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Post Post #12100 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:02 am

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In post 12095, Iconeum wrote:@ what's left of Pine's scumteam: I can feel you circling around me, looking at me like i'm a mislynch. Let me tell you right here and now that's not gonna happen :)
If it makes you feel better, I think you're the towniest of my solve rnow :lol:
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Post Post #12101 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:04 am

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Ico who is your top scum read now that Duck is more or less off the table
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Post Post #12102 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:00 am

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ok so pp did absolutely nothing at any point ever.

roger that.
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Post Post #12103 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:31 am

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In post 12092, Iconeum wrote:Fire, what happened to your Gamma tunnel?

What makes me so confirmed scum to you, today, that you prefer me as the lynch over anyone else?
Apparently it was a reaction test? Maybe I misconstrued the post explaining but that's my conclusion.
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Post Post #12104 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:31 am

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In post 12096, Something_Smart wrote:
Jingle: does "the governor fruit spoils in XYLO" mean "the governor fruit cannot be used once XYLO is reached" or "the governor fruit cannot be used in XYLO"?
Source post?
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Post Post #12105 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:32 am

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Vote Count 6.2
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With 11 alive it is 6 to Lynch or to No Lynch!

Iconeum (2): , ,
Cephrir (1): ,
Dannflor (0):
Something_Smart (0):
Menalque (0):
Firebringer (0):
MariaR (0):
Gamma Emerald (0):
wooper (0):
Pink Ball (0):
Dunnstral (0):

Not Voting (8): Gamma Emerald, Something_Smart, Iconeum, Pink Ball, Menalque, wooper, Cephrir, Dunnstral


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Deadline: Day 6 will end after 10 days, on October 30th. This is in (expired on 2019-10-30 22:00:00).
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Post Post #12106 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:33 am

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Hey guys, I don't know if you have heard about it, but it has been some rough days here in my country. Haven't read anything going on but I hope to be able to help as soon as possible. I have some spare time right now since my workplace released us early because of the protests so I'll catch up.

Who died? I tracked Maria and I got no result.
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Post Post #12107 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:36 am

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In post 12104, Jingle wrote:Source post?
For clarity, I cannot answer ANY question about fruit or fruit mechanics that does not directly reference a post from Pine or moderator communication. If you'd like to ask a question to verify the truth of a Pine statement, the result will be in 1 of 3 formats. "Pine is telling the truth", "I cannot verify that Pine is telling the truth", or "that is a boldfaced lie and here is the truth". Until and unless Pine lies, I cannot provide extra information about fruit.
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Post Post #12108 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:38 am

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yeah idk if i found anything useful here i mostly just turned up a metric fuckton of, well, you were all here, you know.

lld is at this point quite well known for compulsive bussing (i think?) and considering this is an invitational where a lot of players will know this i feel like she might have changed up her approach.
whatever, here are some posts i'm going to be wishy-washy about. it's just a branding thing, really, i'm obligated.
In post 773, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 483, Menalque wrote:VOTE: chickadee
In post 484, chennisden wrote:VOTE: menalque, he's so fucking opportunistic
What kills me is both these votes are attrocious and I can't help but wonder if one of them is bussing the other when I watch this.

All of Menalque's votes are garbage, btw. The Fire vote was pointless and hung there ever since post 51 and then he switched onto this?!

What kind of move is that, what is he accomplishing?

It just don't feel right.
I don't think LLD ever mentions Menalque again after this. My first thought is "aborted bus" but I'm also reading the thread massively out of context (for all i know mena towned his ass off after) and that's also not giving this pretty good player any credit. so idk here it is, think what u want.
In post 778, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 777, Firebringer wrote:
In post 771, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 768, Firebringer wrote:
In post 766, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:and Maria being town and turning it into a pressure situation.
really? cause I never felt pressure from my wagon and def not from marias empty vote.
I mean, whether the move was effective on you (and your ego? because believe it or not you're a lot closer to being D1 lynched than you think you are rn friend. and this calm and cool persona ain't helping us if you're town) I think that was Maria's intent in the vote to get something out of you, so I'm reading it that way.
i don't think i am immune to lynch, but the general vibe of the game is definitey not scumreading me. Like not even a single vote on me is really from "fire is scum" its like leftover rvs and chickadee forced vote. I am pretty aware of where everyone is at with reading me rn. Most have me at null or town.

so i think ur perception of my mislynchability is just how you think of me as a player not as a general outlook of how people are looking at me, which tbh why would you care to look at that. i care enough for general reads and ego purposes
I mean last I saw Ali still wants you dead?

or has that changed
this doesn't strike me as a scumbuddy interaction
In post 790, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 788, Firebringer wrote:
In post 785, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 781, Firebringer wrote:
In post 778, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I mean last I saw Ali still wants you dead?or has that changed
i mean, do you honestly think ali counts for anything? ICs are generally ignored to begin with.
I mean she completely derailed my Xof lynch and trust me I still think Xof is scum, but there's not a lot more I can learn there while Ali is deflecting all attempts to probe.

Admittedly, Xof's post in reply to mine was a bit better than I expected it to be, but she also had the benefit of time and protection from Ali so

I dunno. I thikn Ali has some sway.
i think ur overstating alisae effect on that
It's how it felt to me, but sure.

