Mini 611 - Troy, Meet Helen (Game Over)
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Vote Count:
Netlava 5 (CF Riot, Lord Gurgi, Battousai, Walnut, camn)
Walnut 4 (charter, Macavenger, Netlava, Tinsley)
charter 1 (Farkshinsoup)
CF Riot 1 (Thesp)
Battousai 1 (ShadowGirl)
Not Voting:
12 alive = 7 to lynch!
Note to the replacements, please unvote before you vote!PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
Nightson: "I'd be more then happy to play with Ether and Mizzy. At the same time."
Muerrto: "Mizzy is my hero and I wanna be like her when I grow younger <3"-
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Farkshinsoup Goon
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Lord Gurgi Mostly Harmless
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Farkshinsoup wrote:unvote
Mod, I think that thesp has a vote on Netlava.He did not unvote so his vote doesn't count.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
Nightson: "I'd be more then happy to play with Ether and Mizzy. At the same time."
Muerrto: "Mizzy is my hero and I wanna be like her when I grow younger <3"-
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Farkshinsoup Goon
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CF Riot Mafia Scum
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So I miss a couple days of computer time and all hell breaks loose. That's nice. But I'm caught up now. 4 pages went by since my last post but a lot of what was said got cleared up between the people in the conversation so this post shouldn't be too long. Things that caught my eye:
Farside asked about my stat in 332, but I've already answered and she's been replaced. If anyone wants to ask again, I suppose I'll answer again.
Netlava misses my point AGAIN in 334. I don't think being tunnel visioned is a scum tell. I never, ever said that. I said I think you are scum because you were pushing my lynch way too hard for the amount evidence you had. I said the only excuse for this if you were town with tunnel vision, but I highly doubt this.
Charter's cases against Walnut have been the first in the game by him to give me a town read. I still don't see him as town yet, because I think his bad outweighs his good and I might be biased since I suspect Walnut too. Still, between him and Mac, I'm almost as sure of my suspicion of Walnut as Netlava now.
Camn, as much as I want Netlava out of here, your vote should be on the person you suspect most, not the person you find easiest to lynch. That's a very scum thing to do as you're basically saying "The case on X is strong enough, I should be able to vote him without looking suspicious."
This made me lol. Question, when you say you "like" Batt do you mean "like as scum" or "like as town"?Thesp wrote:I like Battousai.
Netlava, Tinsley & farside22 are scum.My apologies to the rest of you for ruining this game by discovering the scum already, I'm sure you would have had loads of fun figuring it out for yourselves while they picked you off one by one.
Netlava's claim doesn't change my vote. His reluctance when all he had was "vanilla town" strengthens it in fact.
This is funny really. Walnut is accused of only defending himself and not really scum hunting. So he defends why he is defending himself, and doesn't put any scum hunting in his post.
Charter one thing in 409 is bad. It's okay to be confident in your vote but to tell someone there's no point in defending themselves is wrong. This could be okay for a role based confirmation, like cop investigation or tracking someone etc., but not just because you refuse to change your mind.
QFT. I think we are lynching him now though.Fark 411 wrote:Can't believe we were not going to lynch the guy who suggested lynching a claimed cop.
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Charter's connection to Netlava still seems blatantly obvious. He posts a few recaps of what Netlava did today and says "I don't like this" to a few of them, but ultimately comes up saying he's still town.
I'm not following the suspicion on Battousai. The intentional lurking thing was the worst thing he's done all day, but I said a few pages back that I don't see how he could gain anything from it as scum, especially by admitting he did it. The "it was a random vote" thing still bothers me though. I don't buy that excuse.
Still, no new evidence to change my current LoS.
Confirm Vote: Netlava-
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charter Beware of Dog
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My point was that Walnut was defending himself when I wasn't asking him questions or accusing him. It came out bad.CF Riot wrote:Charter one thing in 409 is bad. It's okay to be confident in your vote but to tell someone there's no point in defending themselves is wrong. This could be okay for a role based confirmation, like cop investigation or tracking someone etc., but not just because you refuse to change your mind.-
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Hmm, may as well respond to CF Riot's post.
Oh right, I pushed your lynch too hard. I guess it's only fair that I get OMGUS slapped to every post I make. And, like I said, pushing your lynch isn't scummy. It's not that difficult to make up tells.CF RIot wrote: I said I think you are scum because you were pushing my lynch way too hard for the amount evidence you had.
