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Post Post #5225 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:41 am

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Tex still hasn't claimed. Anyone care? I do.
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Post Post #5226 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:41 am

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Okay so that leaves {Hopkirk, Hectic, AFF, Titus, Garmr, texcat, and Eevee} as the scum candidates.

I'd like to clarify that I think it's unlikely that you two are scum bussing each other. I'm gonna reread both of your slots at some point because I'm not 100% sure what I'm supposed to be seeing in you two.

I think there's exactly 1t/1s in {Titus, Garmr}. Assuming 3 scum left after that that leaves {Hopkirk, Hectic, tex, Eevee}. Out of the four I think you've been the towniest Hop.

PEDIT: I explained the vote on Titus. Then I unvoted because I realized I jumped the gun and should've waited for Garmr's result (a result which I think is bs btw).

PEDIT2: Didn't they claim VT? If not then I definitely want a claim.
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Post Post #5227 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:44 am

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Ctrl F did not find a claim for 'vanilla' or 'townie' and I don't remember Tex claiming a PR.

Can you link where you scumread Titus/where it became a scumread AFF?
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Post Post #5228 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:10 am

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Aaron's behaviour has been kinda all over the place regarding his reads.
Remind me why you think Garmr will probably flip town? Do you buy his AtE?
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Post Post #5229 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:04 pm

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AF vote Eevee.
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Post Post #5230 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:04 pm

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In post 5085, Hopkirk wrote:I love how Hectic seems to have forgotten that he wasn't townreading Rick but then forgets that during the last page where he doesn't mention Rick at all.
In post 5089, Hopkirk wrote:Hectic framing my flip on him as unnatural pretty much has to make him scum.

He knows I reevaluate games a lot. We recently had an (offsite) hydra where he could clearly see my reads flip frequently (tunneling turn to strongest townreads, strong townread to scumread). He shouldn't be surprised whatsoever that I moved him back to a scumpool when there was 7-8 non conf town.
In post 5090, Hopkirk wrote:Tex makes sense to scumflip after Hectic. He's putting her in a position where he scumreads her, but only through association, so he would never lynch her before me.
Also he never really has anything to say about her before today aside from some limp questioning and a little defense.

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If he's scum, it has everything to do with none of the conftown expressing a desire to lynch me today. So he sees that after those posts, and decided to reason with me and get me to vote for another mislynch instead.
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Post Post #5231 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:08 pm

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None of the conf town scumread have said they scumread me specifically, none have specified a townread on you, and some of them scumread you- eg Carcalilly is literally voting you.

I've been going after the Eevee lynch for most of the game.

Disagree with either point here?
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Post Post #5232 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:10 pm

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So have you answered any of the questions I've asked like 'why does Hop go after Eevee like that'?
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Post Post #5233 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:22 pm

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Every conftown has expressed desire to lynch 1 or 2 people moreso than the others. My point is that I'm not in those 1 or 2 people for any of them.
So scum!you realised I wasn't a viable Mislynch for today, and changed your approach regarding me.

Lilly was voting for me yesterday.
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Post Post #5234 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:23 pm

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But true, assuming Eevee's scum, you are a lot more town.

Gonna reconsider this actually. You said it yourself, you don't like bussing.

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Post Post #5235 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:24 pm

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Talk about your Garmr townread.
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Post Post #5236 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:33 pm

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It's pretty late so this is a phone and short.

I believed it from early and haven't particularly reconsidered it since nobody's ever explained why scum Garmr makes that claim so early on for no actual benefit when it's so easy to cause a conflict later. Plus his reaction to Elements' claim. I put him down as I believe this claim and left him there a while ago.
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Post Post #5237 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:36 pm

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I feel like we both know scum me wouldn't have needed to flip my read on you. If we got to lylo you'd have voted the 3rd person based on my townblock tell and your tell that I'm not telling you. Realistically why would I flip on you rather than going for an easier target? I haven't actually pushed you or cased you yet, it's all questions that I don't particularly like your responses or lack of responses to.

Unless you specifically think the scumteam is me/aff/Garmr/Tex then scum me would.have had to be bussing at some point btw.
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Post Post #5238 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:39 pm

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Carcalilly voted you yesterday and put you in her scumpool of 5 today.

Me 'realizing I couldn't push you' would require an attempt to push you.

