armlx wrote:
1: Calls Gimbo out for over reaction, which is not a good thing (over reaction != scum tell), but it was the random stage so w/e.
2: Kinda contradictory, argues against random voting when he did. Meh.
3: Cites fl as misguided townie.
4: He starts spouting off you could be scum arguments against fl's actions, but he thinks fl is town? Doesn't add up.
No, incorrect, I gave alternatives.
5: This is a good one. Refuses to really vote (BAD)
I did not refuse to vote. Its better if you were to post the actual conversation instead of one of my posts.
Do you get the scent of townie blood up for a D1 lynch???
This was quoted by another player as being a good post...
Nice attack here on CF Riot, not sure what this falls under but its not good.....
The more conversation on D1 the better for town, theres no need to rush through a lynch CFR....
Fence sit???? I was the only active player that was scumhunting, I was far from fence sitting.
Misrep. of CF's point that you should do something rather then fence sit.
6: OMGUS's CF Riot.
8: Complete 180 on fl. Odd considering fl's behavior falls under his description of fl as town (misguided townie)
This is explained in numerous posts throughout the thread since.
9:
You are NOT acting townish, a confirmed townie nor represent a solid case, so I hope you can see where Im going with this atm....
Direct contradiction.
Plainly, you are the scummiest player right now, your posts have been very sketchy, and you'll have me believe that "your plan" was what it was....
How is this a contradiction, please explain....
Another.
9: Valid point about fl being OMGUSy.
10:
Then point to the evidence, rather than saying "stop attacking me"....
This is kinda odd, as I don't think this is what fl was doing at all.
What was FL doing then?
11:
You say in your last post (quoted at the top of this post) that Bogre & Corinthian are attacking you, yet in your synopsis post above, you havent given either a special one liner, like the rest, yet you seem to be saying that they are attacking you more than Killa!!
I find that very strange indeed....
And for the Killa mention, you have him at the top of your list on the last page, yet your now saying he isn't attacking you any more???
This is pretty wrong. Just because someone is attacking you doesn't mean you have a read on them, and her reasons to attack K7 were outside of the current attacks.
I think this logic was lost by armlx, after I attacked him..!!! As he is contradicting himself by calling me scum, after I attacked him.
12:
So basically you think that FL1 is ok because she reckons your town??
And that I might be scum beacuse she thinks so also??
Dont be so naive....
Misrep. The quote even said she wasn't necessarily town, and agreeing with someone's case isn't bad.
The qoute this point came from read "He even called me town throughout", I haven't gone back to quote it word for word, but this accurate.
So, FL using the word twist may seem clever, but that is not the case when I pointed to the Alternative of her ploy.... Which was her being scum trying to frame an over aggressive townie....
It is not lying, nor twisting words, as FL has so eloquently put it, it is however a possibilty that was 50:50 at the time of my posting it, was it not???
That ratio, to me, is fairly lopsided at her being scum now, after what has been posted by her since then....
The twist thing is valid, except I'm not sure that was what fl was trying to say you were twisting.
Again, what do you think FL was getting act??? Dont just say it isn't, and not use reasoning with it.
This is the 2nd instance of this in your PBPA
Also, bringing false probabilities into the discussion isn't good. 50/50 is false for town/scum. Just because there are 2 options does not mean they are equal. The chance of fl being scum laying a trap was fairly large, but 50/50.... not so much.
False probabiliteis???? I dont think so. Are you saying that the alternative I brought to the table is a false probability?
If so, why???
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May I ask why you have placed your vote on me, rather than leaving it where you believe scum to be???
And Ive checked back through K7's recent posts, and I dont see him throwing votes around, his last few posts were aimed at you, like most other players.
It helps to quote posts....
Except fl just said she felt you were more scummy.... Also deflection to K7.
Its easy to pick posts that you can in turn "twist" armlx.
This post replied to several.
And this post of yours just sucks.
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You saying that some of your attackers are not scum is full of WIFOM....
Again, there are alternatives to that, like them being fellow scum, them being town and leaving a breadcrumb for their lynch..
Do you follow now???
Attacking someone for stating opinions = no.
Again, its good to point out alternatives... I dont believe anything anyone says unless Im convinced they are town.
