Mature Mafia: Game Over

[DrippingGoofball]

What if the mod-duties were granted AT RANDOM??? Knowing my own alignment, I can be certain that they were.

huh, that syntax implies that you know that I am town.

No... where on Earth do you get that?

[Adel]

You've thrown low-level attacks at me all game, but I am pretty confident (from a game design perspective) that one the non-mod-enabled players has got to be scum. The alternatives would be that all of the scum were given mod duties, or that some or all of the scum fakeclaimed mod abilities.

This is a nice theory, exactly the kind of theory that I often receive from my very own tinfoil hat when it's tuned to the wrong frequency.

I am not mod-enabled and I am not scum. The problem with testing your theory is that if I am lynched, we pretty much lose the game.

What if the mod-duties were granted AT RANDOM??? Knowing my own alignment, I can be certain that they were.

my case against you supposes your absent mod intentional made a similar % of mod-enabled and non-mod enabled players scum. I believe that 4 players were non-mod enabled, out of 12, and therefore 1 out of those 4 are scum. You and I are the only non-mod enabled players left alive.

shit... what if this is a 2:10 or 2:1:9 game? I hadn't rethought in light of that possibility.

unvote

[armlx]

What did I do that was scummy armlx?

Unvote DGB for someone completely out of the blue with deadline very close to being reached.

[armlx]

shit... what if this is a 2:10 or 2:1:9 game? I hadn't rethought in light of that possibility.

How can the game be 2:10 if there were 14 players?

[Adel]

um, if I thought there were 12 to start with.
Could we be in a double-scum game? The lack of cross kills at this point makes me doubt it.

I guess that 3:11 with a vig makes pretty good sense. 3:1:10 also would be pretty balanced.

So 1 out of the 4(?) players with no assigned mod duties being scum still fits. 1 out of 3 would fit a little less well, but not by much.

vote: DGB

[Axelrod]

I may still be willing to play the "eliminate those with no Mod powers" game if something much better does not present itself soon. That would mean picking between DGB and Adel. I think DGB has been mostly a non-entity all game. She's pretty much just popped in to vote and give one-liners. I don't have any especially good feelings about her, except there was that point where she self-voted which would be an unusual gambit for scum.

Adel has been more pro-active, though no more effective at figuring out who are scum (not that anyone has been effective). I'm not sure what to feel about her going along with this theory though - whether she would be more or less likely to do this as town/scum and what the fact that we may be right at lynch or lose means. I'm concerned she could be using this as a convenient means of lynching yet one more townie and then going for the win tonight. I also don't like the way she just jumped on and off and on again on DGB, apparently due to confusion about the overall number of players in the game.

Of those with Mod powers, I am going back and forth between Nonny and Armlx as best choices, both of them primarily based on stuff that was done by the people they replaced. Macros' scumminess/lying has been documented, and Coron was completely worthless.

Can we perhaps get a top 2 from everyone? And with 8 people and 5 to lynch and 3 probable scum, no one ought to put anyone on 2 votes or the scum could theoretically "speed-lynch" (although in a game like this that would seem quite risky for them to attempt.)

[Axelrod]

Ooo. I forgot Werebear. I don't like him either. He could totally be scum.

[nonny]

oh okay logic, you were suspicous of glork but never voted him. Sorry my mistake, those happen to humans.

Anyways back from vacation, re-read will take place today.

[logicticus]

well it looks very lazy to not go back and check twice when you had the opportunity


my top 2 are
adel
nonny

im not sure which one i favor more right now

[Adel]

I'll go with DGB or nonny.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'll go with DGB or nonny.

You know Adel, if I believed your logic, and maybe I should, then you're scum.

[Adel]

I'll go with DGB or nonny.

You know Adel, if I believed your logic, and maybe I should, then you're scum.

you are voting for me.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'll go with DGB or nonny.

You know Adel, if I believed your logic, and maybe I should, then you're scum.

you are voting for me.

I am. I will. Until this day ends.

I suggest that the other players pick one player to lynch between Adel and myself.

[Adel]

I suggest that the other players pick one player to lynch between Adel and myself.

I agree.

[Adel]

and if the town lynches me, the vig should kill DGB during the night.

[DrippingGoofball]

and if the town lynches me, the vig should kill DGB during the night.

That's not going to happen, because you're scum. Nice try kid.

[nonny]

and if the town lynches me, the vig should kill DGB during the night.

So you do believe there is still a vig? Or are you fishing?

If the former how do you explain the night kills(i know vigs can choose not to kill, just give me an opinion)

[Adel]

lol @ rolefishing accusation comming from nonny.

I believe that there is a vig in this game. I do not believe that there could be a nk-immune sk or a doctor in this game.

This is normally the part where people claim, adel

Up to you, I don't see any special word, nor could i derive what you meant from day one.

I was looking more for if you had a role like vig or something?

@DGB: read though the posts by tally and nonny. do you see anything?

[nonny]

I wasn't fishing, I flat out asked.

[Adel]

funny, that isn't like your response at the time:

No you are at L-2. And role-fishing? Oh you mean like everyone has been doing since your slip up?

[nonny]

If you really find that suspicous then why are you vote DGB? Really adel, you seem to have nothing right now. Your big huge theory died a long time about and your blinders had to disappear. How about saying what you supposedly see between tally and I, instead of asking DGB to fish something out for you.

[Adel]

I'm voting DGB because I find the 1 out of (3 or 4) non-mods being scum theory convincing. I find you to be a little less likely to be scum, but I do consider macros' editing actions and your subsequent actions (especially your interaction with me) to be signficant scumtells.

In case I do have blinders on, I'm asking DGB to look at a set of interactions that I've looked at. I'm giving her an opening to help the town (especially me) figure out a relationship, just in case she isn't scum.

[Adel]

How about saying what you supposedly see between tally and I, instead of asking DGB to fish something out for you.

I see a relationship I haven't quite been able to get a solid conclusion on. Neither of you have sufered a serious wagon, yet you have exchanged several votes and quite a few words. In many of the sentances where you mention tally you also mention elvis_knits, and at the time I thought you were scum with elvis_knits, so I figured that you were lumping elvis in with an innocent towie for coverage.

[Talitha]

at least one out of the three (or four) players who were not given mod powers has to be scum- or is emptytiger just really tricky? but really it seems to me that one of the non-mods would be scum.

IMO, Emptyger would very likely have randomly assigned the mod powers. Meaning that we can't get anywhere from this line of reasoning.

So, what do people think of Glork's suggestions for scum, now that we know Glork was town? At the least I'd like everyone to take a look at logicticus, and make a judgment... town or scum... ?

(I also need to read over carefully but been busy this weekend and I fear that my week is only going to get busier )

[armlx]

So, what do people think of Glork's suggestions for scum, now that we know Glork was town?

Poor logical implications. Just because Glork was town does not mean he is right. I will however reread Logictus.