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[Alchemist21]

TSE, why do you think yurkin is town then?

TSE, why do you think yurkin is town then?

Well take a look at my walls of Numbers.
You’ll see Yurkin is in a Town Number Side.
Why you ask?
Because they have good content.
Most of Their posts have been really Townie.
I don’t see any wolfy posts in their ISO.

Not sure why Alchemist is pushing them TBH.
Their ISO is Null for Me RN as allot of their posts were not alignment indicative or they balanced out to Null.
I’ll Definitely Consider voting between Alchemist/Yurkin when Flubbernugget is lynched.
Although if I’m being completely honest. I’d rather vote Alchemist Over Yurkin almost always here.

What posts exactly do you think are good content from them?

[Doctor Drew]

Pisskop tell me about your meta, are you considered scummy player?

I 'like' scum roles, and enjoy them on occasion.
I 'lurk' or 'shitpost' a lot as either alignment.
I have a pretty good grasp on my meta, though with so many games under my belt I could theoretically cherrypick several games for any selfmeta.


idk what you want, are you asking me for self meta or an honest analysis?

Your recent meta would be the most useful I think.

You want them to explain their meta to you?

You realize how easy, and pisskop more or less admitted, that they know their meta..... to manipulate your own meta. What are we gaining from you asking them to provide?

If you really want it, search out their games. But your 'meta inquiry' comes off as disingenuous to me

I wasn't the one who originally asked them for their meta. I just didn't like how he didn't give a concrete answer. Yeah he probably has a bunch of games but the important ones are their most recent games. Picking really old games would make it obvious that they are cherry picking so i don't think their argument hold.

And I say again, it is very easy to search out any of our most recent games for meta sake.

Knock yourself with mine if you would like.

But for now, VOTE: Crimson

Pre Edit: I think Yurkin has less scum equity than crimson/lavender....and crimson seems the most obvscum.

Also, what is the case on flubb again?

[yurkin]

what is so questionable in yurkin's posts? seems fine to me.

Well there’s the RVS unvote followed by a weak FOS.

UNVOTE:

Hello everybody. VOTE: pisskop because you are at the top of the player list and I wanted that spot.

FoS on you, stiff entrance

This plus the meta inquiry both look like they don’t actually intend to scumhunt, just look like they are.

You don't know why I'm unvoting first
Second meta inquiry was to get general grasp of PK because TrueSoulEnergy, someone I know and have played with, was especially excluding PK

You are big cherry picker, hope they were tasty

Uuh what has the FoS to do with Anything?

[yurkin]

what is so questionable in yurkin's posts? seems fine to me.

Well there’s the RVS unvote followed by a weak FOS.

UNVOTE:

Hello everybody. VOTE: pisskop because you are at the top of the player list and I wanted that spot.

FoS on you, stiff entrance

This plus the meta inquiry both look like they don’t actually intend to scumhunt, just look like they are.

yeah, i can see it
i looked deeper into it
unvote i can see as yurkin trying to pocket me, since we played before, just how i felt like jamelia was trying to pocket/overreacted to egix randomvoting them too
i dont agree with yurkins fos but i dont think its suspicious
meta inquiry i didnt have a problem with at all, there will be people who will be less experienced/more memey and are in general more scummy so asking that i dont see as too bad
what i did have a problem with is crimson butting in and asking for meta

Eeh nothing from your content made me unvote you
It's 0% percent pocket but calling it pocket attempt is actually fishy

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I don't really see yurkin's post as scummy but that wagon was interesting.

There’s at least 1 Scum on it.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

TSE, why do you think yurkin is town then?

TSE, why do you think yurkin is town then?

Well take a look at my walls of Numbers.
You’ll see Yurkin is in a Town Number Side.
Why you ask?
Because they have good content.
Most of Their posts have been really Townie.
I don’t see any wolfy posts in their ISO.

Not sure why Alchemist is pushing them TBH.
Their ISO is Null for Me RN as allot of their posts were not alignment indicative or they balanced out to Null.
I’ll Definitely Consider voting between Alchemist/Yurkin when Flubbernugget is lynched.
Although if I’m being completely honest. I’d rather vote Alchemist Over Yurkin almost always here.

What posts exactly do you think are good content from them?

I’d say all of them that I remember.
What’s something that they actually said that pings them scummy to you?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I don't really see yurkin's post as scummy but that wagon was interesting.

There’s at least 1 Scum on it.

Either that or town just wanted to follow a wagon and choose Yurkin’s.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Pisskop tell me about your meta, are you considered scummy player?

