mini #585 - A Tempest Has Formed (Over), Thanks Patrick!!

[populartajo]

Hi Xtoxm are you the SK?

This post indicates that you already know that he is not in the mafia, and/or you are not interested in knowing if he is in the mafia. Trying to find the SK and not mafia is a mafia-tell.

This post indicates that you arent reading the thread or that you need some sleep.
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Skruffs, what do you think of my Elias case?

[Cream147]

Hi Xtoxm are you the SK?

This post indicates that you already know that he is not in the mafia, and/or you are not interested in knowing if he is in the mafia. Trying to find the SK and not mafia is a mafia-tell.

You are a funny bunny. Just to tell you straight out what you got wrong, popular suspected gaspode of being SK. Hence, he suspects Xtoxm of the same thing. I see no mafia-tells in that from where I'm sitting.

[Elias_the_thief]

Already sent to the mod, but figured I'd post here too.

Starting monday, I'll be working at an overnight summer camp, and I'll probably only be able to post on weekends. If this is a problem, I can understand and will accept replacement, though I'd like to stay in the game. Sorry for the inconvenience.

I'm home now until sunday because of unforeseen medical problems, but due to the circumstances I won't be able to post exactly (I'll be heavily sedated most of the next couple days). So yeah. Just thought everyone should know I'll be inactive.

[populartajo]

Already sent to the mod, but figured I'd post here too.

Starting monday, I'll be working at an overnight summer camp, and I'll probably only be able to post on weekends. If this is a problem, I can understand and will accept replacement, though I'd like to stay in the game. Sorry for the inconvenience.

I'm home now until sunday because of unforeseen medical problems, but due to the circumstances I won't be able to post exactly (I'll be heavily sedated most of the next couple days). So yeah. Just thought everyone should know I'll be inactive.

That's sad Elias. I was having a lot of fun geting you angry.
Actually I already know why you are scum.

[Xtoxm]

Ok, i've largely read the game from around page 23.

I don't see why there has to be an SK? Does someone have info as such? Please explain.

Also, I don't believe Coheed. Why investigate someone who claimed doc?

vote Coheed

[Xtoxm]

Just realised, with a GF dead, this confirms cop's prescence...So

unvote

without a counter.

[Matt_S]

Just realised, with a GF dead, this confirms cop's prescence...So

unvote

without a counter.

Not necessarily. My complete game as scum had a godfather with no cop. He was immune to nightkills.

[Xtoxm]

Huh, just checked the first post and you are right, could be. Still, it's usually invesitigation, as i've never seen that one before, so i'd rather wait.

[Xtoxm]

Elias was one I didn't like so much when I first started reading, as he was lurking at the time...However, he has started contributing a fair bit since.

Cream was another one I didn't like...I think i've forgotten why.

vote Cream

[iamausername]

Cream was another one I didn't like...I think i've forgotten why.

vote Cream

This is a good case.

[Skruffs]

You forgot... immediately after reading?

Cream: You don't need to defend popular - it looks bad on you if he gets lynched as scum. I read through popular's posts and he doesn't once seem to focus on Gaspode.
He says that I am l likely scum, he says that you are likely NOT scum, and he says that he thinks Elias is scum.
If you are referring to this post:

In conclusion and for the people who hate to read.

Possible nonscumpartners (take in count that they could be the SK) :
Evilgorrilaz, Gaspode, Marmalade, Cream, Matt_s.

Possible scumpartners (they could also be the SK) : imausername, Coheed (I forgot he claimed cop so Im wating for his response), Skruffs, Elias the thief.

Possible SK : Gaspode, Cream.

I only based this post in Alvinz actions so if you want to post anything sincere about your relationship with Alvinz that could help us to reduce the possibilities, go ahead.

Im deciding Elias relationship with Alvinz is too strange to be true. Here we go again.

Vote : Elias the thief

I wouldn't take this post to say that PopTajo *thinks* Gaspode is the Sk. Rather, he is saying in this post that you and gaspode are not likely partners of Alvinz, but he is making sure not to clear them by saying they aren't scum at all; he lists them distinctly as possible SKs.

