Mushroom Kingdom Mafia (Game over!)

skitzer · Post Post #1175 (ISO) » Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:21 am

Give one coin to populartajo.

armlx · Post Post #1176 (ISO) » Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:02 am

Waiting on Riceball's transfer to fail before sending a coin.

goborage · Post Post #1177 (ISO) » Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:38 pm

I think pop is already at 8. Are we planning on making everyone give pop a coin? I can see the merit in the idea as it would take coins away from scum.

Mod: Is there a cap on the number of coins a player can have?

Gremwell · Post Post #1178 (ISO) » Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:45 pm

if we get him a star he could hold everyone's extra coins over night and re distribute them the next day to keep scum from gaining coins from kills. only drawback is if there is some sort of scum coin stealing night ability. . .

populartajo · Post Post #1179 (ISO) » Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:01 pm

Ok. No fishy things here. Im actually gathering a lot of information with that post and the coin pooilng. That was like the first thing I was going to tell you.
The second thing Ill tell you later.
Now,
1)I want to know why Alabaska is so worried to give me coins and
2)how beneficial for town would it be to know the quantity of coins everyone has, creating a way to control the buying of items.
Opinions?

ashmite84 · Post Post #1180 (ISO) » Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:19 pm

populartajo wrote:2)how beneficial for town would it be to know the quantity of coins everyone has, creating a way to control the buying of items.
Opinions?

Very

beneficial.

Alabaska J · Post Post #1181 (ISO) » Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:44 pm

populartajo wrote:1)I want to know why Alabaska is so worried to give me coins

You say stuff like this:

populartajo wrote:The second thing Ill tell you later.

armlx · Post Post #1182 (ISO) » Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:12 pm

if we get him a star he could hold everyone's extra coins over night and re distribute them the next day to keep scum from gaining coins from kills. only drawback is if there is some sort of scum coin stealing night ability. . .

I don't like this. Its practically a mass claim on coins, which I think will help the mafia more then us by far.

Alabaska's distrust of a confirmed townie is odd. Add him to the list.

mr. incrediball · Post Post #1183 (ISO) » Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:50 pm

sorry for being away for a while!

i'm liking the way pop is getting coins. however, i am NOT liking your choice of target.

gremwall seems to be an odd one. he says it's ok for pop to try and nightkill him, even though he knows that if he's town, then the nightkill will fail, wasting a star. If he's scum, he's practically giving himself up, which i don't see a scum doing. but his pro-town line of thinking, well... it isn't very pro-town.

it's a null-tell on his alignment, but if pop hits grem, and he's pro-town, then we've lost a nightkill.

if the aim of the game is to find out grem's alignment, then it would be easier to feather him, no?

or have i got completely the wrong end of of the stick?

p.s. if this star thing works, i fully endorse using it for pop, or another confirmed townie, tomorrow.

Alabaska J · Post Post #1184 (ISO) » Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:54 pm

armlx wrote:Alabaska's distrust of a confirmed townie is odd. Add him to the list.

The only thing I'm afraid of is that there is some hitch to pop's role or maybe the mushroom that we are not aware of. Seeing as he is confirmed town (I in no way think he is scum), I am quite befuddled as to what he can't say right now. I want to know that my coin will not go to waste because of some weird restriction or something. However, once pop says the second thing on his mind that he for some reason believes he cannot say, I will give him a coin if it is still needed.

Cream147 · Post Post #1185 (ISO) » Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:10 pm

mr. incrediball wrote:sorry for being away for a while!

i'm liking the way pop is getting coins. however, i am NOT liking your choice of target.

gremwall seems to be an odd one. he says it's ok for pop to try and nightkill him, even though he knows that if he's town, then the nightkill will fail, wasting a star. If he's scum, he's practically giving himself up, which i don't see a scum doing. but his pro-town line of thinking, well... it isn't very pro-town.

it's a null-tell on his alignment, but if pop hits grem, and he's pro-town, then we've lost a nightkill.

if the aim of the game is to find out grem's alignment, then it would be easier to feather him, no?

or have i got completely the wrong end of of the stick?

p.s. if this star thing works, i fully endorse using it for pop, or another confirmed townie, tomorrow.

You've got a few things wrong here. The star protects popular from death you see, which a feather does not. That is why a star is preferable over a feather. So we are solely looking for Gremwell's alignment (and therefore TSN's alignment at the same time).

