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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:26 pm

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armlx wrote:Something is up with this Joubert wagon.
Obv scum, obv?

Do you sound this baseless in every game? Time for some meta.

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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:38 pm

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mik5 wrote:Sorry, I wasn't specific. I was talking more about the vote split between Joubert and Chubbs? Who do you think is more scummy and why?
Well, I think Joubert is the more scummy of the two, which is why I voted for him. I think Chubbs is just a newbtown (he COULD be newbscum, I'm not ruling that out). I just didn't see the scumminess that the wagon apparently saw, and didn't want to jump on that wagon. I think Joubert's vote x off today, and y tomorrow tactic seemed REALLY scummy- a lot moreso than Chubbs. Chubbs has barely posted, so I don't even have a proper read on him, so that's the main reason I didn't really get a scum vibe, even though I'm watching him too. Joubert seems to really want to get rid of Chubbs, along with a couple others, which I see as a potential mislynch.

Like mik said, I wasn't being tunneledvision, it's just that the past few pages were basically discussing only Joubert/Chubbs, so I figured mik wanted my opinion on that, but I wasn't entirely sure.
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:49 pm

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I just didn't see the scumminess that the wagon apparently saw, and didn't want to jump on that wagon. I think Joubert's vote x off today, and y tomorrow tactic seemed REALLY scummy- a lot moreso than Chubbs.
Ok, then why aren't you saying anything about roflcopter? He said the same thing. What's the difference?
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:52 pm

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holy shit forbiddanlight, how many fucking times do i have to explain that i did not say the same thing as joubert. go read my fucking posts about it, it is explained in very simple terms.
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:29 pm

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Roflcopter wrote:hi. its not his posts changing that make him more likely to be town, its the attitude of others in some extremely scummy posts towards him that make him more likely to be town. two separate people (joubert, alabaska) are trying desperately to orchestrate his mislynch in a way that can lead to a second lynch tomorrow of someone not in their scumgroup. joubert is the one doing this the most obviously. and yes, we're lynching somebody already if the town would get off of their asses and do it, because there really should be no question that joubert is scum after his
"lynch x as town today, lynch y tomorrow!" post. that kind of bullshit doesn't come from pro-town players, that comes from people who have a specific agenda of keeping their scumgroup off the chopping block in mind.
Damn... So you really didn't understand. I mean, I gave you the benefit of the doubt for so long, but you still manage to cling on such misunderstanding of your part? Incredible. And now, from that false logic, you're trying to do the very thing you'd like to incriminate both Alabaska and me for, i.e., orchestrating lynches based on irrecevable premises...

By contrast, I am prudent, so I'll give a...

FoS: Roflcopter


... for now...

And while I'm at it...

FoS: Mik5
, for obvious copycatting...

Of course, I will dampen them if you are willing to readjust your aim. On the other hand, if you keep trying to envenom the situation, the FoS will transform into a Vote...

Oh, and a last comment. Seeing how the bandwagon got aligned this fast without much content, we're good to go to catch scum from those who hopped last. Stay sharp, folks...
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:13 pm

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why isn't joubert dead yet?
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:02 pm

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Joubert wrote:
Roflcopter wrote:hi. its not his posts changing that make him more likely to be town, its the attitude of others in some extremely scummy posts towards him that make him more likely to be town. two separate people (joubert, alabaska) are trying desperately to orchestrate his mislynch in a way that can lead to a second lynch tomorrow of someone not in their scumgroup. joubert is the one doing this the most obviously. and yes, we're lynching somebody already if the town would get off of their asses and do it, because there really should be no question that joubert is scum after his
"lynch x as town today, lynch y tomorrow!" post. that kind of bullshit doesn't come from pro-town players, that comes from people who have a specific agenda of keeping their scumgroup off the chopping block in mind.
Damn... So you really didn't understand. I mean, I gave you the benefit of the doubt for so long, but you still manage to cling on such misunderstanding of your part? Incredible. And now, from that false logic, you're trying to do the very thing you'd like to incriminate both Alabaska and me for, i.e., orchestrating lynches based on irrecevable premises...

By contrast, I am prudent, so I'll give a...

FoS: Roflcopter


... for now...

And while I'm at it...

FoS: Mik5
, for obvious copycatting...

Of course, I will dampen them if you are willing to readjust your aim. On the other hand, if you keep trying to envenom the situation, the FoS will transform into a Vote...

Oh, and a last comment. Seeing how the bandwagon got aligned this fast without much content, we're good to go to catch scum from those who hopped last. Stay sharp, folks...
What is that misunderstanding? I'd like to know, because I seem to be under the same 'delusion', as you would call it. As what rofl did, I believe it's been explained at least twice(definitely once) before.

