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[Garmr]

@Garmr: It is STANDARD. You're just not familiar with it. Watcher gets "You saw Nothing" or "Nobody visited your target" id SUCCESSFUL vs "No Result" if it failed. Cop gets Guilty/Not Guilty/No Result. In any case No Result means your action failed.

I want to change the standard to action failed.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

hey jjd wanna play a game

Sure. I LOVE games

It's an action adventure game called "Catch the scum". You get to choose your starter weapon.

The "townizer" makes it so that you quit your silly murking and allow yourself to be readable.
Alternativley, you can refuse that weapon and obtain the "mirror" and instantly win the game because you've found scum.

Carca, my dear friend. You have played with me enough times to be able to get a hint. I am 100% Town here, and you should be able to tell if you refer to both the game I was Town with scum you (the RC, PP, N_M, Skitter, NC.. etc one) AND the one I was Scum with Town you (The one with Saudade and FL as IC??). I've been VERY TRANSPARENT to you all. (OK, that's a lie.. I wasn't completely transparent, but still.. close enough)

[Garmr]

Can we have "you are great back" over texcat.

Is this because you think texcat is playing badly or do you just want them off your ass?

No it's after last game I played with them. It's one of the ones me and gamma were talking about before when me and rc lynched claimed masons.

I think I was in that one and I pushed them too, but that was because the claim was totally wack

After that we nailed one scum but me and texcat got caught up on each other. we had like 1 mislynch left and then derp the worst came in and tex cat convinced the worst to vote me. Then after my death they sheeped me on the tex cat thing and not my other two scum reads (which were the remaining scum) and the game was lost. She was on my ass for stupid shit the whole game.

Her referring to me reminded me of that game and makes me want to just kill the slot to save me the headache. I don't care if it's town or scum.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

In my nightmares I see myself and the rest of town too stubborn to lynch scum!Dalton because even though he's scummily glazing by, it's not "scum indicative for him" or some shit.

To be fair, Rick’s actions thus far are par for the course. If we have a vig he or she should just kill Rick.

Don't give me directions. Please and thank you.

You're not the vig. Knowing you, there definitely would be an extra kill.

How about EVEN Night Vig?? (See? You can't beat me in the game of fake claiming!)

[Garmr]

How to win mafia scum.
Lynch texcat

Did she flip scum

if yes congrats you lynched scum.


If no lynch lynch her town reads you'll have lynched scum congrats you won.


VOTE: Texcat

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

WAIT! I want to retract that. I am DISLOYAL. Yup. That's it. I am a DISLOYAL VIGILANTE. I shot .. erm... Cliff?? That's why I am not chasing his ass anymore!

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

How to win mafia scum.
Lynch texcat

Did she flip scum

if yes congrats you lynched scum.


If no lynch lynch her town reads you'll have lynched scum congrats you won.


VOTE: Texcat

We should ask for a full read list then

[gobbledygook]

I think this frustration means Garmr is more likely town.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

I think this frustration means Garmr is more likely town.

Ok.. then I shot Garmr. that's why I am confident he's town.

[gobbledygook]

How is your comment related to my comment about Garmr's frustration?

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

You said he was likely town and I confirmed he is. I shot Garmr and he didn't die and I'm disloyal so my shot only kills non-town.

[texcat]

How to win mafia scum.
Lynch texcat

Did she flip scum

if yes congrats you lynched scum.


If no lynch lynch her town reads you'll have lynched scum congrats you won.


VOTE: Texcat

Wait. Is this coming from the person who just claimed to have lynched claimed town masons? When you were town?

[bob3141]

garmr what was your reasoning behind targeting carc?

What were you hoping to find

[Titus]

Wait, if we know Garmr lied about his target, what was going on there? And if he lied about his target why aren't people voting him? I feel like 90 percent of this game is like 3 miles over my head.

VOTE: Garmr

Pedit: shit Garmr lying about a PR this feels familiar.

VOTE: tchill

I didn't lie about my target I lied about my result but

carralilly acted daft

and didn't realise I was trying to protect her by creating a imaginary doctor for scum to hunt after......

Also the fact the mod said

no result

instead of

action failed

made believe my action was a success.

That's the new normal meta. They don't want roleblocks to be separate from ascetic.

[Titus]

Also carra should of claimed ascetic because she wasted my ability.

