Hot Potato Mafia - Game Over

[PJosarian2]

Potato Tracking Count #4

All discussion goes quiet for a minute, and people notice a disturbing ticking sound.

tick tick tick tick

Everyone freezes. The ticking seems to be getting louder, and it seems to be coming from Porochaz.

tick tick tick tick....BUZZZZ!!!

"Hey" says Porochaz "Isn't the alarm I have set on my new cell phone cool? It first makes this loud ticking sound, like like a real alarm clock, and...what? Why is everyone staring at me?"

Potato Tracking Count:

• Porochaz is in possession of a Russet Potato
  
• Armlx is in possession of a Sweet Potato
  
• JohnWWells is in possession of a Baked Yellow Potato

The two people who have not posted since the confirmation stage (JohnWWells and Luigi Gangsta) are both being prodded.

Edit: Heh, that's the funny thing about having two people in one modding account; you can simulpost with yourself.

[kuribo]

I want the baked yellow potato, I'm hungry.

[Skruffs]

Nice idea, but theres no way im wasting my potato on a guy who needs replacement!

BM

This is the problem, right here. What if the people with potatos don't like the wagon? What do we do?

We'll see, BM. It's not my final vote by a long shot. Maybe you'll like my next vote better.

in case u hadnt noticed, John already has a potato. He's a timebomb already.

What i suggest is we all wait for Armlx to throw the potato back at someone, and whoever recieves it, throws it back to him. Such a plan makes for a great reaction test!

BM

Why do you want Armlx to toss his potato and not one of the other two players?

Because presumably, Armlx won't want to keep a potato that could kill him for very long. Hence he will discard it at some point, at which time, we pelt it back at him. It's the school of hard knocks.

BM

What about the other two?
It is possible (But unlikely) that JohnWells hasn't posted because he's afraid that talking while holding hte potato will blow him up.

[Battle Mage]

Nice idea, but theres no way im wasting my potato on a guy who needs replacement!

BM

This is the problem, right here. What if the people with potatos don't like the wagon? What do we do?

We'll see, BM. It's not my final vote by a long shot. Maybe you'll like my next vote better.

in case u hadnt noticed, John already has a potato. He's a timebomb already.

What i suggest is we all wait for Armlx to throw the potato back at someone, and whoever recieves it, throws it back to him. Such a plan makes for a great reaction test!

BM

Why do you want Armlx to toss his potato and not one of the other two players?

Because presumably, Armlx won't want to keep a potato that could kill him for very long. Hence he will discard it at some point, at which time, we pelt it back at him. It's the school of hard knocks.

BM

What about the other two?
It is possible (But unlikely) that JohnWells hasn't posted because he's afraid that talking while holding hte potato will blow him up.

I very highly doubt that. Let's face it, if talking blows him up, he's screwed, because he has to talk in order to give it to someone else. Not buying it.

BM

[armlx]

Wait a sec. I deserve to be voted off a mysterious island because i didnt do exactly what you said? rofl.

You didn't do what I said that a large number of people have agreed is the correct play.

[Battle Mage]

Wait a sec. I deserve to be voted off a mysterious island because i didnt do exactly what you said? rofl.

You didn't do what I said that a large number of people have agreed is the correct play.

rofl! A large number!?

I count....3.
And 2 against. That's barely a majority.

Confirm Vote: Armlx

There's stretching the truth, and there's blatant lying...

BM

[Porochaz]

I have an exploding potato
I need to throw it to and fro
But I want to keep my potato
So I will not thro(w)

You see everyone has a plan
Votes are given, Im not a fan
As with the bomb here I stan(d)
I do not want to be a flan

I think voting is foiled
My pants are soiled
I need new trousers, these are spoiled
Im throwing this before I get boiled.

But who shall I pass
Its my choice alone and not a mass
But for now Im letting you decide
24 hours or I save my hide

[Battle Mage]

I have an exploding potato
I need to throw it to and fro
But I want to keep my potato
So I will not thro(w)

You see everyone has a plan
Votes are given, Im not a fan
As with the bomb here I stan(d)
I do not want to be a flan

I think voting is foiled

My pants are soiled

ROFL
I need new trousers, these are spoiled
Im throwing this before I get boiled.

