Alisae V Pine: Trees Apparently Make Good Treestumps

[Gamma Emerald]

That forced Gamma to take a more direct approach

I don't think you have an accurate picture of how I've handled Cephrir. When I took him on it wasn't to push him, it was to force him to define his statements. Look at what I posted at him again, tell me if that looks like trying to push a scumread on Cephrir.

[Gamma Emerald]

i wish gamma had discernibly alignment told. he hasn't...like, done anything of much substance in such a long time and it's super frustrating.

What does "anything of substance" even mean?

[Gamma Emerald]

SS got anything to add?

[Something_Smart]

If you were me I'd be deathtunneling you.

I don't know how much that counts for.

[Gamma Emerald]

Huh?

[Something_Smart]

You're playing a lot like how I play as scum. Given that you and I are fairly similar players, it's concerning.

[Gamma Emerald]

Are we that similar? I think you are generally more reserved.

[Something_Smart]

I mean, if you were to put everyone on the site on a scale from "plays like me" to "plays nothing like me" you'd definitely be closer to the former than most people.

How would you describe the difference between your towngame and your scumgame?

[Gamma Emerald]

I think the core difference is that as town I am bolder, there are probably other minor differences too

[Cephrir]

i wish gamma had discernibly alignment told. he hasn't...like, done anything of much substance in such a long time and it's super frustrating.

this feels weird but looking back at krazy's posting previous to lylo i actually can kinda jam with a townread of him. i just think it's super vexing i asked ico to towncase three townreads, he presented to heavily towncase the one i was the last interested in, then give really sketchy summary reads on the ones i'm actually worried ico could be scum with.

ico's krazy case also feels closer to tmi than scum defending scum (probably closer to t!ico/s!krazy than s/s), like he's intentionally just casually hopped over the bits of krazy's and ceph's posting which had me worried and done the

he's just town duuuuuddddeeee

argument

someone please bounce this back to me - i think ico is actually scum here

It's definitely noteworthy. I think I dont care for where icons chose to focus, but at the same time I can see town glimmers in the way he posted a read list and then more or less let you destroy it and disagreed with himself, since scum like to be consistent
Also if I'm honest I like that hes managed to make you reconsider the mislynch on me, since town or scum hes most likely right that scum need a mislynch of my slot to win
I still think hes scum on balance but I think I net come out liking this sequence from someone who's disengaged

[Something_Smart]

I think the core difference is that as town I am bolder, there are probably other minor differences too

What have you done that was bold this game besides boldly outing your watch result in order to test Alisae?

[Cephrir]

in fact, why even read his posts, other than for possible humor value?

Spew/antispew? It's actually pretty relevant to the game?
Why do you think it's so foolish to read what Pine says?

I think theres a huge difference here. With a regular scum, they're trying to look town and have to survive, and as a result they may give up awkward interactions and such in the effort.
Pine has no goal other than to play mind games with us. If he didnt think a post would ultimately advance scum wincon, he would not make the post. I dont believe anyone can confidently say they can get anything useful from someone like that. At best it's a coin flip whether your mind games are better than pine's, but we can't influence him while he can influence us. more likely he will manage to get some insidious thoughts into our heads even if we read them with skepticism. Seeds of wrong ideas and paranoia.
Also I would absolutely say this if I were scum too, i dont give false opinions on theory unless i have to

[Something_Smart]

Here Gamma, I'll level with you. In your recent posts I see a lot of trying to shift other people's opinions and/or perceptions. But I don't see you trying to change your own very much.

This may not be a scumtell for aggressive players who formulate reads, push the shit out of them, and then see what happens. But for less aggressive and more reactive players, like me-- and I think, like you, though I may be wrong-- this can belie an interest in controlling the game rather than solving it, which is scummy.

[Cephrir]

In what world does Cephrir not give his honest opinion on whether it's a good idea to listen to Pine?

It can be his honest opinion but something about his adamance strikes me as wrong.

Ur welcome to ur opinion but from a theory POV I think this is extremely cut and dry

[Cephrir]

It can be his honest opinion but something about his adamance strikes me as wrong.

Do you know what about it feels wrong?

It seems like even if that is his honest belief, he is presenting it in a way that seems more based towards influencing others than expressing his own practice.

Yeah straight up I dont think you guys should either
If someone pulls out vca you can expect me to have a similar reaction - I will shame them for using it and try to convince everyone not to listen to them

It's a lot easier to have strong opinions about theory because the are no unknown variables

[Cephrir]

As for reads I'm not confident about any scumreads, Cephrir and Dann are kinda where my thoughts are leading though

My thoughts on theory turned your townread into a scumread?

Surely my other actions and Krazy's should be forming the basis of a read. :/

[Menalque]

We really need to lynch ceph today tbh

[Cephrir]

thank u for your nuanced approach and refreshingly protown mindset

[Menalque]

Ur welcome

[Gamma Emerald]

I think the core difference is that as town I am bolder, there are probably other minor differences too

What have you done that was bold this game besides boldly outing your watch result in order to test Alisae?

I think my approach to the fruits I've chased has been somewhat bold, whilst I have asked about whether I should it was mainly to know if anyone else had a reason for me not to, or to get on the same page with what the plan for them was. Outside of that nothing else comes to mind, but I have been in various stages of ersatz throughout the game.

[Gamma Emerald]

As for reads I'm not confident about any scumreads, Cephrir and Dann are kinda where my thoughts are leading though

My thoughts on theory turned your townread into a scumread?

Surely my other actions and Krazy's should be forming the basis of a read. :/

It's not to the point of a scumread yet, but I do think I want to sort the two of you/lynch whoever within you two I think is scum today.

[Jingle]

We are now officially the second largest Large game on site.

[Pine]

We are now officially the second largest Large game on site.

Technically the count starts at D1 start, so there’s a few posts to go, but...yeah.

Fite me, Civ Mafia

[Something_Smart]

ersatz

*googles*
"Not real or genuine"

[Something_Smart]

Random emotes why.