Pikmin Mafia - Game over

[Nightson]

vote: The Jester

[mikeburnfire]

Vote Count!
With 12 alive, it will take 7 to lynch.

6 JamesThePhox (armlx, Claus, dcorbe, Greasy Spot, Kison, The Jester)
2 The Jester (Gorrad, Nightson)
1 Greasy Spot (skitzer)
1 Claus (JamesthePhox)
Not Voting: GhostWriter, Xdaamno

[Kison]

Unvote

[JamesThePhox]

Alrighty here we go. I'll just give a list who I think is inno. Who I'm not sure about, and who I think is mafia.

Innocent:
- Gorrad: His One Shot Vig claim is valid.
- Nightson: I agree with Gorrad that it makes sense for two White Pikmin to be in play. Also Nightson has not come across scummy in any of his posts so far. What little he had to offer, anyways.
- armlx: His actions against Windkirby Day 3.

Guilty:
- Claus: "On the fence" posts. Asked armlx for confirmation to lynch windkirby (the scum). His eagerness to lynch me and Kison, even though windkirby was (in my mind) obviously guilty.
- Xdaamno: "On the fence" posts as well that provide little analysis/substance.

Unsure: Everyone else
- Kison: Leaning pro-town. His attacks on JDodge were fine, even though JDodge #1 was townie.
- Greasy Spot: The attacks on the slip, which was in itself a poor reason, make me think that scum could be jumping on Greasy Spot. I think he's innocent because of the mass claim (2 Purple Pikmin make sense). And also windkirby tried to get town to lynch GS Day 3 using the same weak attack.

I have no real opinion on everyone else. I'll do a read through tomorrow and get a better idea.

How sure am I that I have a bomb ability? 50%. If this Pikmin Themed Mafia is just like the game, then there is no reason that a White Pikmin doesn't have one. I feel like the Mod didn't explicitly state it in the Role PM because by the name alone, a bomb ability can be assumed. This is why on Page one, there is a Pikmin Wikipedia. Do your research, nothing needs to be explicitly said.

Lynching one of the Red Pikmin? Yes, it seems like a valid place to look for scum, because there was such a high number of them. I feel that Red + Blue Pikmin make up for the "Vanilla Townies" since it doesn't seem to me that there is an enemy that can use Fire/Water-based attacks. There was an electrical enemy, which supports the 3 Yellow Pikmin (2 Yellow + 1 One Shot Bombrock). An enemy that blows Pikmin away supports the 2 Purple Pikmin.

I would not mind lynching any of the Red claims or Claus (for reasons above stated).

[Kison]

Innocent:
...
- armlx: His actions against Windkirby Day 3.

I don't see why armlx is getting all the credit for getting windkirby lynched.

Why do these seem to contradict?

Please complete the other players. I'm likely going to place my vote back onto you. If you wind up being Town, I want to know what exactly you're thinking. I think I know what I will be doing tomorrow if that is the case. However, each time I second guess this, you wind up saying something that makes me want to put my vote back on you. I can't fathom why one moment you'd insinuate that Armlx shouldn't be given recognition for going after Windkirby, then the next use that very point to defend him.

[JamesThePhox]

No. I'm saying that armlx's actions against windkirby I agree with. But I don't see why he should be taking ALL the credit for it, when it was actually me who actually got windkirby pinned as mafia Day 2 and the start of Day 3. Since people seem to forget that (notice I'm at L-2). And I'm just frustrated.

[Kison]

I'm drawing a blank on that one, but I will take another look at that when I have time.

Who was it who mentioned the possibility of two scum groups earlier? I'm not finding that likely simply due to the color scheme used on the first page. Does the theme imply there might be two scum groups?

[JamesThePhox]

Well, Gorrad assumes the Puffy Blowhog was an SK.

I thought there could be two scum groups: Blowhogs and Dweevils.

