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Korts Luddite
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I read Lowell's posts in isolation, and nothing about the length or content of his posts differs from my town meta of him (admittedly though this consists of a single game).
About these pro-town "accusations", it was only four of those, in fact. It wouldn't have taken very much of your time to actually count them.scumchat never die-
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forbiddanlight Blowfish
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First, I apologize for my profanity earlier. It's rather annoying to see your scummiest suspect end up being the vig. But, stuff happens. Moving along, I feel a lot better about the TinVision thing, with a possible link to BlakAdder (IIRC, Tinvision "cleared" BlakAdder for being cooperative with his questioning whereas there were loose ends.) I'm on the fence with Korts. I don't know why, but I'm beginning to feel he might not be the play. Just emotion. I'm sure if I did another analysis of what happened between page 13 and now I'd find this, but I'd rather avoid another tl;dr thing. I may do a feelings post soon though without the block of summary text."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Lowell Jack of All Trades
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This is horrible.strife220 wrote:Actually, after a quick reread:
If we don't lynch Korts, can we lynch Lowell? He's made about a post every page; most every post is just 1 or 2 sentences. He pushed outing the masons with no meta proving that he actually believes it's a good move (subjective point, I know, but I think it's anti town). He's accused like 6 people of being pro-town. He made a vote on Sun Tzu without giving a reason, later stating he was 'just trying to get a wagon going for pressure,' apparently on a completely random player. Finally he's complaining about the vig, essentially discouraging him from using his kills.
Unvote, Vote: Lowellin hopes that people will join in. It takes about 2 minutes to reread all of his posts, and I think when read in sequence it becomes apparent that he's trying to seem pro-town without actually doing anything useful.
Would still like to see Korts lynched but that wagon seems to be stalled.
1) "Accusing" people of being town is every bit as useful (in terms of me getting my opinions out there) as is hopping my vote around or peppering the field with FOSs. I tend to find scum through process of elimination.
2) I'm still right about the mason thing, and there is precedent for it. Quit your whining.
3) The vote on Sun Tzu wasn't random. Suffice to say it's a meta thing, and refers to another game. Also, it's a single vote. Who cares?
4) The fact that my posts don't take long to read is GOOD, not bad. If only everyone could express themselves so succinctly.-
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StrangerCoug He/HimDoes not ComputeHe/Him
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I don't like Lowell's posts, which is why I confirm voted him, but I don't like this post of yours either. You're spoiling an otherwise good attack on Lowell by encouraging bandwagoning and going for the easiest lynch possible.strife220 wrote:If we don't lynch Korts, can we lynch Lowell? He's made about a post every page; most every post is just 1 or 2 sentences. He pushed outing the masons with no meta proving that he actually believes it's a good move (subjective point, I know, but I think it's anti town). He's accused like 6 people of being pro-town. He made a vote on Sun Tzu without giving a reason, later stating he was 'just trying to get a wagon going for pressure,' apparently on a completely random player. Finally he's complaining about the vig, essentially discouraging him from using his kills.
Unvote, Vote: Lowellin hopes that people will join in. It takes about 2 minutes to reread all of his posts, and I think when read in sequence it becomes apparent that he's trying to seem pro-town without actually doing anything useful.
Would still like to see Korts lynched but that wagon seems to be stalled.
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armlx Most JDTay-like
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forbiddanlight Blowfish
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Why is Korts better than Tin Vision or Blak Adder? Wasn't the majority of your case on Korts a percieved link between him and SC? Well, SC is the vig, so far without counterclaim. So, that's gone basically. The rest of the case isn't as solid, though it's there. So, tell me why Tin Vision or Blak Adder aren't good lynches? Or someone else of your choosing?"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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TTGL Mafia is over. Going to mod [b]Umineko No [color=red]Na[/color]ku Koro Ni[/b] Mafia. Pre-/ins, as always, are accepted.-
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Korts Luddite
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Greasy Spot Goon
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armlx Most JDTay-like
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roflcopter Jack of All Trades
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i am obviously willing to vote armlx, since i'm already doing so.soi soi soi
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forbiddanlight Blowfish
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Why? You probably stated the case earlier, but this seems rather OMGUSy. I want answers from both of you, please.Actually, if some people would be willing to vote armlx, that'd be all kinds of great."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
-StrangerCoug
TTGL Mafia is over. Going to mod [b]Umineko No [color=red]Na[/color]ku Koro Ni[/b] Mafia. Pre-/ins, as always, are accepted.-
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StrangerCoug He/HimDoes not ComputeHe/Him
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I know I said I confirmed my vote on Lowell, but I withdraw that, and I'll make him my vig target unless there are any objections to it.Greasy Spot wrote:Well I can't let all the other claimers haveallthe fun. I am the Mafia Godfather. I will always show up innocent.