Real terms- why would I try to 1v1 you/take a super active role when I clearly won't be able to actually follow up with it? It doesn't make sense for scum hop to try and take such an active role as I wouldn't be able to keep it up.

(For context, I dropped out of a weekly thing involving hectic about the same time, until after upcoming exams).

After this week I don't anticipating posting anything except prodges for around 2 weeks.
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Post Post #5239 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:41 pm

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Ugh, fine. I actually completely forgot about Elements bringing up the townblock tell.
Next day please.

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Post Post #5240 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:41 pm

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Scum hop could literally just wait and see if the conf town scumreqd you before dipping his read based on what you're saying? Why benefit do I get from flipping the read then doing nothing to follow up? I could literally just let my scumteam push you instead while continuing to defend you on meta to get towncred.
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Post Post #5241 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:43 pm

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Let it be known that I still think Garmr is the better lynch though.

I have high expectations for your prodges, Hop. I hope they live up to the quality of the Hoptic ones.
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Post Post #5242 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:50 pm

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There's prodges and then there's prodges as an artform. I doubt I'll have time for art.

I'm not saying you should hydra slip and post as hectic without signing posts and post artful prodges or anything like that.
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Post Post #5243 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:50 pm

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Post Post #5244 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:56 pm

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In post 5240, Hopkirk wrote:Scum hop could literally just wait and see if the conf town scumreqd you before dipping his read based on what you're saying? Why benefit do I get from flipping the read then doing nothing to follow up? I could literally just let my scumteam push you instead while continuing to defend you on meta to get towncred.
Well, you gave incentive for the conftown to scumread me after those posts earlier today, since you're in reasonably good standing with them. You opened a door of opportunity for more people to agree to lynching me, and you even talked about who you'd lynch after me (Texcat).
Your flip earlier on me was giving yourself room to scumread and lynch me later, and because the strong townread without good reason was starting to look suspicious/like buddying.
Your scumbuddies aren't going to be able to push me alone that well, due to all the conftown which makes all non-conftown more suspicious.
We're in endgame territory now, so towncred for my flip is irrelevant, the game could be over off of my flip.

That's my thought process if you're scum.
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Post Post #5245 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:59 pm

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In post 5242, Hopkirk wrote:There's prodges and then there's prodges as an artform. I doubt I'll have time for art.

I'm not saying you should hydra slip and post as hectic without signing posts and post artful prodges or anything like that.
I'll be busier too in upcoming weeks. It won't get to prodging though.
Feel free to post the first half of a prodge and give me a knowing nod, and I'll post the second half and return the knowing nod.
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Post Post #5246 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:08 pm

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In post 5224, Hopkirk wrote:
In post 5223, Hopkirk wrote:Tex: Wants to vote Hectic/Hopkirk/Garmr
AFF: Wants to vote Garmr/Hectic/Hopkirk (from what I can tell). Voted Titus with no explanation then quickly recanted it.


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Tex: Wants to vote Hectic/Hopkirk/Garmr
AFF: Wants to vote Garmr/Hectic/Hopkirk (from what I can tell). Voted Titus with no explanation then quickly recanted it.
Titus: Wants to vote Garmr. Does not want to lynch Eevee. Shading me.

Only outlier here is Eevee
Eevee: Wants to lynch Tex/AFF/Garmr/Titus. Has said one of us is probably bad.
VOTE: Titus

From this it's easy to see the scum team want me dead first three are obvious scum eevee and hectic are interchangeable to me after thinking about it.

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Post Post #5247 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:10 pm

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Also for anyone claiming me forgetting my action is bs I could of easily went with (oh yeah I was roleblocked) if I was lying.
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Post Post #5248 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:51 pm

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Sorry. Between Eevee and Titus I'd have to go
VOTE: Titus

This whole Eevee isn't doing shit I can't buy ATM

Also, I do have suspect on Hectic because he's fluffy as fuck, and if I remember somewhat defensive, but low-key enough to not draw too much attention.

I got really busy, have a lot of papers due and stuff. Bug me to post more.
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Post Post #5249 (ISO) » Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:04 am

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In post 5247, Garmr wrote:Also for anyone claiming me forgetting my action is bs I could of easily went with (oh yeah I was roleblocked) if I was lying.
Admitting you were blocked confirms my role, which stops my mislynch and gets you lynched.

Cara, how can you not see how obviously scum Garmr is?
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