I 'like' scum roles, and enjoy them on occasion.
I 'lurk' or 'shitpost' a lot as either alignment.
I have a pretty good grasp on my meta, though with so many games under my belt I could theoretically cherrypick several games for any selfmeta.


idk what you want, are you asking me for self meta or an honest analysis?

Your recent meta would be the most useful I think.

You want them to explain their meta to you?

You realize how easy, and pisskop more or less admitted, that they know their meta..... to manipulate your own meta. What are we gaining from you asking them to provide?

If you really want it, search out their games. But your 'meta inquiry' comes off as disingenuous to me

I wasn't the one who originally asked them for their meta. I just didn't like how he didn't give a concrete answer. Yeah he probably has a bunch of games but the important ones are their most recent games. Picking really old games would make it obvious that they are cherry picking so i don't think their argument hold.

And I say again, it is very easy to search out any of our most recent games for meta sake.

Knock yourself with mine if you would like.

But for now, VOTE: Crimson

Pre Edit: I think Yurkin has less scum equity than crimson/lavender....and crimson seems the most obvscum.

Also, what is the case on flubb again?

I even reposted this.
And you still didn’t see it?
Also why is Crimson Obv Scum?

No Fam.
From what I gathered so far. Yurkin is Town.
pisskop - 2
Flubbernugget - 7
Emperor flippyNips - 5
Doctor Drew - 4
Joan of Arc - 5
Egix96 - 6
TrueSoulEnergy - 0 (Because IK)
yurkin - 3
Crimson97 - 5
Lavender - 5
Gyro Zeppeli - 5
Blatant Scum - 3
Jamelia - 6
MicroChip8328 - 5
YodaVader - 5
Alchemist21 - 4
Very cool and not mafia - 2

I’ll get off of Microchips for now.

/Vote Flubbernugget

They are saying “I won’t be Lynch today”
They are claiming they don’t want to help out
They said Debil’s post was Dumb (although I counted that Null it’s still a pretty bad look)
They are shading Debil with this post here:

so you are fakeclaiming is what im getting
cool beans

You can shoot me d1 and confirm half my role or get the whole flip d2. Why are you being so simplistic?

Plus they are saying that Vigilante May no exist, which ok? But why are you trying to make yourself look untouchable?
This is a better Lynch then Yurkin IMO.

In case anyone forgot.
Here’s the better lynch.

[yurkin]

FYI, disagreeing with FoS is more likely faking scum hunting

I was asked to play here, I don't die from desire to do so.
Everyone beside TrueSoulEnergy, Debil and Flubbernugget that I have read a game he played in, are basically unknown
Self meta is not pointless when you play with new people. If fact I took mode meaningful information out of PK compared to the time prior of the question. With how the game was dead beforehand

[yurkin]

My problem with the FOS is that they were willing to put down a meaningless vote in RVS but they aren’t voting a real suspicion when their vote isn’t on anyone.

FoS exist for a reason, I'll use it however I please

[yurkin]

asking whether a person is considered more scummy and only fos'ing instead of pushing i can see as insecure scum tho
but i think i like to focus on jamelia rn just due to the wagon on yurkin and i want to cover more ground

Hedging and a lot

[Alchemist21]

Uuh what has the FoS to do with Anything?

You were willing to place a vote for no reason, so why, while your vote was not on anyone, did you not vote someone you had suspicion on?

You can explain the unvote too but the unvote is the least relevant part of my argument; the unvote just highlights the fact that you had no reason not to vote the person you FOS’d because your vote was not tied to anyone.

[yurkin]

what is so questionable in yurkin's posts? seems fine to me.

id say jamelia/flubber/yurkin isnt a bad lynchpool rn

what made you change your mind so quickly? did I miss something?

He's hedging like crazy that's why

[Alchemist21]

TSE, why do you think yurkin is town then?

TSE, why do you think yurkin is town then?

Well take a look at my walls of Numbers.
You’ll see Yurkin is in a Town Number Side.
Why you ask?
Because they have good content.
Most of Their posts have been really Townie.
I don’t see any wolfy posts in their ISO.

Not sure why Alchemist is pushing them TBH.
Their ISO is Null for Me RN as allot of their posts were not alignment indicative or they balanced out to Null.
I’ll Definitely Consider voting between Alchemist/Yurkin when Flubbernugget is lynched.
Although if I’m being completely honest. I’d rather vote Alchemist Over Yurkin almost always here.

What posts exactly do you think are good content from them?

