Mini 610: Ace Attorney Mafia - Game Over!!

[malthusis]

Rishi, the reason why I said that (and why I haven't posted is that on the front page it says that the deadline was actually last Saturday(adjusted for time zones, Sunday). Looking at that, the time I posted was at Friday. I was under the impression that deadline was in 2 days. Looks like I was wrong
As for my three suspects, I really don't have any super scummy right now but if I had to, I would go Joubert (extreme lurker and doesn't post anything meaningful) and maybe slysly or nat.

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Non-Jurors:

**Rishi: (0/7)
Joubert: (1/7) {Mirth}
Matt_S: (0/7)
Natirasha: (0/7)
populartajo: (1/7) {Battle Mage}

Jurors

ChiefSkye4: (0/6, 0/1)
Cream147: (0/6, 0/1)
Gorrad: (0/6, 0/1)
malthusis: (0/6, 1/1) Rishi
Mirth: (1/6, 1/1) {malthusis}, Joubert
SlySly: (1/6, 1/1) {Gorrad}, Matt_S
Battle Mage: (0/6, 1/1) populartajo

Not Voting: (4/12) ChiefSkye4, SlySly, Cream147, Natirasha

Deadline for D1: Sunday July 5, 6:15PM GMT+10
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[malthusis]

EBWOP: Unvote (should have done this a while ago)

Vote: Joubert

[Mirth]

You might want to try that again cause of the lack of bolding. Also, do you have anything else to add, Malth? Besides just echoing the whole "Joubert isn't really playing" thing?

[malthusis]

I have to agree with you on thinking just because Rishi is the defendent does not make him town theory. Also what is a Concordent system?

I'll try this again;

Unvote Vote:Joubert

[Mirth]

I have no idea. I tried looking through Mith's games but I really don't have that much time. I'm assuming it's something like run-off voting.

[Gorrad]

BM, I think it's time to do the concordent thing. Right now, it looks like it's Tajo or Joubert.

[Rishi]

I have no idea. I tried looking through Mith's games but I really don't have that much time. I'm assuming it's something like run-off voting.

Basically, you rank all the people in the game in order of most to least scummy, plug it into a computer and out comes the results.

The results are based on who most people would prefer to lynch. There's a wikipedia article on it that's helpful:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condorcet_voting

[Cream147]

I agree with Gorrad, we need to act now. We only have until Saturday.

[Mirth]

Just one thing. Sly hasn't posted here in a while and we need his vote too to get a lynch.

mod: can you prod Sly if you haven't already?

[Rishi]

If we're going to do condorcet voting, I think even those not on the jury should participate.

[Gorrad]

If we're going to do condorcet voting, I think even those not on the jury should participate.

That's not a bad idea. If you're not jury, go ahead and post your choices. BM, if there's a reason you only wanted jurors, you can discount the non-jurors' votes, but I think it's cool to have both.

[malthusis]

Ok, I'll get the ball rolling (The juror non-juror thing shouldn't matter since I'm a juror anyways)

Scummy

Joubert
Natirasha
Slysly
Tajo
BG/Rishi
Cream
Gorrad
Battle Mage
Matt
ChiefSkye
Mirth
Malthusis

Town

[Mirth]

Wait a second. How am I at the bottom of your scum list now? You were voting for me up until this page. What changed?

[malthusis]

EBWOP: Unvote (should have done this a while ago)

I have voted anyone at all since the argument between you and me all the way back at page 5. I've just forgotten to unvote.You've been pretty much been 1 of the most active people (pro-town) and you have done little, if any scummy things as well as knocked down most scummy arguments against you. You've also been an active scumhunter. I just haven't made a direct post about you since all the way back to the argument, that's all.

[Cream147]

If we're going to do condorcet voting, I think even those not on the jury should participate.

Every single person should participate, and then the jury should vote for the person who 'wins' the vote, no matter what their personal leanings may be. That's what I think anyway. However, if this is to happen, we need to make a move fast.

Just in case it it's needed, I'll do what Malth has done.

Scummy

Tajo
Joubert
Mirth
Slysly
Malthusis
Chiefskye
Gorrad
Matt
Battle Mage
BG/Rishi
Natirasha
Cream147

Town

If there's anything ridiculous about this compared to what I said earlier, please say (I've just copy and pasted malthusis' list and swapped the names around). It would probably mean I've forgot to move said person.

[malthusis]

Cream, why did you put Nat on the bottom of your list?

[Rishi]

Cream, why did you put Nat on the bottom of your list?

Probably because he believes the claim?

[Mirth]

Every single person should participate, and then the jury should vote for the person who 'wins' the vote, no matter what their personal leanings may be. That's what I think anyway. However, if this is to happen, we need to make a move fast.

I'm not sure I agree with this completely. Even if we are the jury, we're still supposed to use out heads.

But I suppose my list of people I'd vote for:

Joubert
Tajo
Battle Mage
Natirasha
Malthusis
Gorrad
Rishi

I am only listing the order going from scummiest to Rishi, because, honestly, this is mainly to find someone who isn't Rishi to lynch, and regardless of who "wins" my vote wouldn't be moving lower than that on my scum list, if Rishi is the default, and I don't particularly feel like sharing my order of "probably not scum"

[Tarmogoyf]

@Malth: Um...why exactly am I on the top of your scum list? Especially over people like Tajo and SlySly?

Anyways, me?

Scummy

Tajo
Mirth
Joubert
Malthusis
Matt
Gorrad
Battle Mage
Rishi
ChiefSkye
Cream
Natirasha

Town

[Tarmogoyf]

EBWOP: The middle fivish are up in the air.

[Natirasha]

That was me. I am in xyzzy's game as a hydra and forgot to log out, sorry.

[malthusis]

I wouldn't really say you are above them, I'd say that you would be tied with slysly. The reason you were high up is that you are sorta lurking throughout the game (Joubert is lurking and not giving a single meaningful post). It would be a very good scum strategy to lurk in this game, as previously stated.

[Natirasha]

I wouldn't really say you are above them, I'd say that you would be tied with slysly. The reason you were high up is that you are sorta lurking throughout the game (Joubert is lurking and not giving a single meaningful post). It would be a very good scum strategy to lurk in this game, as previously stated.

But...you've lurked, too.

[Joubert]

Joubert, metas are fairly important when dealing with some players. Me and BM, for example.

Okay. But I still don't swear by them, anyways. I consider every game an independant entity...

Right now, about what Mirth says on me, we can't have any guarantee as the objectiveness of her comments. From page 11 (at least), it seems like I did go against her personally, yet I don't see where I did such a thing. Maybe a quote would be more informative a this point. It looks like Mirth is in a hurry. Hurry for what?

And that's why I stress on reactions, more than the actual comment that sparked it (although both are usually important, stop arguing). Someone overreacting to a misunderstanding or a seemingly mild comment is bound to be an interesting tell. In occurence, Mirth wants me to be lynched (!) based on these "reasons". Unless I missed something important...

Well, after rading page 17, we've got a quite blatant case of free wagoning by malthusis. I'm accused of "no content" (Mirth, on the other hand, tends to be accused of "too much" content), while malthusis is doing the same, but instead, he's simply complying to vote for me...

[Mirth]

That's a great defense their Joubert: "She's obviously being all OMGUS about it so don't lynch me." This is ignoring the fact that you have accused me of something I didn't do and the fact that I repeatedly asked you to actually participate and you haven't. Malth has been low on content, so has CS, and Cream, and Sly, but you're the only one blatantly refusing to participate. Who do you suspect at least? Who would you like to see lynched and why? Also I'm in a hurry? How? Deadline is in 3 days, or maybe you missed that part.