Mature Mafia: Game Over

[Talitha]

can't have a discussion with you

I agree with you that this is not ideal, but I still believe that we have to work with all the information that we have. Are you an advocate of people who replace into games having a clean slate? If so please link me to a game where you've advocated this. If not, explain to me what is different about this situation that we should disregard information, even if it is weak.

[Talitha]

Since it's a new page I'll quote all of EK's sentence, for clarity:

I don't like your argument because it takes advantage of people who aren't here anymore and can't have a discussion with you. So it's just you ascribing motivations to their actions, and that seems really weak and unreliable to me.

[Talitha]

DGB: Why do you think nonny is town?

[nonny]

I agree that replacements don't get clean slates. I think the point was that they aren't accussed as being scum solely on the fact that they got replaced. Ussually you have more to it, something the previous person did that lead you to this conclusion. Saying that they got replaced purely because they must be scum and not able to handle it is where you get into a uncommon area that leads to no evidence and only speculation.

[Talitha]

Sigh.

*heads off to bang head repeatedly against wall*

[Glork]

Just looked at the posts since I last posted, and it's interesting that I have the most posts (112) in the thread.



I know it probably won't convince anybody of anything, but my activity site-wide (and in scumchat, and online in general) has dropped dramatically in the last couple of months. The only game I've posted regularly in is the one game with strict posting requirements.

There are a handful of factors which contributed to this -- the most prevelant one being that my meatworld life has gotten... well, "unbelievably hectic" would be putting it mildly. My next posts will go into catching up on and analyzing the game and trying to be a presence here. I'm not going to waste any more of your time throwing out excuses or explanations for my absence. My burden to bear, and I'm at least as upset with myself as any of you may be with me.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB: Why do you think nonny is town?

Demeanor and attitude.

[elvis_knits]

can't have a discussion with you

I agree with you that this is not ideal, but I still believe that we have to work with all the information that we have. Are you an advocate of people who replace into games having a clean slate? If so please link me to a game where you've advocated this. If not, explain to me what is different about this situation that we should disregard information, even if it is weak.

Actually I usually do advocate giving replacements a chance. Not really a clean slate. I don't forget what happened before, but I do try to give the replacement a chance and base some of my accusations on the present player. I guess my thinking is that if a person is scum they're gonna give it away, so I'd rather look closely at the replacement to be sure. I'll link you to games if I have some time today -- which I probably will.

Sometimes I argue against a clean slate, but I think I'm usually scum there pushing a lynch. Maybe that's why I feel your comments are scummy. That's what I'd do as scum!

Also, on a meta note, in Crubtown mini, when you came up with the theory that QF would have killed Akonas early if she was scum and he was town -- I went along with it because I was scum and it served my purposes. In truth, I think it's a bad reason to lynch someone, evidence being Akonas' innocence. So when you came up with this new theory in this game about replacements being scum, it reminded me of your scummy scheming in Crubtown mini.

Does that make things any clearer?

[logicticus]

Alright, 9 days since Corons last post.

I am officially done with him, I will actively look for replacements for him.

[nonny]

I agree with that plan logicticus. Cause he has apparently been active in some other games.

[Adel]

how exactly are you going about finding a replacement?

[nonny]

looks like he is useing the thread in the queue. Course this only works if emptyger gives the replacement coron's role.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 7&start=75

[logicticus]

yeah, thats the attempt, but i think its gonna be hard to get somebody to bite on a 34 page day 2

[Werebear]

That or we lynch him. But then who would count the votes?

[Axelrod]

Good grief. It still seems like basically everyone is a candidate. I have no reason to doubt my earlier impression of Elvis Knits and Logicitus so those would be pretty much the only players I wouldn't vote for at a deadline. Talitha seems a little better also, though she's still not really doing much active scum-hunting.

Glork and Coron's posting has been non-existant. DGB's posting has been a joke. Both the replacements deserve looking at based mostly on the acts of their predecessors.

Adel is kind of the wild card. She's posting though, so I don't see myself voting for her at this time either.

Glork or Coron. Then Nonny. Then DGB. Then Werebear. Then Adel. Then Talitha. Then Logiticus. Then Elvis Knits. That's probably my rough and not especially well informed order right now.

[logicticus]

I really feel like we are headed to no lynch right now and it pisses me off. We have had forever on this day and cant get anything done. I almost just want to mod kill half the players so the active ones can at least continue on in some semblance of a game.

[Adel]

i think it is informative to read all posts by logicticus in isolation.

Where does he get the idea that he is an active player?

[Axelrod]

I don't think we are going to No Lynch. 1/2 of Majority +1 = a minimum of 4 votes, right? We can get 4 votes on someone.

Right?

[nonny]

That or we lynch him. But then who would count the votes?

we would also have to hope he eventually posts his role...

[armlx]

How does the replacing in thing work if I'm not getting a role from the mod? I've PM'ed and what not, but I'm not sure how this works.

[nonny]

I would suggest pming the one your replacing....aka coron

and Thanks!

[nonny]

EBWOP: I also aim'd coron to ask him to send you the role. (he is active on the site just not here obv)

[logicticus]

well i must say its exciting to get another replacement.

and adel, i never claimed i was the most active person here, sheer volume of posts does not make one active, but i am certainly not the least active

[Adel]

I almost just want to mod kill half the players so the active ones can at least continue on in some semblance of a game.

would you be in the half that are active enough to avoid your proposed (jokingly) modkill of the inactive 50%?

[logicticus]

i would be right on the line, but would like to think i would not be mod killed. especially if we weight activity of late a little more