I’d say all of them that I remember.
What’s something that they actually said that pings them scummy to you?

I’ve already answered this.

[yurkin]

Uuh what has the FoS to do with Anything?

You were willing to place a vote for no reason, so why, while your vote was not on anyone, did you not vote someone you had suspicion on?

You can explain the unvote too but the unvote is the least relevant part of my argument; the unvote just highlights the fact that you had no reason not to vote the person you FOS’d because your vote was not tied to anyone.

Doesn't mafiascum has random vote stage existing? Calling rvs pointless and meaningless really doesn't mean much of anything as argument. Already answered that minute ago.

Also I vote whenever I please
I'd say you focus on something else, I still can't figure out if that's town concert or scum faking solving

[yurkin]

Really, insulting your own random vote stage is no good. Tho I'd admit I've done so before years on MC, my current opinion sees it as lazy backing up of arguments

[Very cool and not mafia]

what is so questionable in yurkin's posts? seems fine to me.

id say jamelia/flubber/yurkin isnt a bad lynchpool rn

what made you change your mind so quickly? did I miss something?

He's hedging like crazy that's why

thats not hedging lmao

[Very cool and not mafia]

im literally saying you are scummy and asked TSE why he thinka you are towny.

also TSE, strange that you can show examples on other townleans but when it comes to yurkin you struggle to show examples

[Alchemist21]

Uuh what has the FoS to do with Anything?

You were willing to place a vote for no reason, so why, while your vote was not on anyone, did you not vote someone you had suspicion on?

You can explain the unvote too but the unvote is the least relevant part of my argument; the unvote just highlights the fact that you had no reason not to vote the person you FOS’d because your vote was not tied to anyone.

Doesn't mafiascum has random vote stage existing? Calling rvs pointless and meaningless really doesn't mean much of anything as argument. Already answered that minute ago.

Also I vote whenever I please
I'd say you focus on something else, I still can't figure out if that's town concert or scum faking solving

Really, insulting your own random vote stage is no good. Tho I'd admit I've done so before years on MC, my current opinion sees it as lazy backing up of arguments

Again you failed to address the main point of my argument. Why did you FOS instead of vote?

[yurkin]

im literally saying you are scummy and asked TSE why he thinka you are towny.

also TSE, strange that you can show examples on other townleans but when it comes to yurkin you struggle to show examples

But you were hedging beforehand as if to fake progression, where in fact you only sheep alchemist

[yurkin]

Uuh what has the FoS to do with Anything?

You were willing to place a vote for no reason, so why, while your vote was not on anyone, did you not vote someone you had suspicion on?

You can explain the unvote too but the unvote is the least relevant part of my argument; the unvote just highlights the fact that you had no reason not to vote the person you FOS’d because your vote was not tied to anyone.

Doesn't mafiascum has random vote stage existing? Calling rvs pointless and meaningless really doesn't mean much of anything as argument. Already answered that minute ago.

Also I vote whenever I please
I'd say you focus on something else, I still can't figure out if that's town concert or scum faking solving

Really, insulting your own random vote stage is no good. Tho I'd admit I've done so before years on MC, my current opinion sees it as lazy backing up of arguments

Again you failed to address the main point of my argument. Why did you FOS instead of vote?

I have a reason I don't want to place a vote that's why

[yurkin]

Uuh what has the FoS to do with Anything?

You were willing to place a vote for no reason, so why, while your vote was not on anyone, did you not vote someone you had suspicion on?

You can explain the unvote too but the unvote is the least relevant part of my argument; the unvote just highlights the fact that you had no reason not to vote the person you FOS’d because your vote was not tied to anyone.

Doesn't mafiascum has random vote stage existing? Calling rvs pointless and meaningless really doesn't mean much of anything as argument. Already answered that minute ago.

Also I vote whenever I please
I'd say you focus on something else, I still can't figure out if that's town concert or scum faking solving

Really, insulting your own random vote stage is no good. Tho I'd admit I've done so before years on MC, my current opinion sees it as lazy backing up of arguments

Again you failed to address the main point of my argument. Why did you FOS instead of vote?

And again FoS exist for a reason, I don't need to be reactive with my votes to play the game

[Alchemist21]

What is that reason?

[yurkin]

im literally saying you are scummy and asked TSE why he thinka you are towny.

also TSE, strange that you can show examples on other townleans but when it comes to yurkin you struggle to show examples

I can bring out your iso to show you were not doing that. Game hasn't been all that long are you sure you want to lie

[yurkin]

What is that reason?

It doesn't concerns you