But who shall I pass
Its my choice alone and not a mass
But for now Im letting you decide
24 hours or I save my hide

You could throw it at Armlx or John, to see if having 2 potatoes means instant death?

BM

[Crazy]

The only problem that I can see with Armlx's plan is that the potatoes will stay in the hands of pro-town players while we're deciding whom to potato-bomb. If some of these potatoes are triggered by time, and no doubt some are, then that's not good.

I say, whomever has a potato passes it to a person they find scummy. Once we get a majority via Armlx's plan, then we can continually pass it to those select two.

It also gives a more concrete voting record for us.

[Battle Mage]

The only problem that I can see with Armlx's plan is that the potatoes will stay in the hands of pro-town players while we're deciding whom to potato-bomb. If some of these potatoes are triggered by time, and no doubt some are, then that's not good.

I say, whomever has a potato passes it to a person they find scummy. Once we get a majority via Armlx's plan, then we can continually pass it to those select two.

It also gives a more concrete voting record for us.

Yeh, or we just forget Armlx's plan completely, and just give the potato to someone we want dead. If there is a good enough case to kill someone, im sure we'll end up passing it to them anyway. But, im not going to commit anyone to passing to someone who they dont feel is scummy, just because Armlx said so.

BM

[Skruffs]

Do you think Armlx should throw to Porochaz, BM?
You avoided my question: Why aren't you interested in the other two throwing their potatoes as much as you are getting Armlx blown up?

[Crazy]

Yeh, or we just forget Armlx's plan completely, and just give the potato to someone we want dead. If there is a good enough case to kill someone, im sure we'll end up passing it to them anyway. But, im not going to commit anyone to passing to someone who they dont feel is scummy, just because Armlx said so. Rolling Eyes

Armlx isn't our king. The decision would be made by the whole town... and going against the majority is not a good idea unless you feel very strongly about it.

[Battle Mage]

Do you think Armlx should throw to Porochaz, BM?
You avoided my question: Why aren't you interested in the other two throwing their potatoes as much as you are getting Armlx blown up?

I think you are missing some very obvious points here. Firstly, John is NOT HERE. He won't be throwing his potato until he shows up or gets replaced now, will he? Secondly, I highly doubt Porochaz will listen to anything i have to say.

Now, a few questions for you:

1. Why do you think that it is solely my job to determine who throws potatoes where?
2. Why are you pretending to scumhunt when the majority of us are clearly still in the 'random' stage.

I wouldnt mind Armlx throwing at Porochaz. It would serve the same end as my suggestion, just with a higher risk, as i'm getting townie vibes from Porochaz atm. And Armlx? hmm, not so much.

BM

[Battle Mage]

Yeh, or we just forget Armlx's plan completely, and just give the potato to someone we want dead. If there is a good enough case to kill someone, im sure we'll end up passing it to them anyway. But, im not going to commit anyone to passing to someone who they dont feel is scummy, just because Armlx said so. Rolling Eyes

Armlx isn't our king. The decision would be made by the whole town... and going against the majority is not a good idea unless you feel very strongly about it.

^THIS is exactly the kind of mentality i am trying to avoid. Going against the majority should not be deemed scummy, because in practice, a majority is just as likely to be fuelled by scum as it is by town. We're all individuals, and we can all make our own decisions. When you use an authoratarian system, you need a method of punishing dissenters. In this case, that means killing everyone who has an opinion that goes against the consensus. It might happen in practice anyway! But for crying out loud, let's not make it official before we even start!!!!

BM

[Porochaz]

Do you think Armlx should throw to Porochaz, BM?
You avoided my question: Why aren't you interested in the other two throwing their potatoes as much as you are getting Armlx blown up?

Secondly, I highly doubt Porochaz will listen to anything i have to say.

Paul will listen to anyone. As long as there post doesnt kill me with its stupid length.

[DrippingGoofball]

The only problem that I can see with Armlx's plan is that the potatoes will stay in the hands of pro-town players[...]

'Scuse me? How do you KNOW with such certainty who is pro-town?

[Crazy]

The only problem that I can see with Armlx's plan is that the potatoes will stay in the hands of pro-town players[...]

