Mini 637: Xyl's Smalltown Plus - Game Over

[Xylthixlm]

Vote Count

IcemanE - 4 (cerebus3, charter, Crazy, ZombieSlayer54)
armlx - 1 (nhat)
wolframnhart - 1 (Empking)
cerebus3 - 1 (Alabaska J)
Crazy - 1 (icemanE)
empking - 1 (hasdgfas)

Not voting: armlx, pwnz, wolframnhart

With 12 alive, it will take 7 to lynch. The deadline for day 1 is Saturday, August 15 at 7:00 PM Pacific.

[Empking]

He's trying to mislead the town. Apart from lynch or lose its a scum tell to try and mislead the town.

Is their a certain part you disagree with?

[armlx]

Apart from lynch or lose its a scum tell to try and mislead the town.

What are you talking about.....

[ZombieSlayer54]

Apart from lynch or lose its a scum tell to try and mislead the town.

What are you talking about.....

If you find out, tell me.

I seriously see in no way how Empking is trying to "mislead the town".

[Empking]

Apart from lynch or lose its a scum tell to try and mislead the town.

What are you talking about.....

When in lynch or lose its (more) OK to misleed the town if you're town. In my opinion you shouldn't try to misleed the town any where else if you're town.

[armlx]

When in lynch or lose its (more) OK to misleed the town if you're town.

This is pretty wrong. See ABR's attempts to claim cop in Lylo as townie and just say "these people are scum"

[Empking]

I'd say if its lynch or lose, you should say anything to make sure you're not lynched.

[ZombieSlayer54]

Empking:

HOW IS HE MISLEADING THE TOWN?!

[armlx]

I'd say if its lynch or lose, you should say anything to make sure you're not lynched.

This is scum logic.

[Empking]

Vote: wolframnhart

I really don't like the idea of a dayvig who might be scum.

On the other hand, I do quite like the "kill a lot on day 1" plan though six deaths on day 1 would be a bit too much, four seems a bit much.

I think the "kill a good role so I can take it" was more of a moment of idiocy rather than a scum tell but I'm not sure if it was a town moment or scum moment.

So you would vote me, out of the other dayvigs? Kinda random there since there are

worse potential killers.

Why didn't you ask me that too begin with.

The poisoner is unblockable, can't be protected against and the kill the daykiller. I can't see how their are worse potential killers.

[pwnz]

icemanE now has 4 votes out of the required 7 to lynch. Just in case of an accident, we shouldn't place any more votes on him until he has had a chance to respond to all of the pending accusations. There is no sense in putting any more pressure on a player who is already at risk, and we definately dont need to be rushing anything while we still have so much time left.

[armlx]

I endorse a SB kill of icemanE (consider this as a vote without voting).

[charter]

icemanE now has 4 votes out of the required 7 to lynch. Just in case of an accident, we shouldn't place any more votes on him until he has had a chance to respond to all of the pending accusations. There is no sense in putting any more pressure on a player who is already at risk, and we definately dont need to be rushing anything while we still have so much time left.

If I was going to stick out my neck to defend him, I'd use the defense of "We don't know who else we want to kill today. Don't cut today short with a lynch of iceman before we've decided that."...

[charter]

I guess my inference might not be clear in my last post. Pwnz, why do you defend iceman?

[Crazy]

I endorse a SB kill of icemanE (consider this as a vote without voting).

Why SB? Can't we poison him?

[armlx]

I endorse a SB kill of icemanE (consider this as a vote without voting).

Why SB? Can't we poison him?

If we poison him, we can't SB someone else as he will just take the SB and use it on somoene else if he is scum.

[charter]

I endorse a SB kill of icemanE (consider this as a vote without voting).

Why SB? Can't we poison him?

If we poison him, we can't SB someone else as he will just take the SB and use it on somoene else if he is scum.

This doesn't make sense. If he is scum and gets a SB, he will DEFINATELY SB a townie (and one of the more useful ones I'd bet).

[Xylthixlm]

Role interaction clarification:

If the Bus Driver switches the Tracker's target, the Tracker silently gets info on the wrong person. If the Tracker's choice targets someone who was swapped, the Tracker learns the intended target, not the actual target.

The Night Watchman is totally unaffected by the Bus Driver. He always learns who picked the same target he did.

[armlx]

This doesn't make sense. If he is scum and gets a SB, he will DEFINATELY SB a townie (and one of the more useful ones I'd bet).

Thats what I'm saying. If icemanE is poisoned he will live to the end of the day, effectively preventing us from using the SB as an extra lynch.

[cerebus3]

This doesn't make sense. If he is scum and gets a SB, he will DEFINATELY SB a townie (and one of the more useful ones I'd bet).

Thats exactly what armlx was getting at. If he is poisoned, then if we try to SB someone else, he will become a SB and just kill a townie as his death is inevitable. This is why if we are going to kill him and someone else with the SB and the dayvig today, the SB should hit Ice, and the vig should poison the other guy.

This is all assuming we SB today. Are we going to SB today? We never seemed to reach a consensus on that.

[cerebus3]

And that folks is why you refresh your page before you post.

[Alabaska J]

Warning: Empking always makes odd posts like that even when he is town. I'll post a link to the game I played with him where he was town and acted a bit like this if I can find it.

Nominate icemanE for The One Who Is SB'd

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[Crazy]

Why not just poison him today and I use my SB tomorrow? A Day 2 extra lynch will be much more useful than a Day 1 extra lynch.

[Alabaska J]

Why not just poison him today and I use my SB tomorrow? A Day 2 extra lynch will be much more useful than a Day 1 extra lynch.

Better info for the lynch today is a plus.

[cerebus3]

And you might be Nk'd