Open 83 - Polygamist Mafia (Game over!) before 628

[Chelseafan]

It would be very helpful if each pair of lovers could identify one other pair they feel is confident of being town.

Well, I can't speak for Chenhsi( and he can't speak fro himself either apparently ), but Firestarter looks quite town to me.

[eldarad]

Vote Count

Chelseafan (1) -

Harvey Pew

forbiddanlight (1) -

Adel

Not voting (8) -

Firestarter, chenhsi, SpyreX, Harvey Pew, ZeekLTK, Adel, KNIGHT42, forbiddanlight, Chelseafan, Nameless, forbiddanlight, chenhsi

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch

Prodding KNIGHT42 and Nameless.

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My

Vote

is on

CF/Chenhsi

at this point.

In line with UK electoral law, I will only register votes where there is a clear and unambigous indication of voter intent. You only have one vote. If I cannot tell who you wish to vote for I will not register your vote.

[Adel]

thanks for sending out prods.

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Gimbo has been banned (ruining a newbie game).

who here is shocked by Gimbo getting banned for ruining a game?

[Adel]

forbiddanlight -> clears -> Spyrex
Chelseafan -> clears -> Firestarter

any others?

I assure you, if I can get 100% participation the town stands a very good chance of winning, better than 60%.

[chenhsi]

who here is shocked by Gimbo getting banned for ruining a game?

Was that sarcasm? A rhetorical question?

And I have no idea what your "clears" graph meant.

[Adel]

they are just a list of the people who read the last page and posted an answer to:

It would be very helpful if each pair of lovers could identify one other pair they feel is confident of being town.

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chenhsi, your lack of participation is really starting to annoy me. Frankly I would rather play with Gimbo than you right now since he at least bothered to read the thread and post some content.

If you just want to read mafia games why do you bother joining?

[ZeekLTK]

I am NOT confident that anyone is town.

I guess I would have my lowest ranking suspect is Firestarter just because all suspicions I have of him basically stem from thinking he is connected to Adel/SpyreX, who have done a few things that have made me raise an eyebrow (like I said, keep bringing up that "mafia will push for a mass-claim" - well, Gimbo was the main person pushing for it and he turned out to be town...)

However, forbidden is by far the scummiest and Chelsea is still pretty scummy from Day 1 (with chenshi now lurking) so...

[ZeekLTK]

The only reason I'm not voting forbidden atm is because I'm still leery of Adel/SpyreX (and therefore Fire/Nameless)...

[Adel]

forbiddanlight -> clears -> Spyrex
Chelseafan -> clears -> Firestarter
ZeekLTK -> clears -> Firestarter

group participation is needed for this to work. I thought about it for a while, and I think it will work better if both members of each pair made a submission.

[forbiddanlight]

Like I said, I'm probably gonna need a divorce, and this widow will have to remarry . Knight kinda bailed out.

[Adel]

3. In general, are you a new player or an experienced player? I'm considered mid tier at most of my home forums. Probably very low tier here.

4. When did you read the previous run of the last Polygamist Mafia? I didn't. I probably SHOULD have, but I basically went into this game blind. Which partially explains the subduedness because I have no idea what to do except try to hunt scum.

was spies 5 your first time as scum?

[SpyreX]

Hey, guess what! That's my newbie game that done got ruined.

I'll chime in tomorrow (late). I've got too much paranoia going on right now and I'm exhausted from just getting home from work meetings. All in all, I could see cases for most anyone being scum but if, right now, I had to say who I thought was town...probably Zeek

[Nameless]

Ack, sorry about the lack of posting. An IRL issue was preventing me from posting.

(And by "preventing", I mean "distracting".)

(... aaand by "issue" I mean "purchase of Wii".)

ANYWAY. >_>

I wouldn't use the word 'confident', but at the moment I'm thinking SpyreX / Adel are probably town. There have a been a few small things I've disagreed with or thought odd, but overall their actions and ideas have been to the benefit of the town.

That said, FOS: Harvey Pew, Adel and

especially

forbiddanlight for their first D2 votes. HP's "punt" is such an obviously bad idea it hurts, I don't even know why Adel thought jumping on what be a good idea, and forbid's sudden change of mind (hoping to quicklynch?) and poor reasoning/defence (and if the mafia start voting while you're asleep?) are IMHO highly suspect. Also, Post 363. Just ... 363.

