Designer Mafia 2007 - Game Over, Final Scene Posted!

[Nocmen]

Tell us all the information you have.

[nonny]

Already told you my claim. And that the information I do have is pointless, because the person it's on is dead.

zoneace: thank you for reading.

[ZONEACE]

its day 5 why do you only have 1 persons info?

[armlx]

I'm good with a nonny lynch still.

[ZONEACE]

at this point so am I but tss and ssf are definitely listing.

[nonny]

Because I don't always get a result, sometimes it fails apparently. Either I get their ailgnment, thier role, or nada.

[armlx]

Don't buy it one bit. Mafia role cop probably.

[Twomz]

I can't confirm alignment, but that is actually one of the roles that I sent in... although I believe it's slightly modified, I can attempt to find my list of sent roles later and post what I sent in if you want. I do know I made it a role cop so alignment would be a coin toss.

@ Nonny: Do you have an additional ability? A simple yes or no will do, if you do I'm pretty sure I know what it is.

[armlx]

I do know I made it a role cop so alignment would be a coin toss.

Mafia role cop probably.

Called it.

[Nocmen]

Nonny, no beating around the bush. It doesn't matter if the person is dead, I want to know any PM's or results you have gotten.

[armlx]

Nonny, no beating around the bush. It doesn't matter if the person is dead, I want to know any PM's or results you have gotten.

I would disagree with this if I remotely thought nonny could be town.

[Twomz]

Actually, the hacker I sent in had 3 abilities...

Computer Hacker
- has 3 abilities
- hack account - player has to post a certain message in one of their posts the next day, must follow certain conditions (player specified)
- blackout - once per game, resets vote count (does not get a night choice)
- research - has a 50% chance of revealing alignment, and a 50% chance of revealing role of target player

Obv... either hack to make someone say something or research each night, and once a game can reset vote count. I'm guessing nonny would do that if she could to stop her lynch.

I doubt MoS would have put that exact role in, so it might just be the research... a role cop/alignment cop would be useful only partially though so I dunno.

[nonny]

Nocman, there is no point to it because nothing I have can be used to confirm any one or to accuse any one. Right now i have 3 poeple with no data, and then I know shanba's role but so do you it on the front page.

Twomz: I only have the research one. It doesn't even make sense to me the no data part of it. I don't get how you 50% get ailgnement, and 50% get roles but some how can get nothing....would have to be a 33.33% each...but that is just smantics.

[Twomz]

Can you please list who was targeted, what night and the results?

[Sir Tornado]

OH, THE HORROR!

Side note: After Nonny is done, I want to have a good hard look at SSF. I don't like his behaviour on the last 2 pages.

Nonny, how do you have 3 people with no data and only one with complete data if you believe that the probabilities between getting a role/alignment/no information are 33/33/33? That's stretching it a bit mathematically.

Mafia role cop is possible I guess... I had one in the first mini game I modded.

[Kison]

But do we know for certain Simenon actually receieved a shirt?

You can't explain CKD's investigation by any other means.

*confused*

You mean you can't explain Sim's investigation by any other means, I assume?

Really disliking the continued hesitation from Nonny on the role claiming. armlx is spot on with what hesitation typically means, and this is a perfect example of it, IMO.

FoS : Nonny

List the results. If it's useless then there's no harm in posting it. I'm also curious as to how you only have one result this deep into the game. What were the night actions submitted to the mod, and what were the results?

1) XXX -> Result
2) YYY -> Result
3) ZZZ -> Result
4) BBB -> Result

[Simenon]

Nonny absolutely needs to tell us what night she got the result, especially before reading the game.

She's not a mafia cop, or at least not a mafia version of the role she claimed. She's either lying or, much more unlikely, telling the truth.

[Simenon]

EBWODP: Never mind. I didn't read twomz's claim, which is going to make me rethink.

[Sir Tornado]

*confused*

OH, THE HORROR!

I meant Simenon's investigation... well, I think both CKD and Simenon understood what I meant.

[nonny]

I don't see where you think I'm hesitating. You asked for a claim I claimed, you asked for more I gave you more. I just don't see the point in dwelling over night choice that are useless and not going to do anything for the town. But if you insist:

N1: mneme got no data
N2: shanba got thier role (I see she claimed, and that she was lynched. I don't know why my predocessor didn't say anything, but I believe it is due to lurking)
N3: Belgarion got no data
N4: TSS got no data

I think this is also a horrible way to replace into the game, especially with you guys telling me not to re-read. Because that just leads to my confusion such as on this shirt giving thing, and other matters. And after you read my claim and am satisfied and we move on it'll be days before i can re-read and then voice my opinion. Basically I think those telling me not to re-read just want me to not have anything to contribute which is telling in my book.

[Simenon]

When you get "no data", do you actually get a result from MoS?

Don't weasel your way out of this. This isn't "some people." These are the requests of everyone active.

[nonny]

I wouldn't know for sure simenon. Since I didn't send any of these requests. But it's according to MoS that I get no data.

See it's not weaseling out of it since I'm giving you all you are asking for...where am I weaseling out? When I didn't claim or didn't give you my results...oh wait I did that, I am allowed to state my opinion on the matter seeing as that is what mafia is about, I'm not just going to roll over and play dead and not say anything on the matter.

Plus I didn't say some poeple, I said the poeple telling me not to re-read, which only a handleful said that specifically. So uhm, maybe you should actually read instead of just assuming that I'm trying to wiggle my way out?

[Simenon]

If someone did want you to read the thread, they would have said so.

Ask the mod my question, please.

[Twomz]

I believe nonny has the hacker role. Now, we need to determine alignment... look at who was "targeted" (yes, I know there is a possibility of a lie, but if she hasn't finished the reread could she really risk it?). While the night 3 no result is rather damning, the fact that there is no result night 1 and 4 kinda mellows that out (although, there really shouldn't be a reason for it unless a cop/role cop was seen as too powerful (unlikely)). The fact that PBug targeted Belg at all... that's just weird to me. While a TSS investigation would have been very beneficial for both the town and the mafia.

I dunno... I wish I had an explanation for the lack of results on night 1 and 4... and night 3 especially.

[nonny]

Simenon, I've already asked the mod about it and the answer was confusing at best. Basically it just means I have no information. That's it, if I knew what it meant I would have said so.

Twomz, I can't tell you why the poeple were picked I just know that they were. I wish I knew more.