- Pine motivates KA
- KA JKs A50 and dave
- Ceph blocks Elements
- RCE writes a message about A50 and sends it to EP/PB
- UT checks dave
- Elements kills A50 (but will probably get blocked)
Also, giving up confscum for potentially confirmable town is really dumb, and if we lose this I'm going to rub it in all of your faces for being idiots and listening to the guy who literally claimed scum after getting two investigations on him.
In post 12202, Bingle wrote:Also, giving up confscum for potentially confirmable town is really dumb, and if we lose this I'm going to rub it in all of your faces for being idiots and listening to the guy who literally claimed scum after getting two investigations on him.
Lynch Gobble.
Lynch UT's next guilty after, don't lynch until that guilty exists.
Then lynch in KA/Ceph. That should get rid of ML/Ele. The blockers need to cross target until they're getting lynched. Lynch A50 if both die and the game is still going.
Abandon this strat if a NK goes through, as there will necessarily be two scum left alive.
I made the game literally unwinnable for myself if I'm scum and you're lynching me first over literally confirmed scum anyway.
I wash my hands of everything.
If the mafia is dead we've already won. It's crazy to me that Mr. Technical Play thinks two cult, one of whom is outed 100%, is something we're supposed to care about right now.
Yes. Three players who I'm proposing still get roleblocked tonight. I'm proposing a way to kill off two of the antitown slots without letting the status quo of Scum No Killing change. And you're trying to shift that away from mafia having to be accountable for their actions.
I'M LITERALLY NEUTERED IF SCUM. I DON'T HAVE AN OUT. THAT MEANS THAT IF I'M ARGUING A STRAT THAT DOESN'T GIVE ME AN OUT, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY LISTEN TO IT BECAUSE IT'S TRUSTWORTHY.
In post 12213, Cephrir wrote:Please explain to me how it's mechanically better to lynch two scum with no kill over two scum that do have a kill.
1st, how do you know there are two mafia remaining?
2nd, mafia didn't use their kill last night, thus they CAN'T use their kill for some reason (probably you're not multitasking and not blocking someone who gets a visible block result damns you).
3rd, Ele and ML can win without making town lose if ML is telling the truth and we can test that without screwing ourselves by killing cult first.
In post 12214, Bingle wrote:THAT MEANS THAT IF I'M ARGUING A STRAT THAT DOESN'T GIVE ME AN OUT, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY LISTEN TO IT BECAUSE IT'S TRUSTWORTHY.
I don't know that you don't have an out. What if you can move more votes than I realize and all you need is one more day and you control the lynch? What if scum have a day 10 dayvig? IDFK. I know exactly what the cultists can do and it's nothing.
In post 12171, Bingle wrote:You could be faking the vanilla-ization.
Killing you/2nd cult and dropping the player list to 10 tells us whether ML and Ele need to be killed or if they can win with town.
If there are no more scum, this is the only way to give A50 the potential survivor win.
If there ARE more scum, they can't let us have however many additional investigations this plan will net us. If there are more scum, them killing while I'm under a semi permanent block gives me a soft clear. (Can't be last scum).
Both remaining cultists need to be dealt with for town to win, and if scum isn't actively killing they might as well be dealt with now.
The logic isn't difficult, and the idea that all of you can't do simple math is fucking ridiculous.
In post 12214, Bingle wrote:THAT MEANS THAT IF I'M ARGUING A STRAT THAT DOESN'T GIVE ME AN OUT, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY LISTEN TO IT BECAUSE IT'S TRUSTWORTHY.
I don't know that you don't have an out. What if you can move more votes than I realize and all you need is one more day and you control the lynch? What if scum have a day 10 dayvig? IDFK. I know exactly what the cultists can do and it's nothing.
What if mafia had 14 players at the start of the game hurrdurr.
Maybe it's dave; maybe they forgot to send an action in; maybe they're not multitasking (i forget if we know this) and had to use their outed provable action instead?
look i don't know i'm just trying to play mafia and i'm terrible at mechanics and i want to sort the unknown thing and find out if i need to worry about KA being scum who blocked me somehow.
it seems to me you must still believe the mafia exists since you're so worried about town losing this and there's no way we could lose against just the sk & cult.