I posted earlier why lynching Chelseafan D1 was a flawed plan, but rereading CF's posts I don't really like that CF agreed (not to the point of self voting, but certainly didn't object) to the plan - As town, allowing somebody you KNOW to be a townie to be lynched (especially in this setup) only to mostly confirm somebody else town is such an inherently poor action that I would expect some resistance. (From eg. Adel's POV this isn't the case, obviously, as CF may well be scum.) Given that it was fairly likely at the time Gimbo would be lynched, I'm kind of wondering if CF reacted more casually to the plan - knowing it was unlikely to eventuate - to gain "townie points" for D2.

I personally don't see anything wrong with Adel's hammer. Everyone else had the chance of unvote if they didn't agree, and it's not like it came unexpectedly. I don't think further discussion would have gained us much more, and quite frankly the only person I blame is Gimbo.

If there weren't the risk of a quicklynch, I'd be voting for either Chenhsi or forbiddenlight, probably whichever had a bandwagon on them (but not to a lynch yet, obviously).

Also due to the fact that everyone is paranoid of being in LyLo at this situation, I would not discount mafia voting for each other early on knowing that it won't lead to a lynch.

I strongly agree with this statement, for the exact same reasons I found the plan to lynch Chelseafan flawed yesterday. If anything, the mafia would be more inclined to bus in this setup if they believe they can get away with it because people keep assuming they won't.

[Adel]

forbiddanlight -> clears -> Spyrex
Chelseafan -> clears -> Firestarter
ZeekLTK -> clears -> Firestarter
Nameless -> clears -> Spyrex

who else wants to cooperate?

[Firestarter]

There have a been a few small things I've disagreed with or thought odd, but overall their actions and ideas have been to the benefit of the town.

This statement I agree with.

Spyrex/Adel would be my choice.

[Harvey Pew]

Well, if you want, Adel... I am most certain that Spyrex is town.

[Chelseafan]

Gimbo has been banned (ruining a newbie game).

who here is shocked by Gimbo getting banned for ruining a game?

Bit surprised it didn't happen sooner

ALso chenhsi can you please post something more than 1 line, it's pretty frustrating trying to play the game with you.
If you had been reading the thread, Adel's clear graph would have made sense I think.

[forbiddanlight]

was spies 5 your first time as scum?

Actually, yes. And then the next game I played at DDRFreak I was scum...then the game I replaced into at Bemanistyle. It was rather ridiculous . May I ask why this line of questioning is relevant?

That said, FOS: Harvey Pew, Adel and especially forbiddanlight for their first D2 votes. HP's "punt" is such an obviously bad idea it hurts, I don't even know why Adel thought jumping on what be a good idea, and forbid's sudden change of mind (hoping to quicklynch?) and poor reasoning/defence (and if the mafia start voting while you're asleep?) are IMHO highly suspect. Also, Post 363. Just ... 363.

That's doubtful. I'm online far too much. My sleep range is so small that the mafia would have a hard time getting all four of them online without sacrificing some rest themselves. I was confident I could retract if need be.

[Harvey Pew]

Bump.

MeMe is an idiot.

[KNIGHT42]

yeah go ahead and replace me, i don't have time

looking for a replacement now - mod

[eldarad]

Shy Guy replaces KNIGHT42, effective immediately. Thanks for replacing in!

[forbiddanlight]

Alright love, so, after your initial facepalm at me and Knight's combined play, do you have any good ideas of how we might be able to pull a town win out of this?

[Shy Guy]

Hello dear, and other fellow players. I was intrigued by this setup, and skimmed the game a bit near the beginning. I recall that mass claim eventually happened, and yes, I am the lover of forbiddanlight.

I'll be reading the game right now, and at the end of the re-read I will post my thoughts. I should be able to finish in about an hour, or less; we shall see if this happens or if I get tired and go to bed halfway through.

I am excited about the prospect of helping guide this game towards victory at lynch or lose .

[Adel]

'sup shy guy. we are in endgame. Once you have read through, please tell me which players is the most likely to be town.

[forbiddanlight]

Hiya Adel, wondering if you are around. Could you please answer this for me:

Actually, yes. And then the next game I played at DDRFreak I was scum...then the game I replaced into at Bemanistyle. It was rather ridiculous Razz. May I ask why this line of questioning is relevant?

k thx.