Mini 572 - Packrats (game over)

Ether · Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:05 am

Day 5, Votecount 2 wrote:1 Y (TheSweatpantsNinja)

5 Unvote (hasdgfas, Mizzy, Skruffs, Tiger Twins, Y)

6 alive; 4 to lynch.

Limited access until Monday.

Ether · Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:19 am

Please kill someone.

Y · Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:26 am

No one has anything to say?

hasdgfas · Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:31 am

TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:Oh, I don't think eldarad fabricated anything. I think he received an item and couldn't decide what to do with it.

What makes you think that?

Mizzy · Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:14 pm

I would prefer an Andy lynch based mostly on the hammers. Has I still am hesitant about but because my item showed that he had no actions that night at least, I would rather give him the benefit of the doubt.

TheSweatpantsNinja · Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:24 pm

hasdfgas wrote: What makes you think that?

Its a fairly creative claim for little appreciable gain.

hasdgfas · Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:30 pm

TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:
hasdfgas wrote: What makes you think that?
Its a fairly creative claim for little appreciable gain.

What makes you think that claiming an item and usage isn't gain? I noticed that, who was it, Skruffs and Zindy I think?, are now considered partially cleared for the wolfsbane incident or w/e that was. Maybe he was trying the same thing.

TheSweatpantsNinja · Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:37 pm

Could be. I don't think so. I'm not really sure what you're getting at.

Y · Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:36 pm

Actually, the 'Item' was the answer to "Why did you defend RS as if you knew he was town, although no one else had any reason to think so?". To get out of that mess? It was a good gain.

Mizzy · Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:36 am

Yeah, I definitely think after looking back at the lynch vote count from yesterday that TSPN (formerly Andy Hammersalot) is a good scumbet. Especially after this conversation where he doesn't think Eldarad gained anything from that item claim. He was scum, everything he did was for personal gain, sheesh.

Vote: TheSweatpantsNinja

Skruffs · Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:02 am

Cow is still rather suspicious, from the whole "yos was an obv kill" statement.

I'm concerned that being in a lylo situation, scum might push for a mislynch. The mizzy-tspn-y chain, I needc to examine that.

Mizzy · Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:42 am

Skruffs wrote:Cow is still rather suspicious, from the whole "yos was an obv kill" statement.

I'm concerned that being in a lylo situation, scum might push for a mislynch. The mizzy-tspn-y chain, I needc to examine that.

Well, I figured that if we ARE in lylo, and TSPN isn't dead yet...then either he or the person he voted is a scum, yes? Then I put my money on TSPN.

And Yos WAS an obvkill to those who found him to be pro-town.

TheSweatpantsNinja · Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:29 am

mizzy wrote: Especially after this conversation where he doesn't think Eldarad gained anything from that item claim. He was scum, everything he did was for personal gain, sheesh.

Did you read what I wrote? Even if that "everything scum does is for personal gain" thing wasn't patently silly, that wasn't even the point I was making.

hasdgfas · Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:30 am

Skruffs wrote:Cow is still rather suspicious, from the whole "yos was an obv kill" statement.

Except that he was. I don't get how that's suspicious.

Skruffs wrote:I'm concerned that being in a lylo situation, scum might push for a mislynch. The mizzy-tspn-y chain, I needc to examine that.

Of course scum are going to push for a mislynch. Why would you think otherwise? What are you trying to say here?

Mizzy · Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:39 pm

TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:
mizzy wrote: Especially after this conversation where he doesn't think Eldarad gained anything from that item claim. He was scum, everything he did was for personal gain, sheesh.
Did you read what I wrote? Even if that "everything scum does is for personal gain" thing wasn't patently silly, that wasn't even the point I was making.

Good defense, calling my point silly.

Yes, I read what you wrote, and not only does it not clear you in my eyes, but some of what you have said makes you scummier, to me.

TheSweatpantsNinja · Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:30 pm

Well, I wasn't really anticipated being cleared. . . but could you explain why it makes me scummy?

Mizzy · Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:19 am

TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:Well, I wasn't really anticipated being cleared. . . but could you explain why it makes me scummy?

It almost feels like you are defending what Eldarad did. It feels like you are still unwilling to see his item-claim as the potential scum-laden barrel of lies that it probably is and instead are all, "Shucks guys, he wasn't THAT bad."

TheSweatpantsNinja · Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:24 am

Oh, no, if anything, I was engaging in a little self-promotion, because my case on eldarad was based on him reacting like scum would react to being given a pro-town item.

If I were scum, wouldn't I

know

whether it was a scum-laden barrel of lies? Or is that the case you're making?

Tiger Twins · Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:04 am

TSPN's vote on Y makes me think TSPN is scum, possibly with Y.

Still no predictable access... :/.

~Guardian

Mizzy · Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:13 am

TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:Oh, no, if anything, I was engaging in a little self-promotion, because my case on eldarad was based on him reacting like scum would react to being given a pro-town item.

If I were scum, wouldn't I
know
whether it was a scum-laden barrel of lies? Or is that the case you're making?

This is my point, yes. You're acting like we shouldn't give the Eldarad item claim quite the amount of scrutiny that I think we should be and that makes me wonder if it's because you're not interested due to the fact that maybe you already knew it was a lie.

TheSweatpantsNinja · Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:17 am

Even though I said I didn't think it was a lie?

Y · Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:22 am

TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:Even though I said I didn't think it was a lie?

That's the whole point. It seems pretty obvious that something's wrong with that claim, but you keep insisting that we should ignore it.

Mizzy · Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:23 am

TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:Even though I said I didn't think it was a lie?

And why would you think it wasn't a lie? Is there not a possibility of you lying about your opinion on the matter, anyway?

TheSweatpantsNinja · Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:52 pm

y wrote: That's the whole point. It seems pretty obvious that something's wrong with that claim, but you keep insisting that we should ignore it.

Please explain where I said we should ignore eldarad's claim, because apparently I've kept insisting that, yet I can't find a single one of my posts that said this.

mizzy wrote: And why would you think it wasn't a lie? Is there not a possibility of you lying about your opinion on the matter, anyway?

Like I said before, my theory on eldarad involved him as scum trying to react to having an item that was essentially only useful to non-scum. I've seen no reason to revise that theory.

But anyway, so now your theory is I'm lying about what my opinion is about eldarad lying about having an item at all because. . . I'm sorry, why would I do that again?

Mizzy · Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:25 am

Okay, firstly, Skruffs got an item that he used on Zindy called Wolfsbane and nothing happened. Then Eldarad got an entirely different item called Moonshine which he used on RS and "nothing happened." We basically have two items that do the

same thing

. Do you really think they are both real? Especially when Moonshine is alcohol and Ether is not a moron?