Cream147 · Post Post #1186 (ISO) » Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:11 pm

EBWOP: Not necessarily TSN's alignment at the same time actually. If Gremwell is scum, we won't know about TSN. However, if Gremwell is town, we will.

Gimbo · Post Post #1187 (ISO) » Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:15 am

1 stone 2 birds ;D

farside22 · Post Post #1188 (ISO) » Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:24 am

kind of a sucky way to confirm one person.

populartajo · Post Post #1189 (ISO) » Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:57 am

More info pliz!

Gremwell · Post Post #1190 (ISO) » Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:50 am

the star like cream said is to keep pop alive so he can return the verdict and a feather is 5 coins (unless of course your not town) and a star is only 3 more. don't think of it as a night kill, more like a feather shroom combo, and if the feather flips scum then its a kill.

I don't see one thing about that is not pro town. for 8 community coins, and provided we are all alive tomorrow we would have 2 more 100% confirmed townies, and if I'm scum I'd be killed. it's probably the most town thing anyone can ever do. ever.

Cream147 · Post Post #1191 (ISO) » Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:51 am

farside22 wrote:kind of a sucky way to confirm one person.

It confirms 2.

Korts · Post Post #1192 (ISO) » Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:55 am

Dammit, I don't feel like doing a PBPA on farside at all. I just can't concentrate enough. And I'm scared by the sheer volume of this game. Ah well. It looks like we need to analyze Day 1 though, since today everyone seems to be thinking in night actions only.

I was sensing a connection between farside and rogue, to be frank, but I can't put my finger on it yet. I'll do some research, when I can make myself sit down and do the hard part. Ah well.

Alabaska J · Post Post #1193 (ISO) » Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:52 am

Korts wrote:Dammit, I don't feel like doing a PBPA on farside at all. I just can't concentrate enough. And I'm scared by the sheer volume of this game. Ah well. It looks like we need to analyze Day 1 though, since today everyone seems to be thinking in night actions only.

I was sensing a connection between farside and rogue, to be frank, but I can't put my finger on it yet. I'll do some research, when I can make myself sit down and do the hard part. Ah well.

May I suggest reading the posts in isolation? Cuts out a lot of the Gimbo.

Alabaska J · Post Post #1194 (ISO) » Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:07 pm

Holy crap 8 hours w/o a post in day!

NEW RECORD!!!!!!!

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populartajo · Post Post #1195 (ISO) » Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:11 pm

armlx wrote:
if we get him a star he could hold everyone's extra coins over night and re distribute them the next day to keep scum from gaining coins from kills. only drawback is if there is some sort of scum coin stealing night ability. . .
I don't like this. Its practically a mass claim on coins, which I think will help the mafia more then us by far.

Alabaska's distrust of a confirmed townie is odd. Add him to the list.

I have a bad feeling about this post.
Armlx, why do you think a massclaim on coins is bad?

Alabaska J · Post Post #1196 (ISO) » Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:38 pm

populartajo wrote:
armlx wrote:
if we get him a star he could hold everyone's extra coins over night and re distribute them the next day to keep scum from gaining coins from kills. only drawback is if there is some sort of scum coin stealing night ability. . .
I don't like this. Its practically a mass claim on coins, which I think will help the mafia more then us by far.

Alabaska's distrust of a confirmed townie is odd. Add him to the list.
I have a bad feeling about this post.
Armlx, why do you think a massclaim on coins is bad?

Mafia can take out people with a lot of coins, thus putting the down at a disadvantage. Conversely, they can

not

hit people who don't have lots of coins, thus aiding them by not wasting nightkills on unimportant members of the town.

populartajo · Post Post #1197 (ISO) » Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:50 pm

I see. Ive though in you guys giving me all your coins and redistributing in semi confirmed players but I doubt you'll agree with me.
How benefitial would it be for town to know who has no coins? Scum as a reduced group should have at least some coins, right?
My idea of coinclaiming would be that I can see Bowser having a lot of coins as he's the one who probably flowered me yesterday.

armlx · Post Post #1198 (ISO) » Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:08 pm

Armlx, why do you think a massclaim on coins is bad?

Same reasons mass claim early is usually bad, gives scum perfect information while not leaving enough people cleared to win on the spot.

mr. incrediball · Post Post #1199 (ISO) » Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:22 pm

i'm not sure how confirming grem confirms TSN. where does it say the feathers are sanity guaranteed?

(it's a reach, i know. but if we're considering the possibility that gimbo is scum, then why not do the same for TSN?)

i understand the star idea now. unfortunately, now the scum know not to try n kill pop anyway >.<