same people as you for the same reasons?

Besides, changing my mind is not a scumtell.

And I sound desperate because I am desperate. I don't want to have to leave this game, I liked the setup and I've been waiting for it to start for ages. Besides, I know I am the wrong lynch so anything I can think of that might stop you killing me, I will say.
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I blame BM. His enthusiasm for the quicklynch was contagious.
That was a real quick turnaround you had from being initially opposed to it to wanting to quicklynch. Also, avoiding the fact so many people had chimed in saying it was a bad idea (once Panda's stalled) really puts that in question.
So I changed my mind, big deal. I’ve always been told a quicklynch is bad for town. However, BM reminded me that the setup is different, so a quicklynch might be useful here. Listening to other people is not a scumtell.

As for the people who chimed in later, they weren’t very convincing.
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I don't see how my actions would benefit scum. Bandwagonning maybe yes, but bandwagonning while loudly announcing what you're doing, not so much.
We were ONE away from killing a power-role and you asked for a hammer before a claim - you can't see how that would benefit scum?
I can see how a hammer on an unclaimed powerrole would help scum. What I can’t see is how asking openly for a hammer on an unclaimed powerrole would help me if I was scum.

I did it because I thought it was funny.
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:16 pm

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Hi everyone im here.

Just finished reading. I dont understand why M4yhem is still alive but
Vote M4yhem
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Also FOS Porkens. With him jumping from one bandwagon to another with little to no reason other then to be a part of the main group seems scummy to me. I will have to look into it more for the next day
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:17 pm

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M4yhem wrote:I can see how a hammer on an unclaimed powerrole would help scum. What I can’t see is how asking openly for a hammer on an unclaimed powerrole would help me if I was scum.
If scum have the foresight to see how every action will affect them, they would never lose. Maybe you're just a bad scum player, I don't know.

Is the risk of keeping you around, not knowing if you could be scum, worth it? Vanillas are expendible, especially ones that have claimed. Your only worth to the town now is being part of the body count.
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:18 pm

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Ok, disregard my last post then.
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:20 pm

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raider8169 wrote:Just finished reading. I dont understand why M4yhem is still alive but Vote M4yhem .
That's a pretty good reason for a hammer.

Shouldn't you FOS yourself as well?
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:28 pm

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Did I read that right, was that just hammer?
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:29 pm

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SleepyPanda wrote:]

If scum have the foresight to see how every action will affect them, they would never lose. Maybe you're just a bad scum player, I don't know.

Is the risk of keeping you around, not knowing if you could be scum, worth it? Vanillas are expendible, especially ones that have claimed. Your only worth to the town now is being part of the body count.
I'm not a bad scum player, I'd say average. If you had bothered to read the game I showed you, you'd know that.

I think the risk is good if it gives us a chance to catch scum. You don't know if any of the other players are scum either and you keep them around.
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:30 pm

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Oh wait, I'm dead. Go town. :(
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:39 pm

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SleepyPanda wrote:
raider8169 wrote:Just finished reading. I dont understand why M4yhem is still alive but Vote M4yhem .
That's a pretty good reason for a hammer.

Shouldn't you FOS yourself as well?
I should FOS myself because I joined a bandwagon I thought had reason behind it?
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:44 pm

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raider8169 wrote:
SleepyPanda wrote:
raider8169 wrote:Just finished reading.
I dont understand why M4yhem is still alive
but Vote M4yhem .
That's a pretty good reason for a hammer.

Shouldn't you FOS yourself as well?
I should FOS myself because I joined a bandwagon I thought had reason behind it?
You FOSed Porkens for voting without giving a reason. If the bolded is your reason, it's basically empty words with no real content.

Since your vote was the hammer, your vote also carries more weight.
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:45 pm

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Oops, the last post was mine.
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:47 pm

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Your right my vote does carry weight. I will post my case tomorrow if still needed however if M4yhem is scum like I think then there really is no purpose for it.

Porkens jumped from bandwagon to bandwagon, I have not done that. Granted I replaced in so you cant see what I would have done but I dont jump without reason and dislike it when others do it.
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:52 pm

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I'm not sure what the "rules" are for twilight in this setup but we should probably just get a few beers and chillax out instead of continuing actual conversation until the morning?
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:58 pm

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Sorry, I'm here.

Just moved from Seattle to Boston, so haven't had a chance to read over everything. Trying to get settled again.
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:39 pm

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guys

i just got off the phone with rational thought

she's breaking up with mayhem
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:02 pm

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It's been hard to keep up, sorry mod. Can anyone give me a short, unbiased description of what has happened so far? Then I'll have time to catch up.
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:31 pm

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Septia wrote:It's been hard to keep up, sorry mod. Can anyone give me a short, unbiased description of what has happened so far? Then I'll have time to catch up.
BM hates me.

M4hem was hammered by a replacement. We are now in twilight.

Panda is probably town.

Wall-E claimed tracker.
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:32 pm

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<3 Skruffs.

Anyway, I am moderately suspicious of BM, especially if Mayhem flips scum.

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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:35 pm

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Oh, and coheed cambria seems to be voting me because BM claimed, even though BM has stated in thread the claim is bogus, and if the claim WAS true, I wouldn't be around to be voted.
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:45 pm

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yea, i plan on unvoting when day starts again, I misread the posts.
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