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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:12 am

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Gimbo, how are IH's latest posts opportunistic? Specific examples please.

Please explain your thoughts on PEG some more.

Also, why do you seem so hung up on the fact that I did not post much in the early game? That's all you have had to say about me for weeks now is that I'm a hypocrtical lurker. How about actually assessing the content of my posts and my alignment rather than getting pissed off over the fact that I'm calling you out over not contributing?
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:21 am

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In post 361, IH basically says that he doesn't care who gets lynched (Dcorbe or Zeek) as logn as one of them does, then in a subsequent post he said "its time for action" and then votes for Dcorbe because his wagon was the biggest.

PEG is way too ambiguous to get a read on. its like reverse-reverse psychology or deep WIFOM territory, he might act scummy because he is scum and therefore using r-psych or he is just an awful townie.
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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:21 am

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ShadowLurker - i don't see what your position in the game is and who u find scummy, thnx.
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:52 am

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IH's voting doesn't bother me - I could see doing that. It's the ebb/flow that this game has that bothers me. At any given point, half the game is just not here or isn't reading.

That, and this day has just went on and on. I'd love to see all 9 of us post something with some content AND maybe come to a consensus in the near future.
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:29 am

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hi all, real life caught up to me in the form of exams. i'll be /la for a while, but i'll check in every once in a while when i can.

i'll just skimming through though, so post my name in bold letters if you have a question adressed to me.
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:47 am

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Ahh exams, good luck!

We have anything else to say, or are we stalling until there is a replacement?
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:12 pm

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SpyreX, you consider me scummy because of my supposed "defense of PEG," right? Is that scummy because he could be my scum-partner? Is there anything else?
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:48 am

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not letting this game die down again.
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:37 am

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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:54 am

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Sorry, I've been without access for the last few days (though it doesn't look like I missed much).

BnB wrote:SpyreX, you consider me scummy because of my supposed "defense of PEG," right? Is that scummy because he could be my scum-partner? Is there anything else?
Not necessarily. It's scummy that you a) refuse to consider a player could be scum [especially considering they have given you no reason to assume they are town] and b) defend a player who is being anti-town.

You could be defending him just because you know by keeping him alive it will always distract the town and they won't have time to find you/your scum buddy because we're always arguing about PEG. And if you were town, I don't see how you could just not even consider the possibility that another player is scum because you wouldn't know anyone's role except your own - and that is how all of your posts come off - you don't even consider that PEG could be scum, you just automatically assume he is town and defend him, even though you have admitted that he is "anti-town" b ut you still don't want us to consider lynching him. To me that is odd.


I am pissed that dc is getting replaced without explaining himself too.

unvote; vote dc


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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:55 am

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Artem replaces Dcorbe.
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:01 am

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SpyreX, you consider me scummy because of my supposed "defense of PEG," right? Is that scummy because he could be my scum-partner? Is there anything else?
No, that isn't all. Yes, on some level I feel you have been defending PEG. I haven't brought that up in a while though.

I'll just pull this right from the post a while back where I said it the first time:

What I think about the game from the reread:

There are three main points I want to make so that my logic makes sense:
1.) I am 95% certain that one of, but not both, Kamikaze (DC) and Shelby (BnB) are scum. I personally lean more towards kamikaze in rereading.
2.) I do NOT think that scum are bussing their partners in this mess (up to this point).
3.) Putting PEG in a newbie game as an IC is a punishment that none of us deserved.

So, why after all that am I voting for DC? First off, I think he has the highest chance to be scum. Also, his kill gives me a lot of personal information on the OTHER players as well:

- If DC is scum (which is what I believe):
- PEG is town.
- BnB is town.
- Zeek is very highly likely to be the scum partner.

- If DC is town:
- BnB IS scum (remember, I think one of the two IS scum at this point).
- PEG is much more likely to be scum.
- Zeek is much less likely to be the scum partner.
- IH would raise some suspicion.



So, I think that shelby was scummy and the entire exchange between you/me/zeek was not done well on any sides.

However, you can see my vote is on DC because, at this point, I think he's got a much higher chance to be scum than you do, currently.
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:00 pm

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Confirming replacement of Dcorbe.


Sixth time is a charm ;)



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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:39 pm

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Well, better get on that. :)
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:08 pm

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Actually, I'll make it simple. What is your role?
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:32 pm

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Votecount:

Dcorbe/Artem [4] (SpyreX, IH, Dcorbe/Artem, ZeekLTK)

Not Voting [5] (Gimbo, Ting, BnB, Shadowlurker, Pickemgenius)

5 to lynch.

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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:45 pm

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What the hell?

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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:16 pm

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Artem..keep in mind that you ARE at L-1 and there's still 5 votes hanging around waiting to be added somewhere ;)
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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:13 pm

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He's L-2 now, but still...
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:24 pm

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Quarter of the way through. Not even to the point where I can understand the 4 votes on me (including my own).

Hoping to get through it tonight, so be careful with those hammers. ;)
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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:27 pm

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We've waited this long, so I think we can be a little more patient.
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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:54 pm

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ZeekLTK wrote: Not necessarily. It's scummy that you a) refuse to consider a player could be scum [especially considering they have given you no reason to assume they are town]
Zeek.
I NEVER REFUSED TO THINK HE'S SCUM

Why can't you back up your claims with evidence about this?
Because there's no fucking evidence.
ZeekLTK wrote: and b) defend a player who is being anti-town.
Once again, YOU COMPLETELY IGNORE THAT I WAS ATTACKING YOU!
It's anti-town to go for easy lynches. I was attacking your anti-town play.
unvote; vote dc


I dunno if that's the hammer or not,
Mod: Where was the unvote before that?

I'm not complaining that you're keeping him alive, but when I was keeping track I thought for sure DC was lynched here. What post did I miss? and started to freak out.
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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:55 pm

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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:04 pm

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Before you vanish, anything to say to my statements BnB?
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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:05 pm

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You keep saying I was going for "easy lynches" but we are on PAGE 21 and he still hasn't been lynched...
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