Alisae V Pine: Trees Apparently Make Good Treestumps

[Pine]

So’s your face

[Alisae]

[Alisae]

Oh wait

[Alisae]

What if the information was that pine can only give fruit to scum once.
That’da be wack

[Alisae]

Yo Pine instead of giving the fruit, you should out what exactly the fruit informs the user of.

[Wooper]

what if we let him boycott a lynch today

[Alisae]

Question
How do I meet people

[Dannflor]

Question
How do I meet people

find and go to events/clubs/websites/classes for interests/hobbies you have and bond with people through said hobby

[Alisae]

[Wooper]

step 1: suppress social anxiety
step 2: i'll let you know when i find it

[Iconeum]

what if we let him boycott a lynch today

what if we just don't bargain with him, and especially not for a fruit from which he previously said is scared to give out

and is now giving out

from which we do not know the drawback

[Wooper]

hiconeum.
can you just vomit reads on the thread for a bit?

[Iconeum]

Ico / i'm a town dragon
Dunn / mason confirmed town
SS / mech conf town
Wooper / pretty much mech conf town
PB / My top townread - if there's popular demand i can case this
Dann / i don't think the Dann v Krazy battles were S/S. It got heated way too much for that, ending up in Krazy leaving. I know Krazy a little, he wouldn't tactically replace out to 'fake' this. Probably.
Ceyphir / replacement for Krazy. Same story, and I think Ceyphir has only added to my townread since his replace in. Scumreads me, but of all players scumreading me, I feel Ceyphir actually came to this conclusion instead of

wanting

to scumread me

Maria / I don't know. Doc? Fake claim doc? I suppose fake claimed doc because the tracker said going nowhere. If Maria is actually a doc then...
GE / Has to be scum, don't know who else could be scum unless i'm really wrong with my townreads. However, if Fire flips scum I think this is most likely town.
Menalque / more PoE then anything else, tho I don't like how he's been interacting with Pine to get the Informed Fruit.
Fire / His push against me today screamed 'I think Ico is a more realistic lynch then GE'.

[Wooper]

So you think Fire/GE aren't w/w - GE town before Fire I'm guessing?

Could you case as many of {dann, ceph, GE} for me as you have time for? I've been swinging away from the holistic solve for a good year now but if Ali's and Dunn's most compelling cases are correct your PoE is

Maria - Ali meta clear
Mena - Dunn meta clear
Fire - not w/w with GE
GE - not w/w with Fire

which makes me think you're townreading roughly 2-3 scum

[Wooper]

accept "meta clear" isn't mechanical but you can see why an holistic solve leaves you as scum 90% of the time right?

[Iconeum]

Spoiler:

Penguin and Ico are probably both scum lynched as well

Scum are probably:
Gamma
Iconeum
Penguinpower
MariaR
The worst

And either mena or dannyboi
And I am leaning on mena but only because I love dannyboi

so btw since there are only 5 scum left i am revising this to:

gamma
iconeum
penguinpower
mariar
mena

How good am i!?!

We're lynching in PB/dann or at least I am. I guess I'd vote fire too but only those 3

we are lynching iconeum, u frickin noob

VOTE: Iconeum

how is iconeum not in ur poe?

ICONEUM MENTIONS PENGUINPOWER, ONE TIME IN HIS ENTIRE ISO!

Wait, did iconeum call that out? I should go look at that. Town!iconeum def would have called that out and if he didn't that just confirms to me this is scum!icon

honestly he probably points it out if it IS theater.

shut the fuck up. Iconeum calls that out if he is town.

So alisae ur telling me u think Iconeum, sees a player scumread him. And by all accounts penguinpower is just drifting in the game not doing much, and just ignores that completely and puts him in "I see nothing scummy from this". That is what you think town!iconeum does?

This is the story we go with?

Like, I think that after PP's lynch, the scumteam is ready to buss FB and FB is ready to throw us some curves before dying. Ico is that curve, I don't remember FB talking about Ico until now.