Tbh, yeah but people don't do the thing of claiming negative utility post one.

[Titus]

Wait, I’m gonna take control of the game today AND i’m Town. I screwed myself over. I swear to drunk I’m not god or my name isn’t Dick ralton.

You have no idea how much I soul read this.

[bob3141]

And rooster looked like a rather lazy bandwagon. As his lack of posting wasnt evidance that could be used for him being scum. As if anyone checked his games they could tell he doesnt lurk as scum.

Naked votes yes but not lurking.

And if a player isnt posting he clearly aint playing

This logic only works if you assume he subbed out without any legit reason. Did you check whether he's super disengaged/subs out as town? Doesn't hold up and I don't see why you TR the slot.

I checked some of his other games where he was town. All of them had him more posting more. So if he was scum or town I would have expected him to post more than he did. In the scum game he started with a lot of shallow post like his first 4 but in that same game he had about 10 posts a day.



My logic is very much independant of rooster actual flip. Will have to get the details of the wagon throughout day one. As my analysis very much depends on the interplay. But generally i'm getting fishy feeling about the rooster wagon.

Rooster slot could still be scum. But I find in given pool size whether the pool is on scum or town. You always find at least one scum ¾ of the time.

[bob3141]

now on the highest wagon of the day

cliff wagon day one 8 votes. Elements, Hopkirk, Gamma Emerald, Billy Pilgrim, Carcalilly, Hectic, tchill13

x, Hopkirk, x, Billy Pilgrim, x, Hectic, tchill13 <minus dead and carc the claimed mason

The nature of wagon depends on if cliff is town or scum

If cliff ever flips town

highly likely one of hop, Billy, Hectic and tchill is scum.

With the possibility remaining if clifff is scum. Though that then more depends if any of those votes look fishy

[bob3141]

tommorrow im going to make my self with post tracking teh votes through out day one. Mostly for my own use so i can use post links to analysis it like last game

[Rick Dalton]

In my nightmares I see myself and the rest of town too stubborn to lynch scum!Dalton because even though he's scummily glazing by, it's not "scum indicative for him" or some shit.

It’s okay, you can say it. I’m just too charming.

[Rick Dalton]

Dalton, do you keep Cliff in your townblock? Is it for the gimmick or do you have an intricate reason?
And I'm going to assume your joking about the mason shit, but like it or not, I'm conftown for today.

Pretty sure answered this yesterday, and was like a main talking point.

However, I wouldn’t say he’s in my town block, but he is a lean town read, but I still soul read him.

[Rick Dalton]

In my nightmares I see myself and the rest of town too stubborn to lynch scum!Dalton because even though he's scummily glazing by, it's not "scum indicative for him" or some shit.

To be fair, Rick’s actions thus far are par for the course. If we have a vig he or she should just kill Rick.

Youknow I’ve only been vigged once when I was town? Wait, no, twice.

In my near 6 years on site.

Also, this is scummy of Gobbledygook, because he acts like I’m Vig worthy when just about every “par for the course” game I’ve had with him, i’ve Been town with a correct solve. This might only be a sample size of one, but I hard pushed him when he was a SK, Something I have a lot of accuracy and result doing. Check Tttt in Pokemon Upick.

[Rick Dalton]

Also, he states par for the course like I’ve played more than one game with him.

hard FOS: Gobbledy

For that blatant chop at me

[Rick Dalton]

In my nightmares I see myself and the rest of town too stubborn to lynch scum!Dalton because even though he's scummily glazing by, it's not "scum indicative for him" or some shit.

To be fair, Rick’s actions thus far are par for the course. If we have a vig he or she should just kill Rick.

Exactly why I am having anxieties right now

This is also weak, because neither of you guys have ever played with ScumMe.

So the fact you guys say “par for the course” is borderline scumslip.

Especially you Carca. You’re obvscum now

[Rick Dalton]

Yes, because Scum would claim Voyeur of all the roles on the wiki. COME ON!

Scum!Garmr claimed voyeur because it uses the exactly the information that they had. When Gamma turned up dead, it would be easy to assume that the doc was on Carca. But they don't know who the doc is. Partly it's the timing of the claim for me. I don't think town!Garmr would have claimed. How likely is it that town has a watcher and a voyeur?

What does voyeur and Watcher have anything to cancel out about? If anything there’s synergy in it.