Fos: Cream147

You just gave PopularTajo an "out" by defending him like that, while at the same time suggesting there was no reason to think that Pop.Taj. was doing anything wrong in the first place. Overly defensive while trying to be nonchalant? Scumtell.

[Skruffs]

And nobody should vote Coheed at all, today, regardless of if you think he's telling the truth. No matter what he is, he's not very likely to make it through the night, because both scum groups will probably target him.

[Xtoxm]

You forgot... immediately after reading?

My short term memory is poor.

because both scum groups will probably target him.

Please...What has given us

any

indication there are multiple scum groups? There was one kill last night. Implies to me one scum group. Ie, mafia.

Alvinz was scum, so if it's based off that it's not worth giving any thought to, he was probably just trying to spread confusion, if anything. I do not buy that there could be a scum group of just 2.

[Cream147]

Fos: Cream147

You just gave PopularTajo an "out" by defending him like that, while at the same time suggesting there was no reason to think that Pop.Taj. was doing anything wrong in the first place. Overly defensive while trying to be nonchalant? Scumtell.

Like you wouldn't have asked why your comment was so stupid. Seriously, I know what it feels like to be proved wrong (I hate it). Just gotta get over it.

Also, both popular and matt said your comment was silly, I just explained exactly why, because you would've asked.

On another note, xtoxm, thanks for your vote. Unfortunately, 'I've forgotten why' is really hard for me to defend, so if you'd like to come up with a reason, that would be lovely.

[iamausername]

You all wake up to a bright and sunny day 2, to find that Mellowed Man has been murdered; even as murder victims go, he doesn't look good. He has a bullet lodged in his brain and appears to have been stabbed multiple times. It's not clear which of these killed him first, but

it seems that he was targetted by more than one party

... You all search his home, expecting to find medical instruments and/or drugs (strictly medicinal of course...), but none of these things materialise. Mellowed Man wasn't a doctor, just a normal citizen of the town.

Mellowed Man - Vanilla Townie - killed night 1

It is day 2. With 10 alive, it's 6 to lynch!

This has been discussed quite a lot since D2 started, Xtoxm.

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Skruffs; when you placed alvinz as top three scummiest, what was your reasoning for doing so? Why did you find him suspicious at that time?

[Xtoxm]

Ah...Thanks, iam. Didn't read the night scene's flavour...And I did see discussion, but wasn't sure where it had come from.

I now understand..

And, there's no way I believe a vig will have targeted a claimed doc, so yeh, we got an SK...

Cream: Don't usually oblige to someone I think is scum, but in this case I shall

[Cream147]

Cream: Don't usually oblige to someone I think is scum, but in this case I shall

Well at least you made me laugh.

[Xtoxm]

I think this was it:

Cream147: hasn't posted anything besides a random vote. Prod?

He has been strongly against Alvinz for some part of D1. This almost confirms him as not his scumpartner but he could be the SK for backtracking after their argument.

I disagreed with this clearing of cream this way, and I didn't like the way Alvinz said little about him, and asked for a prod. The way he said I thought could sound like talking to a scum partner.

[Xtoxm]

However, I now realise what the first part of what pop said means, I thought it meant something else before.

I'm not sure if this means anything. I think i'd have to agree that strong bussing of your GF is unlikely.

[Patrick]

Votecount

Elias_the_thief (2) -- populartajo, Alabaska J
Skruffs (1) -- iamausername
Cream147 (1) -- Xtoxm

Not voting: Elias_the_thief, Cream147, CoheedCambria09, Porochaz, Matt_S, Skruffs
10 alive, 6 to lynch.

[populartajo]

I repeat, I dont see Alvinz and Cream (notable newbies) fighting each other to death if they were both scum. It seems improbable to me. Therefore, Cream is prob town.
Doesnt anyone want to know how I just found out Elias is scum?

[CoheedCambria09]

yes, please explain and enlighten us.

[Matt_S]

I think i'd have to agree that strong bussing of your GF is unlikely.

I'd think the same thing if I hadn't done the same thing before.

[Alabaska J]

pop stop being anti-town and just tell us everything you are thinking instead of just saying stupid shit like that :/

[Porochaz]

Hey everyone, been really busy with work and writing minutes for stuff, dedicated my lunch to reading through this. So Im half way and 15 minutes over my lunch... will get finished soon.