Mini 2129 - Anime U-Pick: Shuffle [ALL HAIL THE WEEBS(OVER)]

[Kerset]

lmao is this about me saying that flavorclaiming is bad?

no

[Hectic]

VOTE: L and Light

Because I think Y'shtola is town.

~How does that reasoning justify this vote? Given that Y&T was voting WD?~

-Light

Her last vote was you, but their vote is stuck on Alisae for whatever reason.

I could translate what she's saying if it came to it lul, but I'm missing some context in the game for some of it. The read up should be enlightening.

[Hiraki]

My townpool is in Hectic, Ali, Natirasha and RCE. I need more.

Vote: L and Light

Let's begin here today.

[RCEnigma]

This is for future days but if Natirasha flips scum at any point Alisae is the next lynch and kerset is soft town.

I guess that last part is pending L&L's alignment.

VOTE: L and Light

[Hectic]

Why did I enter your townpool, Hiraki? Or is this a remnant of your Freezer read?

[L and Light]

Anyway Light have you find any scumreads beside me yet?

~You are basically my main scumread, other than that I am mostly focused on PoE

I have Y&T and Natirasha as fellow towncore
RCE, Hectic, and Hiraki as town reads
Enter, Ali, and Norwee as slots I haven't really fleshed out a strong read, and are basically in my PoE bracket
and Kerset as a scumread ~

-Light

[L and Light]

~Did Torque give any explanation for the reads, specifically about Natirisha and RCE? ~

nope

Feels like hopping on a wagon that they can push through.

You don't think there's enough support for the other people on her list? Not a defense either - I got the same vibes. I'm trying to rationalize the why though.

Hiraki you gave 0 arguments so far and of your 0 leads.

~Except for post 729 apparently, where Hiraki gave reads on p.much everyone~

-Light

During day 1...

~Does that change either your post, his response, or my response?~

-Light

I also don't know what that has to do with anything. This is why I find it hard to nail Kerset as scum and just being weirdly abrasive (which I think I am an expert in!)

rly light? are we now going to argue about "hey he didn't say exactly stalled, he said nothing really fun, you used incorrect phase kerset"

Actually there is a 100% difference here. I'm not invested in the arguments because I think they're shallow. Not that I don't think there are arguments going about, I just didn't believe in any of them. I saw L and L post next so let's see if they get it!

~I believe he said in the same post that it was "not necessary" to improve the game state, and a stalled game state /=/ lack of reads~

I assume he is talking about a lack of logically argued reads, which he had provided, rather than a slow-moving, apathetic game-state.~

-Light

nice

The better point of all of this is why this has anything to do with my alignment which confuses me on the entire point of this conversation other than Kerset trying to be right, which is downright

annoying

~1. ok
2. There might be enough support, but I feel a low-presence person is an easier person to get a wagon rolling on with the least amount of effort, instead of trying to actually make a read, instead focusing on LHF.
3. Why can scum not be "weirdly abrasive"
~

-Light

[L and Light]

Light, why would scum!Kerset want to avoid lynching you who has more thread presence than Natirashu? You seem like a more useful mislynch by that logic, and are consistent with his reads; I don't see his vote switch as opportunistic.

~because its easier and simpler to get done early on in the game~

-Light

[L and Light]

VOTE: L and Light

Because I think Y'shtola is town.

~How does that reasoning justify this vote? Given that Y&T was voting WD?~

-Light

Her last vote was you, but their vote is stuck on Alisae for whatever reason.

I could translate what she's saying if it came to it lul, but I'm missing some context in the game for some of it. The read up should be enlightening.

~Yeah I forgot that you most likely didn't know about Y&T being unable to swap their votes as part of their role, but also the fact that I had literally been asking for Y&T to change their vote to literally anyone just to confirm that they were telling the truth about their role, I do not believe that their vote on my was indicative of a scumread, unless Y&T stated other-wise?~

-Light

[L and Light]

My townpool is in Hectic, Ali, Natirasha and RCE. I need more.

Vote: L and Light

Let's begin here today.

~Why is Ali in your strong town core and what are your thoughts on Y&T

if you are voting in the PoE why did you specifically choose to vote me?~

-Light

[L and Light]

This is for future days but if Natirasha flips scum at any point Alisae is the next lynch and kerset is soft town.

