Alisae V Pine: Trees Apparently Make Good Treestumps

[Pine]

Yo, Pine, what about my offer on the vig fruit?

VOTE: dannflor

bargain: vigilante

Who you going to shoot?

[Firebringer]

Second, the vig kill was likely targeting Fire who wanted mastina dead soooo

Don’t think this accurate

All the major town HATED the governor Fire and agreed you should be vigged. So yeah, FF was shooting you.

then how am I here? why would scum save me? Are u scumreading me or not cause u said I might be town earlier.

[Alisae]

Firebringer why do you think duckie is scum again?

[Alisae]

I think his D4 is pretty townie, especially with his interactions with iconeum

[Titus]

Second, the vig kill was likely targeting Fire who wanted mastina dead soooo

Don’t think this accurate

All the major town HATED the governor Fire and agreed you should be vigged. So yeah, FF was shooting you.

then how am I here? why would scum save me? Are u scumreading me or not cause u said I might be town earlier.

Scum should save you in that scenario regardless because you artificially restrict the game worse than Alisae. Like legit scum aren't getting lynched today.

[Alisae]

Second, the vig kill was likely targeting Fire who wanted mastina dead soooo

Don’t think this accurate

All the major town HATED the governor Fire and agreed you should be vigged. So yeah, FF was shooting you.

then how am I here? why would scum save me? Are u scumreading me or not cause u said I might be town earlier.

Scum should save you in that scenario regardless because you artificially restrict the game worse than Alisae. Like legit scum aren't getting lynched today.

hey wait a min
I said that yesterday!

[Menalque]

Yo, Pine, what about my offer on the vig fruit?

VOTE: dannflor

bargain: vigilante

Who you going to shoot?

VOTE: dannflor

bargain: vigilante

Who you going to shoot?

I'll shoot in pops, krazy, dann, Maria

[Firebringer]

Scum should save you in that scenario regardless because you artificially restrict the game worse than Alisae. Like legit scum aren't getting lynched today.

so I am so repressive to the town, scum decided to save me for those negative attribute points to the towns cohesion stat.

got it.

[Titus]

Second, the vig kill was likely targeting Fire who wanted mastina dead soooo

Don’t think this accurate

All the major town HATED the governor Fire and agreed you should be vigged. So yeah, FF was shooting you.

then how am I here? why would scum save me? Are u scumreading me or not cause u said I might be town earlier.

Scum should save you in that scenario regardless because you artificially restrict the game worse than Alisae. Like legit scum aren't getting lynched today.

hey wait a min
I said that yesterday!

Yes and you wonder why I think the RB is a lie and scum doc is a thing...

[Alisae]

Second, the vig kill was likely targeting Fire who wanted mastina dead soooo

Don’t think this accurate

All the major town HATED the governor Fire and agreed you should be vigged. So yeah, FF was shooting you.

then how am I here? why would scum save me? Are u scumreading me or not cause u said I might be town earlier.

Scum should save you in that scenario regardless because you artificially restrict the game worse than Alisae. Like legit scum aren't getting lynched today.

hey wait a min
I said that yesterday!

Yes and you wonder why I think the RB is a lie and scum doc is a thing...

whats easier Titus
Predicting where the vig is going to shoot in an environment where I’m privately leashing things
Or just roleblocking the person you suspect is the vig

Like I really don’t know what else to tell you here

[Pine]

Yo, Pine, what about my offer on the vig fruit?

VOTE: dannflor

bargain: vigilante

Who you going to shoot?

VOTE: dannflor

bargain: vigilante

Who you going to shoot?

I'll shoot in pops, krazy, dann, Maria

Nah pass

[Menalque]

yeah, kinda thought you'd prefer to give this one to scum instead

[Katsuki]

What makes you think Mastina's BG claim is self-resolving, despite earlier fakeclaims and all the signs pointing to Ank having hid behind Mastina N1?

Because of the failed vigkill. Either PP blocked it or it's a mob doctor. That's the most likely setup.

I disagree on Ank hiding behind mastina n1, obviously.

I don't see how any potential failed vigkills are indicative of bodyguard. That's not even how a bodyguard works?

No, it's not directly how it works. Yet if scum have a doctor, town should have a protective role as well. Second, the vig kill was likely targeting Fire who wanted mastina dead soooo

I still have no clue how you think bodyguard ever resolves itself. It's an awesome role to fakeclaim because it buys you a ton of time. From supposed to be dying D2 to being alive even now.

Meta is still super important because mafia is a game of understanding underlying intents. Every person thinks differently, there's no way you can ever apply the same thing to every player. What Elli developed to accurately read every player is steeped heavily in meta.

[Menalque]

I have a new readslist if anyone's interested

[Titus]

@Katsuki, There is no method that can read every player. Sometimes the best methods fail. My methods sometimes fail.

That's why I'm saying if you're dictating a town mislynch, get it the fuck over with.

[Titus]

Second, the vig kill was likely targeting Fire who wanted mastina dead soooo

Don’t think this accurate

All the major town HATED the governor Fire and agreed you should be vigged. So yeah, FF was shooting you.

then how am I here? why would scum save me? Are u scumreading me or not cause u said I might be town earlier.

Scum should save you in that scenario regardless because you artificially restrict the game worse than Alisae. Like legit scum aren't getting lynched today.

hey wait a min
I said that yesterday!

Yes and you wonder why I think the RB is a lie and scum doc is a thing...

whats easier Titus
Predicting where the vig is going to shoot in an environment where I’m privately leashing things
Or just roleblocking the person you suspect is the vig

Like I really don’t know what else to tell you here

Alisae, the smart town have been rebelling from you for ages. Even so, an FB shot is a no brainer.

[Menalque]

SS, me - town
PB
mastina

ducky - TLs
dann
MariaR


fb - null
gamma
greyICE!slot
kats
icon

PP - scum
Krazy
Titus
pops

[Pine]

Actually

Titus - would you also surrender your vote for the Vig fruit? I fancy being a double voter today

[Firebringer]

hey pine i got an interesting deal for u, what if me and titus surrender our votes to u for today and alisae gets the vigilante.

[Firebringer]

you become a triple voter.

[Titus]

Pine I would. My vote is not useful because no one who I vote is getting lynched.

[Titus]

you become a triple voter.

I'm not giving Alisae a vig.

[Firebringer]

Pine I will give you my vote to not give the vigilante to Titus

[Katsuki]

@Katsuki, There is no method that can read every player. Sometimes the best methods fail. My methods sometimes fail.

That's why I'm saying if you're dictating a town mislynch, get it the fuck over with.

I mean you guys got your chennis mislynch yesterday.

Even if Mastina were to be a mislynch, far better now than later down the road. I don't think it is.

[Pine]

hey pine i got an interesting deal for u, what if me and titus surrender our votes to u for today and alisae gets the vigilante.

Alisae is specifically barred from getting fruit by the rules.

Pine I would. My vote is not useful because no one who I vote is getting lynched.

Thus is our bargain sealed.

I will use the VOTE tags for Gamma Emerald’s vote and the HURT tags for Titus’s.

HURT: Iconeum