Mini 637: Xyl's Smalltown Plus - Game Over

[Xylthixlm]

Vote Count

armlx -

2

(nhat, ZombieSlayer54)
ZombieSlayer54 -

2

(hasdgfas, armlx)
empking -

1

(wolframnhart)
wolframnhart -

1

(Empking)

Not voting: pwnz, charter

With 8 alive, it will take 5 to lynch. The deadline for day 1 is Saturday, August 15 at 7:00 PM Pacific.

[armlx]

What, am I supposed to say that the death of a townie is good?

Maybe it is. It provides us information.

But it is still nowhere near as good as the death of a scum, which I heartily approve of more than the death of a townie.

I mean, can you REALLY say that you would have preferred iceman to kill Alabaska over someone who is actually scum?

This logic is absurd. Of course I would have rather hit scum then town, but you can't hold it against me that the scummiest player in the game wasn't scum when you agreed on it. And what were your thoughts on Alabaska before he died?

[wolframnhart]

@ZS yes I did poison Emp, problem is that the way it works he will not die until the end of the day, which means not until after a lynch. I am hoping that we find a truely scummy person to vote on because I do not want to lynch someone just for the sake of getting rid of a confusing player.

[armlx]

@ZS yes I did poison Emp, problem is that the way it works he will not die until the end of the day, which means not until after a lynch. I am hoping that we find a truely scummy person to vote on because I do not want to lynch someone just for the sake of getting rid of a confusing player.

What are your thoughts on myself and ZS?

[wolframnhart]

@ armlx

I don't really see you or ZS as scum atm. I think some things were said that might have been misconstrued but I think both of you have actually tried to find scum in some way. There are a couple players like pwnz and styro that haven't really done much yet that have me looking their way, granted its never really a true scum tell to be quiet, but I think in this game being quiet is not a good thing.

[armlx]

What about Has and charter then?

[wolframnhart]

ATM same thing. Has brought up the question originally about the SB bombing one person so we could get two lynches, and of course when he saw my role he saw we could have three. Charter thought Has just wanted to go kill crazy, but after has explained it charter was ok with the plan if everyone else was. After that they started scum hunting as well.

I would like to go back over the posts and see if there were any double takes but I still find it odd that the player that just came in (styro) wrote:

hi, everyone i'm replacing nhat. due to the sheer content of this game so far..can anyone give me a summary of everything that is essential....preferably a summary form a town player, thnx Wink

P.S. i'll be doing a read also, but in case i miss stuff...yea i'm a noob ;D

The bold is mine, and i never really like seeing players start off saying they are noob. I know it's really nothing but to me it seems like that is sometimes used to get others to look over him because he is noob, but as i said, this is just my opinion.

Then the next post was:

Ok I've actually read all of the 15 pages and I would've voted armlx even if my predecessor didn't, besides from the mass-killing plan, armlx gives off a scummy vibe, ... just appearing too comprehensive sometimes, cautious too.

I'm also not liking hasf... for some reason. I'll read thru his individual posts.

... okay I've read hasf...'s individual posts in this game, he seems very defensive of armlx for some reason, even when armlx isn't really under heat, so it can't be scum buddying up to a townie (since armlx wasn't even under pressure).

armlx today and if he flips scum, i'm gunning for hasf's milky arse tmr

doesn't really take a true stand (by that i mean voting). Instead he makes a kind of hit list, another thing I really never like seeing some players do because if they aren't scum, they will usually get themselves mislynched from making a hit list.

[armlx]

I would like to go back over the posts and see if there were any double takes but I still find it odd that the player that just came in (styro) wrote:

hi, everyone i'm replacing nhat. due to the sheer content of this game so far..can anyone give me a summary of everything that is essential....preferably a summary form a town player, thnx Wink

P.S. i'll be doing a read also, but in case i miss stuff...yea i'm a noob ;D

The bold is mine, and i never really like seeing players start off saying they are noob. I know it's really nothing but to me it seems like that is sometimes used to get others to look over him because he is noob, but as i said, this is just my opinion.