I guess that last part is pending L&L's alignment.

VOTE: L and Light

~Do you have an actual read on me or is this just PoE?~

-Light

[L and Light]

~If I claim my actual role then my ability essentially becomes useless, so I won't claim my exact ability, but I will claim that I have a conditional form of KP, which I've softed multiple times over the course of this day-phase~

-Light

[L and Light]

Gobble was maybe a good kill, too, actually. I might have been somewhat pocketed there, and if I wasn't I'd probably see him as scummy. I could definitely see him also being a vig kill because of that scummy AF hammer.

~but if we are to believe that Y&T shot torque, and that Y&T is not mafia, either town vigi or 3p killer, then Gobble had to have been a mafia kill, which is ??? in my opinion, given, as you said, the hammer, and lack of like, widely being townread.

I think Torque was much townier than Gobble, so im annoyed the Torque would be the town/3p kill, with Gobble being the ?mafia? kill. ~

-Light

What are the odds we have two vigs and mad was roleblocked? Should I even say much more about this?

I'll wait for you to respond before posting more.

~This game is 13p correct? I highly doubt that there would be a possibility of 3,

or even 4 KPN on the first night

. So I have to believe that at least one of the kills is a mafia kill.~

-Light

What? It's not going to resolve outside of a lynch?

Yeah but if there are now more kills at night you have to either suggest that there's multiple non-scum killing roles in the game or that they are lying, ie if they're an sk they now have to win by outlasting everyone lest they get autolynched. It's downright stupid play to claim that shot lol.

~And what if there are

multiple non-scum killing roles

?~

-Light

[RCEnigma]

This game is gonna go downhill quick. Well, could anyway.

VOTE: Kerset if kerset flips town flip Natirasha or Alisae. I'm not interested in anything outside of this pool.

[RCEnigma]

Wait. Put a pin in that pool.

[RCEnigma]

2. There might be enough support, but I feel a low-presence person is an easier person to get a wagon rolling on with the least amount of effort, instead of trying to actually make a read, instead focusing on LHF.

It has been surprisingly hard to wagon low presence slots. Or get any meaningful wagon rolling for what it's worth.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Damn RCE, how many times are you going to switch your vote.

[NorwegianboyEE]

What is your reason for voting any of them RCE? Just info lynching or?

[NorwegianboyEE]

It has been surprisingly hard to wagon low presence slots. Or get any meaningful wagon rolling for what it's worth.

These two wishes don't seem interchangeable.

[RCEnigma]

What is your reason for voting any of them RCE? Just info lynching or?

The chemist wagon mostly. With the recent L&L development there is either scum in {Natirasha, kerset, Hiraki} OR the exact team is {WD, Norwegian, gif} with Y&T as a swing slot

The first subset is nonvoters and has a higher probability of containing scum than all 3 scum being chemist voters.

The Natirasha wagon was great imo since it was forcing hard reads from kerset/L&L but there's no traction. That makes it my preferred lynch even more. Also Natirasha's response of I'm town I don't have to play just trust me, makes me want that lynch more cuz that's garbage.

But whatever Slims the Poe. I'll settle for other slots I think could be scum.

[RCEnigma]

Err I didn't explain I'm explicitly townreading Hiraki and I've removed them from my pool tentatively.

The alternate subset of on wagon voters has Norwegian that I think is probably town as explained so like any of Nati/kerset. I threw in Alisae because of their hard defense of Natirasha and I'm finding it weird.

That's not a public read, that's based on PT discussion. But I gave my reasoning for the Poe when I thought I was getting modkilled so Alisae could bring up leashing the vig claim and narrowing the nonvoters but didn't object to Natirasha being in the pool until I voted there.

[RCEnigma]

Damn RCE, how many times are you going to switch your vote.

As many times as I need to. L&L isn't a viable wagon today.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Alright i see what you're thinking. Natirasha seems like the best wagon overall. And i didn't get Alisae's defense of the slot either.
VOTE: Natirasha
There's your traction.

[RCEnigma]

Bless your heart VOTE: Natirasha

[NorwegianboyEE]

Bless your heart

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