Designer Mafia 2007 - Game Over, Final Scene Posted!

[mneme]

stark: 3 someones, right? Please keep your story straight. Not that I believe you.

[armlx]

You realize that if you vig me tonight, I could throw a gigant monkeywrench in your plans by stripping someone, right?

Except all the confirming is done tonight.

[Twomz]

Stark, if you are town why would you strip important people?

[Belgarion]

you guys should not have lynched ZA..

vote stark

..think his claim is full of lies.

[Kison]

I thought the stripping was random if he was killed?

[Twomz]

We started with 21 people right? We have 3 dead mafia, a dead SK, and a dead neutral.

With the neutral and SK, I'd say between 5 and 6 mafia total... so 2 or 3 alive out of 13, with a full 115 pages of data pertaining to alignment. With possibly multiple vigs and investigations at night, it shouldn't matter if a couple of roles are stripped, there still is almost no chance of the town losing.

[stark]

stark: 3 someones, right? Please keep your story straight. Not that I believe you.

Your attempt at twisting my words is not satisfactory.

Stark, if you are town why would you strip important people?

It is both random and involuntary.

[mneme]

Belgarion: I agree with you, but I'm happy to have him die at night so people can hedge (and if people really want to confirm my role, I can't but oblige).

[armlx]

Twomz, 4-5 mafia is more realistic especially considering the ones revealed were power roles.

[Sir Tornado]

Alright

Twomz, were you blocked (by Armlx) the nights you protected me? If so, I suggest you use the senses once more on me.

KScope, can you confirm some other non confirmed player tonight? (Armlx, SSF, Mneme, etc). Mneme might be a great choice since he can't die. Just check that he is not neutral or something.

OH, THE HORROR!

[armlx]

Sir T, mneme is probably the worst of those targets as the only way he could be scum is 1 shot lynch immune which we can just try again later if needed. The best is probably SSF, as if he is confirmed town and all possible mafia RB's are dead you know I am lying.

Twomz may want to consider re-trying you, but the issue becomes whether he lives to see day if thats the plan.

Anyways, current plan:

Kscope investigates SSF

Sir T vig's Fonz

Nocmen vig's stark

SSF goes back and looks at either myself any night other than N1.

TSS ressurects Jedi.

I protect Sim, mneme, and Belg

Kison protects Twomz

Twomz protects Sir T.

[Kison]

Why protect Mneme if he's 'invincible'?

[Sir Tornado]

OH, THE HORROR!

Armlx, I don't think Mneme is mafia. I just think there is a chance he is neutral (he mentioned a special win condition)

[Sir Tornado]

OH, THE HORROR!

Why is TSS resurrecting Jedi? Shouldn't he resurrect CKD so that we can get confirmation on the cult thing?

[Sir Tornado]

OH, THE HORROR!

Why is TSS resurrecting Jedi? Shouldn't he resurrect CKD so that we can get confirmation on the cult thing?

[armlx]

Why protect Mneme if he's 'invincible'?

I need a 3rd target that isn't performing a night action.

Armlx, I don't think Mneme is mafia. I just think there is a chance he is neutral (he mentioned a special win condition)

K, so lets just kill the mafia first then deal with this. I don't think we care too much about someone who is at worst neutral.

Why is TSS resurrecting Jedi? Shouldn't he resurrect CKD so that we can get confirmation on the cult thing?

He should be. I forgot about the cult thing for a minute.

[SSF352]

Why protect Mneme if he's 'invincible'?

I need a 3rd target that isn't performing a night action.

Armlx, I don't think Mneme is mafia. I just think there is a chance he is neutral (he mentioned a special win condition)

K, so lets just kill the mafia first then deal with this. I don't think we care too much about someone who is at worst neutral.

Why is TSS resurrecting Jedi? Shouldn't he resurrect CKD so that we can get confirmation on the cult thing?

He should be. I forgot about the cult thing for a minute.

In reference to the third point, how would reviving CKD give us confirmation on the cult issue? Would we really want to give a possible cult two votes (one offical and one controlled by the same person)?

Also, with Zoneace confirmed as telling the truth about his rolename, I'm hoping you guys can do me a small favor concerning nightchoices. If you want to target me, by all means feel free (except you armlx, I dont need a roleblocking), but please let me know afterward. I dont want to die because I track someone who targeted me that night.

Finally, armlx, I dont trust you, so there is no way I'm tracking you at your request. Who knows if and when you targeted me.

[the silent speaker]

Bel:

vote stark..think his claim is full of lies.

Of course it is, but he's getting vigged. This way we make assurance double sure. (For the record I opine that mneme is town, but lynching him costs nothing and gains confirmation.)

As Jedi has some shirts yet to hand out, he wouldn't be a

bad

resurrect. I'll choose one of them and I see no need to inform the town which ahead of time.

Otherwise I endorse the armlx plan. This includes the ssf-investigates-armlx part -- armlx has claimed his targets, so you know what nights to avoid, ssf -- and if ssf dies tonight, armlx is policy-lynched at the first available opportunity.

[armlx]

In reference to the third point, how would reviving CKD give us confirmation on the cult issue? Would we really want to give a possible cult two votes (one offical and one controlled by the same person)?

Belg would presumably still be town, and as town is in the best position to win CKD has incentive to turn himself in.

Otherwise I endorse the armlx plan. This includes the ssf-investigates-armlx part -- armlx has claimed his targets, so you know what nights to avoid, ssf -- and if ssf dies tonight, armlx is policy-lynched at the first available opportunity.

This.

I think Twomz should protect SSF tonight to insure the only way he could die is if I was lying.

[the silent speaker]

I think Twomz should protect SSF tonight to insure the only way he could die is if I was lying.

This.

[Twomz]

I think Twomz should protect SSF tonight to insure the only way he could die is if I was lying.

This.

I'm rather sure that if I did protect him he wouldn't die, regardless.

[SSF352]

I think Twomz should protect SSF tonight to insure the only way he could die is if I was lying.

This.

I'm rather sure that if I did protect him he wouldn't die, regardless.

Based on my flavor, I am almost completely sure I would.

[Sir Tornado]

TSS, if you are a cultist, and revive CKD, Belg would know you are a cult, and would out you. If you are not cultist, belg can confirm you town.

So, please revive CKD rather than Jedi tonight.

OH, THE HORROR!

[Twomz]

Unless your flavor is in all caps, I'm almost certain mine trumps yours.

If CKD's win condition changed, wouldn't Belg's win condition change?

[SSF352]

Unless your flavor is in all caps, I'm almost certain mine trumps yours.

If CKD's win condition changed, wouldn't Belg's win condition change?

I still don't think you could save me from time deaths, but its not important anyway.

I also am concerned about the CKD/Belg rezzing issue. Why are we bringing CKD back now instead of Jedi? Jedi has shirts, which seem to be useful when able to be used, whereas CKD as a cult member most certainly would be able to use Belg as a shield.