Minvitational 8 - OVER before 611

[curiouskarmadog]

@Oman: why have you made 20 posts in other threads since your last post in this game?

Because this is an invitational, I feel no need to spout posts left and right. In fact, I'd much rather just watch you all and think to myself. I'm reading, and responding, but I am trying hard to change up the playstyle a bit, as you apparently did Adel, just to find something new and different.

Basically, I'm not usually a good townie, and I'm trying to improve my scumhutning.

how do you scum hunt without asking question? I didnt know it could be a passive thing.

[cicero]

I don't understand why an invitational becomes a reason to play like Anix. I'd expect everyone to be bringing their "A" game, not their experimental game.

We have a week before we need to string someone up and a good third of the game is floating by under the radar.

[Guardian]

Vote Count 13

Oman[3] (Erg0, vollkan, Shanba)
Shanba[2] (Jitsu, Oman)
shaft.ed[2] (The Fonz, Simenon)
Jitsu[2] (shaft.ed, BillyTwilight)
Adel[2] (curiouskarmadog, cicero)
curiouskarmadog[1] (Adel)

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Remember, deadline looms.
I am still vacationing; If I've missed something or players need prodding or whatnot, let me know.

[cicero]

Unvote. Vote Billy Twilight

Erg0 would be cool too.

[curiouskarmadog]

Mod, please prod Shanba

[shaft.ed]

So you regard Oman's recent lurking in plain site and admitting it as lazy and not scummy then?

I'm really not very happy with his play after reading back over his posts in isolation.

unvote, vote: Oman

What have you learned from your watching?

[cicero]

It isn't that it isn't scummy. The question is: could you justify lynching Oman instead of Erg0 or Billy?

[shaft.ed]

It isn't that it isn't scummy. The question is: could you justify lynching Oman instead of Erg0 or Billy?

I don't know billy, but I'd say Oman's style is crazy different. Also his last post seemed to attempt to justify it as "Adel did it too," when as we've recently seen Adel has settled into her normal game play (which reminds me I forgot to check on something).

Erg0 is like this on Day 1's from my experience and yes he needs to post more. But I think Oman's justification and "look Adel did it" reasoning is a bit scummy and worthy of pressure.

[shaft.ed]

Adel, I'm pretty sure you still suspect CKD as scum. Do you agree with the scummy reasoning that the only reason for his Shanba unvote would be if Shanba was his scum partner?

[shaft.ed]

Bah EBWOP: Do you agree with the reasoning that the only

scummy

reason

[Adel]

I don't see it as being the

only

scummy reason. I can think of a couple reasons why ckd-scum wouldn't want to be on the shanba-town wagon.

[Oman]

@Oman: why have you made 20 posts in other threads since your last post in this game?

Because this is an invitational, I feel no need to spout posts left and right. In fact, I'd much rather just watch you all and think to myself. I'm reading, and responding, but I am trying hard to change up the playstyle a bit, as you apparently did Adel, just to find something new and different.

Basically, I'm not usually a good townie, and I'm trying to improve my scumhutning.

how do you scum hunt without asking question? I didnt know it could be a passive thing.

Other people are doing it for me, really. I don't think it requires MY active participation, I think it requires active participation of some sort.

[shaft.ed]

I still feel like you're blowing smoke out your ass. Your moogle supports this hypothesis.

What have you learned from your watching?

[Oman]

I still feel like you're blowing smoke out your ass. Your moogle supports this hypothesis.

What have you learned from your watching?

I've learned that Vollkan isn't playing the way I'd expect him to.

I've learned that CKD is playing in a very town way.

I've learned that you, shaft.ed, are reacting well to the bullshit that I feel was thrown on you.

[Shanba]

OK, I'm sorry for my inactivity, I"ll catch up ASAP. Exams are done now though

[Shanba]

I've read through, but I'm actually really tired still. Important stuff, though:

My vote on Oman was not because I disliked cicero's defence. That would be pretty stupid. CKD - calm down, re-read Adel's posts, and stop getting wound up. Your OMGUS is emotional and doesn't really make much sense.

[curiouskarmadog]

I assume when you get back, you will answer in a little more depth.

and I dont really think you are reading Adel's post

[BillyTwilight]

I'm extremely interested to hear Sim's thoughts on CKD's original response to Adel.

Nah already posted it. Sorry.