FoS:Joubert


If you can say what misunderstanding rofl has, don't hesitate to answer.
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:13 pm

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roflcopter wrote:holy shit forbiddanlight, how many fucking times do i have to explain that i did not say the same thing as joubert. go read my fucking posts about it, it is explained in very simple terms.
I wanted to see OP say that. You remember I was the one who pointed out the difference? I wanted to see if OP understood that or if he was just jumping on with half assed logic. I was hoping no one would ruin that, but alas, someone did. Tends to happen apparently. Also, dislike Jou's defense. It's too much "OMG, you misunderstoooooood me"and then OMGUS. no dice.
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:18 pm

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In response to Joubert:
Actually, I have never accused Alabaska of being scum. I also spoke out against multiple lynching if you read my earlier posts. So, I don't quite understand the copycat comment there.

Given the number of votes against you, it might be in your best interest to defend yourself rather than trying to spread blame. Please explain how we may have misconstrued the "misunderstanding" you spoke of (i assume this is the lynch x today, y tomorrow situation). What were you trying to accomplish by setting lynches up this way, and why would this be in the best interest for the townies?

My vote still isn't permanent, and I am still willing to hear you out. But please address the statements that got you into this voting situation (again, the vote x today vote y tomorrow situation) instead of simply calling them "misunderstandings."
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:18 pm

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EBWOP:I noticed that your vote is already on rofl.

I don't think any townie would forget where their vote was.

Vote:Joubert


P.S.:If you have the answers I asked for, please don't hesitate to answer, even in twilight. This applies to Alabaska too
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:18 pm

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forbiddanlight wrote:
roflcopter wrote:holy shit forbiddanlight, how many fucking times do i have to explain that i did not say the same thing as joubert. go read my fucking posts about it, it is explained in very simple terms.
I wanted to see OP say that. You remember I was the one who pointed out the difference? I wanted to see if OP understood that or if he was just jumping on with half assed logic. I was hoping no one would ruin that, but alas, someone did. Tends to happen apparently. Also, dislike Jou's defense. It's too much "OMG, you misunderstoooooood me"and then OMGUS. no dice.
ok good we're friends again. sorry about that. *hugs*
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:20 pm

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crap......Scigatt basically had posted my second paragraph before I was finished. Sorry for the redundancy.
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:33 pm

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Joubert's defense is teh suck.
unvote, vote joubert


Also, armlx, I agree there is some bussing going on here. :D
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:34 pm

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FUCK i hammered :/

That's what I get for reading the thread at 1:00 in the morning :/
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:37 pm

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Alabaska J wrote:FUCK i hammered :/

That's what I get for reading the thread at 1:00 in the morning :/
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:37 pm

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Also, @ whoever asked me about chubbs' behavior being noobscum instead of noobtown: I tend to associate cautious voting (unvoting ssf in the way he did after feeling a little pressure, voting nolynch) to be noobscum moves. Noobtown do this too but are much more defensive when they do it.
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:52 pm

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EBWOP:Also, I forgot to unvote, so my vote is technically on armlx.(So Alabaska didn't hammer)

unvote


I'm willing to hold off voting at least until Joubert posts again.
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:56 pm

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Scigatt wrote:EBWOP:Also, I forgot to unvote, so my vote is technically on armlx.(So Alabaska didn't hammer)

unvote


I'm willing to hold off voting at least until Joubert posts again.
Thank god. I'm not Rosso Carne; I don't like hammering that quickly. Also, me answering your question simul'd with you asking me to answer your question.

Before Joubert is hammered, I want to hear what armlx thinks is fishy. Then I think we a re god for the most part, although I personally would like everyone to check back in to state they are good with their vote (this is probably wishful thinking but w/e).
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:00 pm

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Alabaska J wrote:
Scigatt wrote:EBWOP:Also, I forgot to unvote, so my vote is technically on armlx.(So Alabaska didn't hammer)

unvote


I'm willing to hold off voting at least until Joubert posts again.
Thank god. I'm not Rosso Carne; I don't like hammering that quickly. Also, me answering your question simul'd with you asking me to answer your question.

Before Joubert is hammered, I want to hear what armlx thinks is fishy. Then I think we a re god for the most part, although I personally would like everyone to check back in to state they are good with their vote (this is probably wishful thinking but w/e).
What do you think of the fact that Joubert threatened rofl with a vote despite his vote being already on rofl.
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:01 pm

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him not paying attention. I would call that a nulltell.
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:21 pm

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For the record, Chubbs' lack of defensiveness is what makes me read him as newbscum rather than newbtown.

The joubert wagon feels too fast. If he's been bad enough to get lynched, I didn't notice.

This calls for a reread... at not midnight.
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:34 pm

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My feelings are that Joubert didn't really do that much (well, up until his last post) and his wagon went way too fast to be 100% legit.

Basically, what Ged said.
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:09 am

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armlx wrote:My feelings are that Joubert didn't really do that much (well, up until his last post) and his wagon went way too fast to be 100% legit.

Basically, what Ged said.
this is patently uninspiring.

i'm calling for a real hammer.
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:22 am

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I reread and changed my mind.

Unvote ChubbsMcLubbs, Vote Joubert


Chubbs isn't off the hook tomorrow, though. Add "dipping out of the thread to avoid having to deal with pressure" to the list of his tells.
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:58 am

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So, that's the HAMMAH! ? Should be one scum down, 3 to go then! Well, hopefully...
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