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Post Post #1475 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:23 am

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In post 1457, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1454, gameplay506 wrote:I stand by what I say and I hope people consider my reads for once
sure. what's something from your catchup so far that you'd like for me to address?
Um I don't know? Can't really think of something specific that I wan't you to comment on if that's what you are asking
In post 1461, YukzYuk wrote:Gameplay what do you think shoshins case on wisdom is?
In post 355, Shoshin wrote:There's a degree of self-consciousness in 315 that doesn't feel like town Wisdom.
This is the argument/line I am referring to.
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Post Post #1476 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:24 am

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I MEAN my last post prior to my catch-up was on page 5 with probably half of my posts being jokish Celestial
I don't know how you expect me to townspew myself without posting
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Post Post #1477 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:24 am

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Sakura, how confident are you in your Nancy read?
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Post Post #1478 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:25 am

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In post 97, gameplay506 wrote:Ye ok good
Honestly from what we've had so far I have more negative then positive reads atm
It might be that the other large theme magical girls was pretty jokish for the first 10-15 pages or so but SS, wisdom and SH posts just seem a little out of place
Esp SS and his questions which just seem like overdoing it a bit
don't think this comes from town more than a very small percentage of the time.
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Post Post #1479 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:25 am

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I think giving the baton to Shoshin is a joke except it's not at all a funny one.
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Post Post #1480 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:26 am

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In post 1475, gameplay506 wrote:Um I don't know? Can't really think of something specific that I wan't you to comment on if that's what you are asking
it feels so wrong not to be able to vote you right now.
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Post Post #1481 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:26 am

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In post 1479, Celestial Coordinates wrote:I think giving the baton to Shoshin is a joke except it's not at all a funny one.
Why? She has just as high a town winrate as you and the downsides are significantly less.
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Post Post #1482 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:26 am

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In post 1437, YukzYuk wrote:Is this you faking with your reads or you speaking honestly because I want to use Ceph as a proxy flip before considering flipping shoshin
The second proxy flip Yukz has proposed today.

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Post Post #1483 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:27 am

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In post 1470, Celestial Coordinates wrote:I think even 'a universal townread' doesn't do it justice, he was the single person I think everyone agreed was 100% town the entire game from super early on.
I agree that I was townleaning in most player's eyes but also a strong townread in scum's eyes
But an universal townread no, Gamma, Titus and someone else I can't recall rn didn't have me as town at all
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Post Post #1484 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:27 am

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Cici you get three kills before night, pragmatically you should not be super upset if you don’t get baton.
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Post Post #1485 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:27 am

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In post 1453, Celestial Coordinates wrote:2) you reacted to the scumread on you with a lot of AtE. not sure what it means either. certainly not what i expected but otoh my expectations could just as easily be the problem.
i'll just offer an explanation and then let it rest. i dont want this to be a central thing about the game. it's completely reasonable that this skeeves you out and i'm not asking you not to belabor the point just that i'm not really interested, personally, in talking about it beyond this.

my games the past few years (whether or not i've been town) have with a very high frequency followed one of two patterns. either i've been a general townread by the end of day 1, or i've had to fight my lynch tooth and nail every single day the whole game. you coming out anti-me was a big signal to me that this was going to be the latter, which is not my favorite experience, and generated some negativity. i don't think this would've lasted more than a few posts if negative posts from others had not made me feel worse.
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Post Post #1486 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:28 am

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In post 1481, Oversoul wrote:
In post 1479, Celestial Coordinates wrote:I think giving the baton to Shoshin is a joke except it's not at all a funny one.
Why? She has just as high a town winrate as you and the downsides are significantly less.
1) her town winrate is a good bit lower than mine
2) the question isn't that, the question is about is she town and is she likely to get killed and I think she's never a nightkill and i'm not sure if she's town.
Cici you get three kills before night, pragmatically you should not be super upset if you don’t get baton.
I find the idea of Shoshin specifically getting it somewhat offensive to my sensibilities and I'd rather it go to Nacho if it's not going to me.
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Post Post #1487 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:29 am

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like, i call you out for posting a catch up post with some surface observations that you don't really give a shit about.

you respond "I stand behind what I said. I just hope that people will listen to my reads." - which is not great, makes you sound like a politician, but w/e.

so i say "OK, give me one thing that you care about. One thing that you brought up that you want me to look at."

and you have nothing?