In case you missed it: I think it was a stupid thing to do, but there is a pressure on townies to be as "inquisitive as possible", and to pursue every option. I am constantly under this pressure and make idiotic posts too. I believe "why didn't cicero include me" to be genuine here.

Sim, I was looking for a specific response to post #344, and I don't see that anywhere. The reason I ask is that you once told me one of your favorite scumtells is someone getting belligerent and rude in the face of an accusation, so I expected you to have something to say about CKD's post #344.

Jitsu responded fairly well to my vote; I hoped that if he was scum for the first time on this site in an invitational game a little pressure might get him to make a nervous mistake.

Unvote

. Don't see anything from him that screams scum to me.

On reading the thread from a forest-instead-of-trees point of view, I completely agree with Adel's case against CKD, particularly how CKD changed the subject to Adel's "tunnel-vision, narrow-minded" approach. The way I see it is CKD voted for Shanba, and jumped off inexplicably. Logic goes "Shanba not posting, vote shanba to get him to post, oh, others voted Shanba?, well, he's not around so what good does the vote do here if he isn't posting, unvote Shanba, but consider my vote to still be there."

Pretty sure there's a bunch of craplogic there, and when Adel pointed it out CKD gets belligerent and tries to shift the focus of the discussion to Adel being narrow-minded.

I think the interaction between cicero and ckd is interesting, as well. It's just not something I've ever seen before. Adel's play seems genuinely frustrated in that she feels she sees something that others aren't seeing and no one else is buying. Adel seems to be more interested in finding scum and ckd seems to be more interested in destroying Adel's credibility to keep any case from forming against him.

Vote: CKD

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[cicero]

someone getting belligerent and rude in the face of an accusation

is a terrible scumtell in my opinion.

Adel seems to be more interested in finding scum and ckd seems to be more interested in destroying Adel's credibility to keep any case from forming against him.

Is the best argument in favor of Adel and against CKD and is well articulated.

[BillyTwilight]

someone getting belligerent and rude in the face of an accusation

is a terrible scumtell in my opinion.

Not my idea of a scumtell either, but I asked Sim's opinion on the post because I expected him to have a bigger reaction (or a reaction at all) to that post because of past experience with him.

[Simenon]

The reason I ask is that you once told me one of your favorite scumtells is someone getting belligerent and rude in the face of an accusation,

Did I say that? I'm wrong.

I

get rude and belligerent in the face of an accusation.

[Simenon]

The reason I ask is that you once told me one of your favorite scumtells is someone getting belligerent and rude in the face of an accusation,

Did I say that? I'm wrong.

I

get rude and belligerent in the face of an accusation.

And I think the whole notion of "scumtells" is mostly bullshit anyway.

[curiouskarmadog]

Logic goes "Shanba not posting, vote shanba to get him to post, oh, others voted Shanba?, well, he's not around so what good does the vote do here if he isn't posting, unvote Shanba, but consider my vote to still be there."

BT, can you please quote a post that I said I was voting Shanba to get him talking. Also, can you please quote Adel where she said I voted Shanba to get him talking.


When you cant find it, plesae tell me again why you are voting for me.

[BillyTwilight]

The reason I ask is that you once told me one of your favorite scumtells is someone getting belligerent and rude in the face of an accusation,

Did I say that? I'm wrong.

I

get rude and belligerent in the face of an accusation.

HaHa. Was probably the main thing that made me NK you in Mafia64 - saying you found people getting belligerent to be a scumtell and then getting belligerent with me when I pushed you. I'm fine with your answer here, though.

[BillyTwilight]

Logic goes "Shanba not posting, vote shanba to get him to post, oh, others voted Shanba?, well, he's not around so what good does the vote do here if he isn't posting, unvote Shanba, but consider my vote to still be there."

BT, can you please quote a post that I said I was voting Shanba to get him talking. Also, can you please quote Adel where she said I voted Shanba to get him talking.


When you cant find it, plesae tell me again why you are voting for me.

My contact with Adel (2-3 games)...she always plays different and I always tend to think she is scummy. Dont know why. I have played in two games with cierco and if I recall, he does vote hop quite frequently...

also still waiting,

vote shanba

I took the "still waiting part" to be waiting on Shanba to contribute.

so after no posting from shanba for four days ckd voted for him. two days later ckd unvotes him. four days of no voting ='s a vote, but six days of no voting ='s an unvote?

I'd say that pretty much answers your questions, CKD.

Still voting you for the same reasons as before. Kthnxbai.