Ico has been in my lynch pool since day 2

i am thinking of doing icon next because he has the fewest posts and i saw one post of his during dann iso that i didn't like

I also made a case for how penguin and ico make sense as a team.

what, because they both lurked?

i may be interested in reading this but not before i do any isoing i'm going to do

No, ico gave penguin a townread while penguin pushed ico. It’s just not in line with ico not to push back against that as town unless they are teamed and doing some shitty bussing

Most of this is shading over actual scumreading.
He made is scumlist of
gamma
iconeum
penguinpower
mariar
mena

and now has to push whoever he thinks is more likely to get lynched today

the only posts that hold substance is how he thinks i should react to the scumread PP had on me
which is WIFOM to begin with

[Wooper]

I believe in your towngame so much dude
I watched you turn SC:LotV from a stomp into a town win
like you picked the game losing mislynch, turned their frown upside down, and lead the town into an hilarious win when an unkillable scum stump had basically wrecked town WIM

you're wrong here and I think you know that readpost you just dropped down isn't up to scratch. I think town gaining a day has probably fucked scum WIM pretty hard. I expect Pine is scrambling for a clutch play to turn the gamestate back around. You coasting through with a crap solve and hoping we lynch into a PoE which clearly has 1+ town in it clearly fits better with a scum agenda than a town agenda.

If you're town this is the time to flip it around so you can claim endgaming TWO unkillable scum stumps


pedit: note I explicitly didn't ask you for a fireb read - I'm not interested in a fireb read, I know his d6 has been shite

[Firebringer]

Most of this is shading over actual scumreading.

ur probably gonna have to do better than that man.

[Wooper]

Most of this is shading over actual scumreading.

ur probably gonna have to do better than that man.

I keep agreeing with people I want to murder this phase is awful

[Iconeum]

So you think Fire/GE aren't w/w - GE town before Fire I'm guessing?

Could you case as many of {dann, ceph, GE} for me as you have time for? I've been swinging away from the holistic solve for a good year now but if Ali's and Dunn's most compelling cases are correct your PoE is

Maria - Ali meta clear
Mena - Dunn meta clear
Fire - not w/w with GE
GE - not w/w with Fire

which makes me think you're townreading roughly 2-3 scum

I think Fire had to choose between Ico/GE as best options for lynch today, thus yeah I think GE is town if fire flips scum. They are not S/S.
I know I might be wrong in Dann/Krazy battle, and I haven't forgotten your thoughts about Krazy's ill minded push. I just didn't read it like that

[Wooper]

Case what you saw
I wanna see someone talk through how that Krazy push was towny
I wanna see someone talk through how Ceph is towny

I hate poe/stagnancy gimme some spice

[Firebringer]

ur only scumread can't be just me dude. What else u got.

[Firebringer]

I made a case on Gamma and I made a case on u Iconeum.

Funny enough both these people only called me scum and as far as I know both of them only scumread me? Though gamma is in this weird phase where I don't know if he scumreads me or townreads me but if he no logner scumreads me that means I think he has zero scumreads.

[Iconeum]

I believe in your towngame so much dude
I watched you turn SC:LotV from a stomp into a town win
like you picked the game losing mislynch, turned their frown upside down, and lead the town into an hilarious win when an unkillable scum stump had basically wrecked town WIM

you're wrong here and I think you know that readpost you just dropped down isn't up to scratch. I think town gaining a day has probably fucked scum WIM pretty hard. I expect Pine is scrambling for a clutch play to turn the gamestate back around. You coasting through with a crap solve and hoping we lynch into a PoE which clearly has 1+ town in it clearly fits better with a scum agenda than a town agenda.

If you're town this is the time to flip it around so you can claim endgaming TWO unkillable scum stumps


pedit: note I explicitly didn't ask you for a fireb read - I'm not interested in a fireb read, I know his d6 has been shite

It was a hilarious win and I had a lot more influence and correct reads that game then average. But I just don't feel it, here.
You consider it a crap solve, that's fine. But I strongly feel like we can't get this town straight with a full solve, and need babysteps. 1 day at a time, who is the best lynch, let Ali work his magic, repeat.

[Wooper]

We're actually finally in a position where we can afford to be wrong. Just once. It's a treat more delicious than any fruit. Now's the time to get this to a 5p PoE.