@gameplay since i'm sure i'll get pedited
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Post Post #1488 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:30 am

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In post 1484, Oversoul wrote:Cici you get three kills before night
please don't reinforce this
i hope you're joking
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Post Post #1489 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:30 am

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also without exception in the games me and shoshin have both been town in my reads have been superior and not by a small margin.
but this isn't really the argument we're having because the question is is she town and I don't know that she is.

there's enough people to make the 5 universal townread pool that she doesn't have to be in it and I'd prefer she be lynched if she lives to 3 way and I'd rather not exclude her from shot contention.

@Nacho I literally made none of those posts and you're scum for misrepping me
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Post Post #1490 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:31 am

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Shoshin is not a reasonable baton today, I think that's pretty obvious.
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Post Post #1491 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:32 am

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like it's not a big deal since i'm already fairly certain i will not get the baton and i'm fairly certain we're going to die since we don't
but that specific vote irritates me.
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Post Post #1492 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:33 am

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pm is probably not scum
I ruined gay dance.
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Post Post #1493 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:34 am

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I think the only people in this lobby who would even consider a Shoshin shot are also people who wouldn't take that shot because it points towards them.
Her chances of being the nightkill are somewhere between 0 and 5%. It's an objectively bad choice.

At least I might get underestimated by certain scumteam compositions that would then go for Nacho or someone instead.
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Post Post #1494 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:34 am

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hey guys

only took me 60 pages to figure out that GDGW= Gay Dance Gone Wrong!!!
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Post Post #1495 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:35 am

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Like, anyone who would know enough about the current meta to shoot Shoshin would know better than to not shoot me.

:?
hey guys

only took me 60 pages to figure out that GDGW= Gay Dance Gone Wrong!!!
good job!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post Post #1496 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:35 am

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As someone who's played scum against town!RC and town!Shoshin, I will defer that RC had significantly better reads even if he significantly more likely to piss off the entire playerbase.
I ruined gay dance.
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Post Post #1497 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:36 am

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In post 1480, Nachomamma8 wrote:it feels so wrong not to be able to vote you right now.
Eh
I don't know what you expect from me or what you are asking me to do rn
I don't need your feedback on my thoughts and I don't see how that makes me so bad
:yawn:

Pedit: I don't want you to chime in and start giving your take on what I find/don't find interesting from 40 pages ago since I already said that those thoughts are highly likely to change
And I hope people will listen to my reads part refers to when I actually finish reading and form more solid reads
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Post Post #1498 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:38 am

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As much as I think Nacho is probably town, it's becoming more clear that he's at least not baton leader material for D1.
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Post Post #1499 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:40 am

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In post 1490, Cephrir wrote:Shoshin is not a reasonable baton today, I think that's pretty obvious.
In post 1486, Celestial Coordinates wrote:
In post 1481, Oversoul wrote:
In post 1479, Celestial Coordinates wrote:I think giving the baton to Shoshin is a joke except it's not at all a funny one.
Why? She has just as high a town winrate as you and the downsides are significantly less.
1) her town winrate is a good bit lower than mine
2) the question isn't that, the question is about is she town and is she likely to get killed and I think she's never a nightkill and i'm not sure if she's town.
Cici you get three kills before night, pragmatically you should not be super upset if you don’t get baton.
I find the idea of Shoshin specifically getting it somewhat offensive to my sensibilities and I'd rather it go to Nacho if it's not going to me.
In post 1490, Cephrir wrote:Shoshin is not a reasonable baton today, I think that's pretty obvious.
Why...?

RC, why don’t you think Shoshin is town at this juncture?

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