Then the next post was:

Ok I've actually read all of the 15 pages and I would've voted armlx even if my predecessor didn't, besides from the mass-killing plan, armlx gives off a scummy vibe, ... just appearing too comprehensive sometimes, cautious too.

I'm also not liking hasf... for some reason. I'll read thru his individual posts.

... okay I've read hasf...'s individual posts in this game, he seems very defensive of armlx for some reason, even when armlx isn't really under heat, so it can't be scum buddying up to a townie (since armlx wasn't even under pressure).

armlx today and if he flips scum, i'm gunning for hasf's milky arse tmr

doesn't really take a true stand (by that i mean voting). Instead he makes a kind of hit list, another thing I really never like seeing some players do because if they aren't scum, they will usually get themselves mislynched from making a hit list.

This is what I was looking for with my questions. Just saying no one is scummy at this point is fairly scummy in itself.

[Styro]

Hi y'all, yes I've been quiet, but I replaced in, so it'll take me some time to get acquainted.

P.S. well, technically my 1st game-post in this forum is in this game (my Newbie Game started later) so when I came to this game, it's all new to me, but I understand you saying that people shouldn't play the noob-card.

I didn't have to take a stance because my predecessor has taken a stance by voting armlx and after reading the game, we came to the same opinion but if you want me to, then :

Unvote armlx
Vote: armlx

I think a hit-list has pros and cons, I want to make clear that I am onto has and armlx, just so my position is clear for everyone. On the other hand, I could see it as a scum tactic to create future mislynches but it was done with the best intention in mind.

[armlx]

just appearing too comprehensive sometimes

What does that even mean?

Styro, please answer that. Also, what specific things that I have done have been too "cautious" or "comprehensive"

[Styro]

blah, it's the 'too-townie' arguing since you appear so much more pro-town than everyone else, it's suspicious.

[armlx]

blah, it's the 'too-townie' arguing since you appear so much more pro-town than everyone else, it's suspicious.

Too townie is a logical fallacy.

[Styro]

yes, I read up on it in the wiki, that's why I didn't follow it up.

[armlx]

yes, I read up on it in the wiki, that's why I didn't follow it up.

What are your reasons for voting me then?

[Styro]

You came up with the plan, I don't want to get fucked over when I find out end game that we've been following a mafia's plan all along. In addition, the way you've been playing, I wouldn't be surprised if you turn out mafia, you are such a good player.

For security reasons you should die today, besides it's not like you have been so very town in the game, too-townie might be a logical fallacy but I trust my gut feelings that you act above and beyond sometimes.

[armlx]

You came up with the plan, I don't want to get fucked over when I find out end game that we've been following a mafia's plan all along. In addition, the way you've been playing, I wouldn't be surprised if you turn out mafia, you are such a good player.

I believe the reason why this is crap logic was already explained in thread.

[Empking]

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... &start=350

Their a link.

That's a link to this page.

Yes on on this page their are some magic things that let people see all the posts by a certain person.

you can also link to a specific post to show us something in particular.

But I can't prove he never does something from one post.

[armlx]

But I can't prove he never does something from one post.

Then show many posts.

[Empking]

That still doesn'ty show he never does something.

[armlx]

That still doesn'ty show he never does something.

If you can not prove he committed the offense, how can you accuse him of it?

[charter]

Wolf, you did poison Emp, correct? He's being EXTREMELY unhelpful when he supposedly has nothing left to lose. He should be trying to help out the town if he's town.

I want to hear more from pwnz, your lurkism and not taking a stanceism is not helping us out in the least. Why are you content with just flying under the radar?

[charter]

I know I'm a broken record, but since we are now looking to lynch, I think we can't put off deciding about night actions any longer. I still advocate not planning them out in thread. Unless anyone voices their objections, I guess this is what we will just default to anyway after we lynch someone.

[Empking]

That still doesn'ty show he never does something.

If you can not prove he committed the offense, how can you accuse him of it?

I can prove it, just not the way you want me to prove it.

[armlx]

I can prove it, just not the way you want me to prove it.

Then do so.

I still advocate not planning them out in thread.

^^

There is also no reason not to use your night ability tonight.

[Styro]

but i don't want to die, i have such a shitty ability, wtf.