Unvote: Lowellfor admitting to being the godfather
Vote: Greasy SpotSTRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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forbiddanlight Blowfish
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Um...I think you need to vig Vamp, assuming his replacement doesn't fix the massively bad play. But, otherwise, it is of course up to you. I just heavily favor vamp vig."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
-StrangerCoug
TTGL Mafia is over. Going to mod [b]Umineko No [color=red]Na[/color]ku Koro Ni[/b] Mafia. Pre-/ins, as always, are accepted.-
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armlx Most JDTay-like
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Lowell Jack of All Trades
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armlx wrote:This is standard Lowell behavior. Korts is a better lynch.NowI see why people get annoyed with my "town vibes" accusations. It's a douchy, backhanded compliment. It's basically "Oh, I own this guy. Because I'm so much more awesome than him and can read him like a book, I can confirm he's town."
Turnabout hurts.
Also, armlx is NOT town.-
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armlx Most JDTay-like
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Do you have reasoning behind that statement? I do behind mine, 2 games where you have acted as such and flipped town (Elemental Mafia and an ongoing).Lowell wrote:armlx wrote:This is standard Lowell behavior. Korts is a better lynch.NowI see why people get annoyed with my "town vibes" accusations. It's a douchy, backhanded compliment. It's basically "Oh, I own this guy. Because I'm so much more awesome than him and can read him like a book, I can confirm he's town."
Turnabout hurts.
Also, armlx is NOT town.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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Muerrto Mafia Scum
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Grr..sorry people will post tonight, just started a new job and finished moving etc, busyShowGames - 31
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iamausername Mafia Scum
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The case on Korts is certainly not entirely based on an SC connection, since it came up before there was any major suspicion of SC, although SC being vig weakens it some.
TinVision needs to say more, but he's not the only one, and I'm not really seeing what sets him apart from other lurkers (like, say, Sun Tzu, Jordan, silence).
Gonna take a closer look at things later, but right now I think I'd be most likely to switch to strife or BlakAdder, if at all.Elapsam semel occasionem non ipse potest Iuppiter reprehendere-
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Sun Tzu Goon
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I was thinking of changing my vote to SC. Now I need to find someone else.
I don't really like the cases against armlx or Lowell. I don't see anything scummy about armlx. Lowell seems to be posting normally and I took the vote for me as a joke (based on another game).
I still like a silence lynch but I could probably get on board a Korts wagon.
Sorry for not contributing much but I've been really busy lately. I'm going to reread the thread tonight after work and I'll post and vote then.If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles.-
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StrangerCoug He/HimDoes not ComputeHe/Him
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Why are we still debating on who we should lynch? Has anybody other than me read #507?STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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BlakAdder Goon
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Something tells me this wasn't serious. Why would the Godfather out himself? If you think he was serious, Coug, just vig him tonight, and we can try to hit a goon today.StrangerCoug wrote:Why are we still debating on who we should lynch? Has anybody other than me read #507?
Also, while I'm at it,vote: Lowellfor:
A. Demanding that the Masons claim
2. Lots of meaningless posts
D. Randomly trying to force a bandwagon on Sun Tzu
There are probably other reasons, but I'm kinda busy right now, and I'll list them later if I get the chance.Game Record (W-L-T)
Town: 1-2-1
Mafia: 1-2-0
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Korts Luddite
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armlx Most JDTay-like
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forbiddanlight Blowfish
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