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[chennisden]

Gobble would have to be scum for Creature to be town

And both of those independently aren't very likely, so.

[Alchemist21]

I totally empathize

The feeling that Alch is scum... but also the feeling that in feeling that Alch is scum, we're ignoring a lot of important stuff

Like the fact I cleared a Miller, which is another thing Gobble has tried to dismiss as wifom.

[chennisden]

Right... flub would be another easy mislynch for scum, so no real reason fro Alch to clear him.

[chennisden]

And if Alch was planning to do the 1 mislynch for 1 scum trade he would've... guiltied Flub?

[gobbledygook]

I think I’ve found two scum and neither of them are named Alchemist. This is interesting. Things are starting to make sense in my mind now. I am excited.

[chennisden]

SOS

This game is hard

Send help please

[gobbledygook]

SOS

This game is hard

Send help please

The coast guard is almost there!

[Blatant Scum]

SOS

This game is hard

Send help please

This is why I used setup specing.

[chennisden]

And look how far we've gotten with that

[chennisden]

You haven't even voted creature, and you shame me for doing the impossible of -3 posts

[Doctor Drew]

Drew botched his fakeclaim

Explain please.

And turkey, I have been discussing who I think is the other scum. That other game I was the main wagon and I was the only person who saw fish as obv scum as my mislynch was happening, was frustrating to no end. Very different then was is happening here.

[Doctor Drew]

Post Edit: Jjh, ok I see your explanation (in the middle of catching up).

My role said I would survive one death. I asked mod for clarification if that included lynch, he said yes.

[Titus]

And look how far we've gotten with that

Look how far you've gotten by ignoring the conftown every day. The lynches have been scum driven.

My town core is together. 3/5 of you are Alchemist's buddies.

[Titus]

Looking at Alchemist's post.

[Titus]

Gobble would have to be scum for Creature to be town

And both of those independently aren't very likely, so.

I don't see how this is true.

Look at the Creature town setup.

You can't bitch about me being confbiased and not reassess your own conclusions.

[Titus]

You hand-wave logical points against yurkin with "oh but Alch is scum, so ignore"

There is no logical point against yurkin. The only point against him is that his posting slowed down after he was vanillaized. So did most everyone.

[Titus]

No. If Alch is scum you should have all the more reason to believe she's town considering she'd be in a way better spot if she bussed as scum.

I go back and forth on Gobble but I firmly believe regardless of Alch/Drew's alignment that scum are in no bus mode since it takes 100% of town to lynch. They'd rather no lynch.

[Titus]

1) They can't
2) It benefits them to get his claim doubted - "If he's so OP how has he not been mislynched?"
3) Even if he gets a guilty there are a myriad of things the guiltied person can do. FOR EXAMPLE, point out #2, which Drew did repeatedly

1) Untrue, given setup balance
2) He could be vanillaized or shot. Scum did neither. Fypov, Drew claimed vanillaized before knowing Alch had a guilty. P.S. Alchemist's question to the mod supports Drew being Vanillaized and that Alch knew.
3) That is wisdom and always existing in mylo. It's not evidence of town or scum.

[Titus]

What was Yurkin before they were vanillized? What were you before you were vanillized, Drew?

Yurkin was double voter.

I was 1 shot bulletproof.

Alright, here's the result.

Alch has a guilty on Drew allegedly.

Unless it is from the hood with Gamma.....he is lying.

Drew claimed vanillaized before the guilty.

Alch asked if vanillaized players retained PTs. The mod said yes. If you didn't think Drew was vanillaized, there would be zero need to ask.

[gobbledygook]

Lavender

(9): jjh927,

Doctor Drew

,

gobbledygook, Gamma Emerald, Egix96

, Yodavader, Blatant Scum,

Titus

, Creature

pisskop

(4):

Crimson97

, yurkin,

Looker

Blatant Scum (2):

pisskop, Lavender

Flubbernugget

(1):

Alchemist21

Gamma Emerald

(1):

Flubbernugget

jjh927 (1):

Chennisden

---

Gamma Emerald

(8): Blatant Scum,

Doctor Drew

,

pisskop, Egix96, Titus, Looker, Gobbledygook

,

Alchemist21

Chennisden (2):

Flubbernugget, Gamma Emerald

Flubbernugget

(2): YodaVader, yurkin
Doctor Drew (1):

Chennisden

Creature (1): jjh927

Looker

(1): Creature

---

Looker

(7):

Alchemist21

,

Doctor Drew

,

Gobbledygook

, jjh927,

Chennisden

,

Looker, Flubbernugget

Doctor Drew (3):

Titus

, Creature, Blatant Scum
Not Voting (3):

Egix96

, yurkin, YodaVader

===

Alchemist Town, Drew Scum

Lavender

(9): jjh927,

Doctor Drew

,

gobbledygook, Gamma Emerald, Egix96

, Yodavader, Blatant Scum,

Titus

, Creature

pisskop

(4):

Crimson97

, yurkin,

Looker

Blatant Scum (2):

pisskop, Lavender

Flubbernugget

(1):

Alchemist21

Gamma Emerald

(1):

Flubbernugget

jjh927 (1):

Chennisden

---

Gamma Emerald

(8): Blatant Scum,

Doctor Drew

,

pisskop, Egix96, Titus, Looker, Gobbledygook

,

Alchemist21

Chennisden (2):

Flubbernugget, Gamma Emerald

Flubbernugget

(2): YodaVader, yurkin
Doctor Drew (1):

Chennisden

Creature (1): jjh927

Looker

(1): Creature

---

Looker

(7):

Alchemist21

,

Doctor Drew

,

Gobbledygook

, jjh927,

Chennisden

,

Looker, Flubbernugget

Doctor Drew (3):

Titus

, Creature, Blatant Scum
Not Voting (3):

Egix96

, yurkin, YodaVader

===

Alchemist Scum, Drew Town

This is what I have been working on. I did the colors where one of Alchemist/Drew is scum or town. I included Chennisden as town because I feel that he is being pretty townie in this game. I am not sure what to make of it... If Blatant Scum is town, Gamma Emerald's wagon is very interesting as it is entirely town driven either way.

At any rate, I think that JJH is scum.

[jjh927]

Post Edit: Jjh, ok I see your explanation (in the middle of catching up).

My role said I would survive one death. I asked mod for clarification if that included lynch, he said yes.

But your role is called bulletproof?

[Alchemist21]

What was Yurkin before they were vanillized? What were you before you were vanillized, Drew?

Yurkin was double voter.

I was 1 shot bulletproof.

Alright, here's the result.

Alch has a guilty on Drew allegedly.

Unless it is from the hood with Gamma.....he is lying.

Drew claimed vanillaized before the guilty.

Alch asked if vanillaized players retained PTs. The mod said yes. If you didn't think Drew was vanillaized, there would be zero need to ask.

My questions to the mod helped me make sure my guilty was actually a guilty. I didn’t just assume he was lying until I the mod answered everything.

[Doctor Drew]

Post Edit: Jjh, ok I see your explanation (in the middle of catching up).

My role said I would survive one death. I asked mod for clarification if that included lynch, he said yes.

But your role is called bulletproof?

Correct, which is why I asked for clarification on if it meant any death.

[jjh927]

Drew claimed vanillaized before the guilty.

Do you mean before it was revealed or before Alch told you about it

[chennisden]

Gobble would have to be scum for Creature to be town

And both of those independently aren't very likely, so.

I don't see how this is true.

Look at the Creature town setup.

You can't bitch about me being confbiased and not reassess your own conclusions.

Working off of quickhammer opportunities. Drew and Gobble were on