Look this is more a pep talk because the more I talk to you about this the more convinced I become you're town so I'd rather not watch your pride go before your fall, if you will.
this also reads like a pocket attempt
In post 797, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 796, Firebringer wrote:
In post 790, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:It's how it felt to me, but sure.Look this is more a pep talk because the more I talk to you about this the more convinced I become you're town so I'd rather not watch your pride go before your fall, if you will.
ummm im not saying my takes on your case is what stopped xofelf push/wagon;

real question cause im kind of curious: do you think i have some sort of pride issue or what?
I do. I think you kind of suffer from the condition where you think you shouldn't and thus won't be lynched, and don't expect to be, and when you suddenly are it's because other people are idiots and not because you weren't paying attention to where the wind was blowing.

I dunno, that's still my sense of you. I admittedly haven't played with you in a while, but...
more of the same, yeah?
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In post 2304, Formerfish wrote:So far in that post I would be ok with xof after ali abandoned her, but disagree on pops and JJH.
Was gonna write tonight, got super sleepy. here is what I have shortform

Basically, between Ank and Chen I think Chen is more likely. (Chen has a ton of bad posts I need to outline, so does Ank but Chen is more draftable and fits the team I imagine better)

Between Pink and Krazy I think Pink is more likely (more actively lurking and more active inaction, where as Krazy kind of is being more flowy. I feel like scum would seek to control or be directed by Pine here)

Between Maria and Katsuki, I think Maria. Kats resembles his town patterning a bit TOO much despite how he normally is, while Maria's interaction with Ali wrt her mental progression on voting me felt super staged and fake, like she was poked about it and came around too easily, too quickly.

So Maria Pink Chen are my other 3

can expand later
it's remarkable to me that multiple players cited as the picks here are still alive

but this is post-shitstorm and she probably is expecting to not go far
In post 2428, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I would lynch Pink tbh
In post 2429, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Feel way more confident about Pink>Krazy
this comes out of basically nowhere and is not supported - i want to say that makes it a bus, but i guess if i'm her this game i probably consider hard never bussing ever

i think reading what others did d1 SHOULD be very interesting. LLD is the centerpiece of any scumteam she's on and i literally HAVE to think that scum are going to want to either get mad towncred for ditching her, or keep her. like i know this sounds level 0 but this player is genuinely very important in a way that merits level 0 play around her. i'm probably going to think being not on LLD but not strongly pushing anything else is the towniest place to be, but obviously i am a player who is interested in how & why players do what they do vastly more than what they do (they don't call me the anti-titus, but they should) so i need to see the posts
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Post Post #12109 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:40 am

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ok this is gonna sound really stupid but hear me out

does LLD interacting with someone meaningfully at all make them more likely to be scum?

By sheer virtue of the fact that so many players are dead, anyone currently alive is mathematically suspicious.

You can either interact with your scumbuddies or not, and there are only so many of them, and you don't know who is going to be alive in endgame.

idk even i think this sounds really stupid but i'm wondering if this is how math works.
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Post Post #12110 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:41 am

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ok google how do i delete my own thought process
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Post Post #12111 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:49 am

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In post 12104, Jingle wrote:Source post?




In my opinion, the statement "It spoils immediately when the Town:scum ratio reaches (x+2):x" explicitly claims that the fruit can no longer be used once MYLO is reached. (I think it's reasonable that if you're applying a truth filter to Pine, your interpretation of his statements ought to be public.) Do you agree with that opinion, and if so, is the statement a lie?
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Post Post #12112 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:54 am

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In post 12106, Pink Ball wrote:Hey guys, I don't know if you have heard about it, but it has been some rough days here in my country. Haven't read anything going on but I hope to be able to help as soon as possible. I have some spare time right now since my workplace released us early because of the protests so I'll catch up.

Who died? I tracked Maria and I got no result.
no one I doc'd the worst
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Post Post #12113 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:58 am

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VOTE: Firebringer
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Post Post #12114 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:00 am

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In post 12113, Alisae wrote:VOTE: Firebringer
How rude
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #12115 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:01 am

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oh ok i'll vote someone else instead
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Post Post #12116 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:01 am

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VOTE: firebringer
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Post Post #12117 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:01 am

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But then you will be rude to someone else
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #12118 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:01 am

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In post 12116, Alisae wrote:VOTE: firebringer
Okay actually yeah, fuck this guy.

Good choice
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #12119 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:04 am

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don't u dare start ending the day while im doing stuff
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Post Post #12120 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:04 am

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Don’t worry I have secret trap card
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #12121 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:05 am

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In post 12106, Pink Ball wrote:Who died? I tracked Maria and I got no result.
No result or no visit?
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Post Post #12122 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:07 am

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i would say you can just check the first post to see who died but you can't because it isn't updated

in fact i guess i'm not even in this game, bye
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Post Post #12123 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:07 am

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oh also no one died lol i'm dumb
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Post Post #12124 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:07 am

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In post 10145, Pine wrote:First, you no longer need worry about the Governor fruit. It spoils immediately when the Town:scum ratio reaches (x+2):x.
As the relevant piece:

First of all, the statement "you no longer need worry about the Governor fruit." is subjective, and thus not subject to the filter.

"It spoils immediately when the Town:scum ratio reaches (x+2):x." is objectively true.

I cannot specify what 'spoils' means in the context of this game.

In post 4838, Pine wrote:Some fruits last longer. The governor fruit lasts until used or XYLO
This is also objectively true.
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