'Scuse me? How do you KNOW with such certainty who is pro-town?

Nah, I don't mean that. I'm just saying that it's not good for anybody to keep holding on to their potato just because a consensus hasn't arrived yet. After all, everyone in this game knows that

they

are pro-town, so why would they want to keep the potato to themselves instead of passing it?

[M4yhem]

You have a point, Crazy. I'm certainly not going to be holding on to any potatos thrown at me for very long.

BM- I understand you don't want to play this exactly like a normal game but surely you agree we need some kind of system to try to kill guilty people, otherwise this will just be a random deathfest.

I think it might be a bad idea to give more than one potato to people; it concentrates too much power in one person's hands.

[Korts]

I agree. It's probably best if the potatoes are kept constantly moving until we find a likely target for "lynch".

[Skruffs]

Do you think Armlx should throw to Porochaz, BM?
You avoided my question: Why aren't you interested in the other two throwing their potatoes as much as you are getting Armlx blown up?

I think you are missing some very obvious points here. Firstly, John is NOT HERE. He won't be throwing his potato until he shows up or gets replaced now, will he? Secondly, I highly doubt Porochaz will listen to anything i have to say.

Completely avoided the question.

Do you think Armlx should throw to Porochaz?

Now, a few questions for you:

1. Why do you think that it is solely my job to determine who throws potatoes where?

What gives you the impression that I think that?

2. Why are you pretending to scumhunt when the majority of us are clearly still in the 'random' stage.

I rarely see townies complain about a random stage being over. Why are you?
This is pretty defensive for a simple question that you seem to be backtracking pretty hard to avoid answering. If this is the random stage, then you trying to direct Armlx is also random, which means there's no reason for you not to try to direct potatos to and from Porochaz, right?

I wouldnt mind Armlx throwing at Porochaz. It would serve the same end as my suggestion, just with a higher risk, as i'm getting townie vibes from Porochaz atm. And Armlx? hmm, not so much.

BM

How can you be?
We're in the random stage, you can't possibly be scum hunting yet, can you?

I agree. It's probably best if the potatoes are kept constantly moving until we find a likely target for "lynch".

You are advocating a random lynch if the bombs are triggured on 'number of tosses'.

My guess is that one potato is based on number of tosses, one is based on length of time held, either by one person or from the beginning of the day, and a third is based on number of posts that have been posted, either since it's been last tossed or since the beginning of the day.

Advocating tossing potatos increases the chance of 2 of the 3 likely triggers going off, and so should be minimized.

Here:

Produces a Mister Potato Head (Empty) and tosses it to M4yhem

That is not a "Real" potato, it's not going to blow up. If you want to practice throwing them around, practice with that.

*Gives each player a similar potato head*

I got them on overstock.com.

[q21]

I personally oppose a voting system because we have no control over the potatoes. We don't know how, when or why they will blow up and as such we cannot ensure that the person the majority wants dead is the person who is actually killed. Therefore the majority is useless. There is still value in voicing suspicions and pointing out scummy behaviour, but if someone doesn't agree with you, your "vote" isn't going to make one tiny bit of difference.

I think that the free flow of Potatoes is the best method of exposing people's motivations and as such I ask those simply sitting on a Potato (Laying Potatos?) why they are doing so?... except John, we know why he's still got his Potato...

[Riceballtail]

Boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a stew.

TATERS!

[Korts]

Skruffs, your speculations assume that all three potatoes are rigged to go off.

Also, how is letting the potatoes stay put any less random a "lynch" than having the potatoes move around?

[M4yhem]

Bounce mr. potatohead off scruff's face

It's possible one potato will go off after a certain number of passes. However, at this point any speculation about how potatoes work is just that: speculation. As I said before, we won't know until we experiment. And we should experiment because we can't control the game environment until we understand it. For that reason, I think the potatoes should keep moving.

I also think we should stick with the voting system. Otherwise, it seems like the people who don't have potatoes will get bored pretty fast. We need some way to stay involved in the game process.

C'mon, Porochaz, share the wealth!

[DrippingGoofball]

These potatoes are supposed to be HOT. If you keep them too long, your hands will be nothing but gross lumps of 3rd degree burns welded onto potato peels.