At this point, youve attacked me for stating alternatives... twice.
And they were valid ones.
If you think otherwise, your gonna need more than your "pop-in, Im here" posts....
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Firestarter wrote:
forbiddanlight wrote:
I phrased that badly. He's no longer actively attacking me, though he was attacking me, hence why I said that. To be honest, he seems to just throw in the occasional "Yeah, you look scummy" and doesn't even try to back it up as much as everyone else has been backing their votes. I still think he's pretty much definite scum, even though that's possibly my own falling to self fulfilling prophecy. Really, thinking on it...I actually feel evidentially better about a unvote, vote Firestarter than I do about Killa. I feel emotionally that Killa is scum though, as well as somewhat evidentially with the fact he hasn't seemed to back himself up much, if at all. So, that's where I stand.
My choice of wording was wrong, you did not say vote....
But you did say he throws in the occasional "yeah" here & there...
Please, quote them for me, full posts...
But you have contradicted yourself something fierce in that post, first you say your definite that Killa is scum, then you move your vote to me...
Are you also definite about me being scum?
forbiddanlight wrote:
And about my vote, both of you are likely scum in my eyes, it's just that I honestly feel the evidence supports voting you better than the evidence supports killa.
Firestarter wrote:
May I ask why you have placed your vote on me, rather than leaving it where you believe scum to be???
I would very much like a concise post from you based on your recent change of votes from Killa to me....
And I wont settle for this again....
forbiddanlight wrote:
I actually feel evidentially better about a unvote, vote Firestarter than I do about Killa. I feel emotionally that Killa is scum though, as well as somewhat evidentially with the fact he hasn't seemed to back himself up much, if at all. So, that's where I stand.
That's a pretty menial attack here.
What exactly am I to respond to here?
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Firestarter wrote:Yeah, Ive given off scuminess by twisting your words..... ok...
See my last few posts if you need clarification as to what I actually was doing......
Giving alternatives.
The fact you have reacted so badly, imo, is the reason I think of you as scum.
BTW, lets not get personal here, Im pretty sure your no idiot, and I can assure you that I aint an idiot either....
Now, am I gonna get a concise post from you or not?
Its the 2nd time you have evaded my request...
He wants a concise post with all the evidence? Also, notice the change back to aggressor.
2 obvious thoughts, whats your point???
In summary, Firestarter spends this whole portion alternating between attacks on fl's opinions, saying she has given none, then buddying back up to divert suspicion from himself.
No, Incorrect, I attacked for responses, I got responses and was satiated with them.
17: This is an odd one. He just backs off fl for activity reasons and spreads fear of a mislynch. I don't know what to think of this post.
Yes, correct, I did fear for a mislynch... your point?
18: This is a good post, just one that feels like he should have made it several posts earlier before he started attacking fl.
19: Pretty waffling stance on fl.
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20: More waffling, and a semantic jab at fl's post.
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21: Valid post, barring knowledge of k7 and gimbo's metas. k7 and gimbo were doing dumb things, but they always do.
*Token addition in a PBPA of a good point....
22: Stated town vibes contradicts his FOS, I really think Firestarter saw the writing on the wall and just abandoned ship to distance himself from the lynch.
Didn't the lynchee do exactly the same thing afterwards...
i.e., FOS me... whats your take on this?
23-25: valid posts.
26: Just straight up invalidates Gimbo's point with no proof. I am noticing this trend in his responses to me as well.
Please elaborate... post quote, etc, etc...
27-29: False logic on the replacement issue (if he was town, he wouldn't have had to have been replaced is not true in any way shape or form)
False logic???
Im starting to see a pattern develop myself... You claiming there is false logic attached to my posts, yet all you say is.. "False logic"....
I made an observation, went and found the actual post that Gimbo made, and made my thoughts clear.
31-32: Same will post later thing he is attacking me for.
33: Attacks me for not posting much, and not removing my vote from fl. The later is exactly the kind of thing I was expecting him to set up by his late unvote and sorta trying to stall the wagon.
So, after initially saying your interest in this game waned, you say that you were waiting for a slip-up somewhere from someone??
Reeks of scum....