@ Camn, you should unvote if you don't actually think I'm scum. It could force the scum to overextend in pushing my lynch.
@ Fark, you managed to find one reason for your vote and you want to hear from Thesp? My scumminess isn't implicit, you know. You should explain yourself too.
No, I'm just making the optimal play for the town. I don't want to roleclaim if Walnut's is going to get lynched. Considering the fact that the scum (eg LG), might actually have thought that I may have been the doctor.CF Riot wrote:Netlava's claim doesn't change my vote. His reluctance when all he had was "vanilla town" strengthens it in fact.
What's the point of this? You're just acting now.CF Riot wrote:Still, no new evidence to change my current LoS.
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Netlava Mafia Scum
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Farkshinsoup Goon
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Come off it, I don't buy the whole "poor me" attitude of this post. There is a very good reason why suggesting the lynch of the cop is a scum tell. Whether you believe his claim or not, you move on to find the other scum, because if he is telling the truth, you don't waste a lynch on him.Netlava wrote:
I was questioning to general tendency to for cop claims to be off-limits for lynches D1. In retrospect, yes that was a bad post, but I guess that's the price for free thinking.Farkshinsoup wrote:Can't believe we were not going to lynch the guy who suggested lynching a claimed cop.
You have every right to be a "free thinker", and I have every right to think that you are lying scum who's trying to get a possible cop lynched.-
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Netlava Mafia Scum
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Quit trying to make my post seem as if it's something it's not.
My post was actually a resolution not to post deliberately controversial posts in the future unless discussion is seriously lagging. (Discussion was lagging a bit at that point, since everyone and their mother was putting hadhfang on the top of their LOS)-
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We may not be hearing from Thesp for a bit. Barring massive objections, I'll give him 24 hours or so to make an appearance and then drop a hammer.Thesp in V/LA thread wrote:I'll be in Houston/Galveston beginning Thursday afternoon, returning Sunday late evening."By far the towniest player in the game. Very good scum hunting, doesn't let anyone off the hook. All in all I find Mac's posts insightful and thought-provoking. " - Vel-Rahn Koon-
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Walnut Goon
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That is a truly weird reason for voting.Tinsley wrote:Because Netlava is so close to a lynch:
Vote: Walnut
Charter, you continue to set up these nonsensical situations where you decide my play is scummy either way. For example:
1) You say something to accuse me, and vote for me.
2) I defend the accusation.
3) You say something that disagrees with my defense, and continue to vote for me.
4) According to what you just said, at this point I am supposed to stop defending myself.
As your last post is phrased as statements rather than questions, is it therefore to be ignored? Then people will suspect me for not answering, and any vaguely plausible sounding accusations will be taken as gospel.
This is just plain illogical. We are talking in a public forum, and the idea is that everyone reads what is written by every player. You don't determine who the scum are based on a one to one conversation with someone else, you use all the evidence in front of you. And tomorrow will be another day, with the night's results to provide more evidence. Seeing people are assuring me that I will get to speak on Day 2, I am looking forward to itYou don't need to defend yourself anymore, I'm already convinced you need to be lynched.Reading your signature makes me feel guilty and helpless.-
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Farkshinsoup Goon
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So you're saying that the reason that you suggested lynching Had even though he'd claimed cop was because you were trying to be deliberately provocative, in order to get conversation going?Netlava wrote:Quit trying to make my post seem as if it's something it's not.
My post was actually a resolution not to post deliberately controversial posts in the future unless discussion is seriously lagging. (Discussion was lagging a bit at that point, since everyone and their mother was putting hadhfang on the top of their LOS)
I don't believe you. There were other issues being discussed at the time, specifically BB's semi-role claim.
Had's roleclaim certainly seemed suspicious. He wasn't very believable. I think you were trying to capitalize on that and the fact that he had an unknown sanity to see if you couldn't get him lynched.-
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charter Beware of Dog
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Walnut, you continue to not scumhunt and just defend yourself. I'm not going to further discuss this with you because it will only prolong the scumhunting more.
I explained about the "don't need to defend yourself" bit. I misworded it horribly. This is a better way of wording it "You don't need to continue defending yourself against statements, not arguments, I'm making. I'm already convinced you need lynched."
For the record, I still think a Walnut lynch is the way to go today.-
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