[Gorrad]

There is a possibility that there are two scumgroups, Elemental Dweevils and the gobbler/blowhog. The other possibility is that there are four dweevils and a blowhog SK.

[armlx]

I can't fathom why one moment you'd insinuate that Armlx shouldn't be given recognition for going after Windkirby, then the next use that very point to defend him.

I can. Who am I voting right now?

[Claus]

Hey JtP

Sorry for being such an useless player - but it is more because of the size of the game than anything else.

Do your research, nothing needs to be explicitly said.

I don't agree with this. My role PM seems pretty explicit. Also, I feel that your bandwagon has hanging for so long at such high levels, means that this is a townie powered bandwagon, and that you're scum.


I'll

unvote - FoS JtP

- to everyone, do not consider this an unvote - If JtP is really telling the truth, maybe he hasn't been lynched yet because scum is afraid to trigger the bomb. I'm putting my money where my mouth is:

I'll vote JtP back when his wagon reaches L-1

. If I explode, all the better - one less townie that could be easily bandwagoned by scum near the endgame.

[Nightson]

Claus still doesn't get what a bomb is.

[Claus]

hmmmm, maybe I used different names...

so, you're using bomb as if they were a PGO?

[armlx]

so, you're using bomb as if they were a PGO?

Doubt it, PGO usually kills anyone who targets them.

[Kison]

Well, if we're dealing with two scum groups, the idea of 'pegging' scum holding much bearing on my perception of a player is sort of tossed out of the window.

I have no real opinion on everyone else. I'll do a read through tomorrow and get a better idea.

Will wait one more day for this.

Not sure what to think of Claus's "I will hammer!" speech. I think it's pretty clear that JtP is not a bomb/hammer kamikaze at this point.

[Claus]

In the site where I played before this one, "bomb" was the name used for roles that explode upon hammering. I think I clearly remember JtP saying he thought he was a bomb with 50% confidence - in other words, miscommunication.

Vote: JtP

[armlx]

Bomb can also mean kills the attacker on NKs. I'm assuming that was at least part of JtP's intent.

[The Jester]

Yet he says it in the, "If I am, I wasn't told." Also one of his last posts was like, "If I was a bomb, I'm going to laugh at you." So, yeah...

[Nightson]

Uh. I'm not saying I'm a supersaint. (I've mentioned this before.)

I'm saying that White Pikmin may have the ability to kill an enemy, if killed at night by consumption. Nothing to do with Lynching during the day.

This role is usually designed

to kill anyone who night kills it

, and

also whoever casts a final lynch vote.

I hope that makes it easier to understand. Since I don't think a death for final casting a lynching vote would fit the White Pikmin flavor. (White Pikmin killing other Pikmin? Doesn't make sense).

So anyone is free to hammer without fearing a death (based on my assumptions). But uh, my final wish is for town to get their asses in gear and to look up the things I have said, because I think they are VERY RELEVANT.

I don't even know what any of you are going on about anymore so I'm just going to quote this post.

[JamesThePhox]

Thanks Nightson.

[Greasy Spot]

I think it's pretty clear that JtP is not a bomb/hammer kamikaze at this point.

Why are we still debating this? The issue is not whether he has this ability or not, it's that he claimed to have this ability because of the color he claims, not because it was told to him by the Mod.

[Kison]

I think it's pretty clear that JtP is not a bomb/hammer kamikaze at this point.

Why are we still debating this? The issue is not whether he has this ability or not, it's that he claimed to have this ability because of the color he claims, not because it was told to him by the Mod.

Because Santa Claus thought people were trembling in fear of asplodin' and so offered to hammer like a hero from a fantasy book.

[Claus]

Yeah - my reading skills fail. Does this prove that I'm a stupid pikmin?

[Kison]

Depends... Is a Bulbmin a Pikmin?

(honestly, I don't know)

[armlx]

Depends... Is a Bulbmin a Pikmin?

(honestly, I don't know)

It is a predator that has been parasitized by a Pikmin, so yes?