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[Hectic]

That's amazing. I am forever in your debt, Texcat.

Titus' stance on profii is really odd. Like I get considering the possibility that he could be scum with a traitor in a neighbourhood, but thinking it's likely the case is dubious to say the least.

@Titus: Why'd you vote for Garmr late on yesterday? Earlier, you said he does crazy stuff as town and that you'd very surprised if he flipped scum.

There's this if that's what you mean.

Were you aware this and the posts surrounding it existed when you mentioned me ignoring/supporting that group of people?

[Hectic]

Eevee, Titus, and Garner probably have 2 scum in them, then the last scum is a deep wolf somewhere

That's 4 scum.

[Rick Dalton]

Titus and Garmr are likely scum theatring right now because they’re both in trash spots right now.

I actually think Garmr is scummier than Titus, but could be because i don’t recall much of Titus this game

[Rick Dalton]

Eevee, Titus, and Garner probably have 2 scum in them, then the last scum is a deep wolf somewhere

That's 4 scum.

I overestimated the amount of scum members in a recent game, and I got wrecked because of it. I’ll be wary of more, but I’m gonna be looking at associations in terms of threes.

[Rick Dalton]

Because it still aplli3s if there is more, and not the other way around

[Hopkirk]

Not as much as I thought but it's post 160 to 163 in my ISO.

@Hop: What's your read on me right now?

I have a reasonable reason to townread you based on

reasons

Interactions with likely scum + POE make me concerned. I'd lynch other people first (Eevee, Titus, Garmr).
If Garmr or you are scum then you're probably both scum. Garmr's interactions with you feel different to how he interacts (much more aggressively) with most of the thread.

Currently more likely scum than town on the aggregate.

What's your read on me right now?

[Hopkirk]

I'm thinking 4 of (Eevee, Titus, Garmr, Hectic, Kop) as scumteam.

[Garmr]

Rick your avoiding answering who you doctored?

[Hectic]

Not as much as I thought but it's post 160 to 163 in my ISO.

@Hop: What's your read on me right now?

I have a reasonable reason to townread you based on

reasons

Interactions with likely scum + POE make me concerned. I'd lynch other people first (Eevee, Titus, Garmr).
If Garmr or you are scum then you're probably both scum. Garmr's interactions with you feel different to how he interacts (much more aggressively) with most of the thread.

Currently more likely scum than town on the aggregate.

What's your read on me right now?

Interesting.
Considering reasons, I'm getting massive alarm bells from your flip on me, though I'm currently failing to see the scum-motivation for it.

[Hectic]

Actually, scum-motivation I could see is that you're afraid people would scumread you for your constant buddying of me that you can't really backup. Or, you're setting me up for a lynch further down the road, so you're lowering your read on me a little now instead of doing a complete flip on me 2 days from now.

[Billy Pilgrim]

Eevee flips scum, we're just waiting for his fakeclaim.

Didnt eevee already claim VT yesterday?

[Hopkirk]

I'm trying to limit the amount I consider reasons.

What's your townread on me that you said was your second strongest yesterday and have held the entire game to date? I've been assuming this was also 'reasons'.

[Hopkirk]

Eevee flips scum, we're just waiting for his fakeclaim.

Didnt eevee already claim VT yesterday?

Looks like you're right here.

[Hectic]

A mixture. That and you appeared to be solving/scumhunting, and your memeing early on turning into more serious play rate was consistent with past town games.

[Hectic]

Gonna have to play this mostly in the moment. Not really gonna have the time to reread stuff since editing season is here and the wiki needs my 220wpm.
So here's some gutreads based on memory:
{Kop, Rick, Titus}
{Texcat, Eevee}
{Garmr, AaronFrost, Hopkirk}
{the confirmed}

[Hopkirk]

Given how you reacted to the buddying from 'A' then other day (instant lockscum) I was getting surprised how strongly you townread me unless you assumed I was just memeing with my entire read on you.

[Hectic]

Never mind, this is terrible, can't really explain my reads for half of those.

[texcat]

Eevee flips scum, we're just waiting for his fakeclaim.

We already have Garmr's fake claim, and I think Eevee claimed VT.

Rick your avoiding answering who you doctored?

Who did you watch last night? Are you avoiding that question?

[Hectic]

Given how you reacted to the buddying from 'A' then other day (instant lockscum) I was getting surprised how strongly you townread me unless you assumed I was just memeing with my entire read on you.

The buddying from A was extremely artificial and had no good reasons. And there were times where I asked him to give me chancellor/or vote Ja for my presidency since he townreads me, and I'd see annoyance/reluctance from him but he had to do it because he "townread me".
I didn't think you were memeing, I just thought you were using R.

[Titus]

I'm thinking 4 of (Eevee, Titus, Garmr, Hectic, Kop) as scumteam.

Great then help me bus. Garmr fake claim is to let him coast.

[Hectic]

Never mind, this is terrible, can't really explain my reads for half of those.

@Carcalilly:

Help and I'll give you a nice wiki edit.

[Hopkirk]

I feel like at this point it's fairly obvious to everyone that neither Garmr/Rick wants to be the first one to say whether or not Rick was on X player because

a.) their 'claim' could be proven false based on the result
or
b.) they want to catch the other out

We (Carca/Billy/Dave) should decide which of them claims their result first rather than it being whichever one gives in first.

[Hectic]

I'm thinking 4 of (Eevee, Titus, Garmr, Hectic, Kop) as scumteam.

Great then help me bus. Garmr fake claim is to let him coast.

Why is Garmr scum again? Last I recall, people were townreading him for his wildly erratic behaviour.

[Hectic]

I think Hopkirk might be scum here actually. Bump him up by 1.2ish on my reads list.
Just can't understand the reasoning for your flip considering the strength of J.

[AaronFrost]

Wait, we have a doc claim. We had one pr that wasnt suspected (Profii) Why is the doc believable?

Also, mass claim happens now.

I want Rick and Titus first.

I believe Rick claimed doc