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[Cliff Booth]

JJD... are you SURE nothing weird happened last night... like... really sure

[Cliff Booth]

how about this. if something weird happened last night, would you tell me? what if I said please

[Carcalilly]

I'm pretty sure scum would night target a confirmed town anyway, and what's the point of letting any doctor waste a night protecting me when they could actually have a chance with someone else? Literally no point of me keeping it a secret.

The point is.. if I was scum and I did NOT know you were Ascetic I would suspect the Doctor must be on you, so I would NOT try to shoot you. You are an IC now (a single Mason is by definition an Innocent Child) so why make such a suicidal move? I guess it's probably a playstyle thing maybe.

Yes but what if the doctor actually DOES attempt a save? Isn't it kind of a waste?

But at least you all don't have to worry about the NK. I'll try to work extra hard in the next few weeks on this game and I expect a solid effort from everyone.

Tchill is bad but by no means should we just quicklynch him.

Tchill, who are your scumbuddies?

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

OH is there a thing going on here! if so I think I know what it is!!!

I'm glad you noticed, although I was trying to as subtle as a double-floor London bus is an empty street.

[Cliff Booth]

if richard is one of them I will [redacted] if you just be honest with us

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

how about this. if something weird happened last night, would you tell me? what if I said please

I already told you I doused you. Just sit tight and wait for ignition.

But seriously, if something "out of the ordinary" happened to you I am not responsible. If it's something that can be expected in a Normal game then I did it.. whatever it is.

[Cliff Booth]

I thought something smelled funny

[profii]

Why do you want to be lynched?

Oh eth0s

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

I thought something smelled funny

SORRY. I did eat some cabbage and beans.

[Rick Dalton]

only compared to you almighty Titus

Thanks for the sarcasm but strategy is my thing. People reading, not so much.

If Garmr white lies, he protects you, making him probably town.

If it's mid error, we all should be informed and corrected b4 ppl rely on it.

People reading and hyper analyzing in a sociological manner is my thing

If I don't annoy the shit out of you, we should hydrae sometime but you gotta take point D1 barring a stupid amount of data to play with.

Sounds good, I’m good at floating around early game.

[Rick Dalton]

Richard my old friend, do you know what my role is based on the post I made about my role potentially being useless this game if it's role madness

No, even as people only look into the atmospheric nature, do you think I would know this from the beginning?

[Rick Dalton]

Carcalilly’s not actually a mason. She’s covering for Gamma’s real mason partner to draw the no.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

^I thought I saw that crumb but didn't want to say it aloud.

[Garmr]

I just realized something.

@Garmr

this is really important.

I was your target, correct?

Yeah you were my target.

Your action should have failed.

I lied about the doc so you wouldn't get night killed but I didn't get a fail through I got no result implying that the action went through and no one was there.

[Billy Pilgrim]

Wait, if we know Garmr lied about his target, what was going on there? And if he lied about his target why aren't people voting him? I feel like 90 percent of this game is like 3 miles over my head.

VOTE: Garmr

Pedit: shit Garmr lying about a PR this feels familiar.

VOTE: tchill

[Garmr]

Wait, if we know Garmr lied about his target, what was going on there? And if he lied about his target why aren't people voting him? I feel like 90 percent of this game is like 3 miles over my head.

VOTE: Garmr

Pedit: shit Garmr lying about a PR this feels familiar.

VOTE: tchill

I didn't lie about my target I lied about my result but

carralilly acted daft

and didn't realise I was trying to protect her by creating a imaginary doctor for scum to hunt after......

Also the fact the mod said

no result

instead of

action failed

made believe my action was a success.

[Garmr]

Also carra should of claimed ascetic because she wasted my ability.

[profii]

Wow

[Billy Pilgrim]

So maybe this game isn't role madness and all of our prs have just outted themselves. Fun.

[EeveeLution Army]

Wait, if we know Garmr lied about his target, what was going on there? And if he lied about his target why aren't people voting him? I feel like 90 percent of this game is like 3 miles over my head.

VOTE: Garmr

Pedit: shit Garmr lying about a PR this feels familiar.

VOTE: tchill

I didn't lie about my target I lied about my result but

carralilly acted daft

and didn't realise I was trying to protect her by creating a imaginary doctor for scum to hunt after......

Also the fact the mod said

no result

instead of

action failed

made believe my action was a success.

Psure no result means the role was stopped someway. "Nothing targeted" would be the correct format for a null inspect right?

[Garmr]

Wait, if we know Garmr lied about his target, what was going on there? And if he lied about his target why aren't people voting him? I feel like 90 percent of this game is like 3 miles over my head.

VOTE: Garmr

Pedit: shit Garmr lying about a PR this feels familiar.

VOTE: tchill

I didn't lie about my target I lied about my result but

carralilly acted daft

and didn't realise I was trying to protect her by creating a imaginary doctor for scum to hunt after......

Also the fact the mod said

no result

instead of

action failed

made believe my action was a success.

Psure no result means the role was stopped someway. "Nothing targeted" would be the correct format for a null inspect right?

Would that mean a roleblocker targeted me then?

[Alonzo]

Tchill, last time we played you said ' I really look forward to playing town with you guys some day'
So get out here and play a little town, or I'm moving my vote

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

So maybe this game isn't role madness and all of our prs have just outted themselves. Fun.

Not all of them. I am sitting tight with my lips sealed.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

Would that mean a roleblocker targeted me then?

No. No Result is the correct format for this sight. It's in the wiki. You get "No actions were performed on your target" if you target someone who can be targeted and wasn't visited by anyone else. You get "C, Y & Z actions were performed on your target" if you target someone who can be targeted and was also targeted by others. You get "No Result" if you target an Ascetic, a Commuter, a Hider, a target that was made Ascetic by being targeted by a Rolestopper, just as well as if you yourself have been RB'd or JK'd.

[Hopkirk]

And rooster looked like a rather lazy bandwagon. As his lack of posting wasnt evidance that could be used for him being scum. As if anyone checked his games they could tell he doesnt lurk as scum.

Naked votes yes but not lurking.

And if a player isnt posting he clearly aint playing

This logic only works if you assume he subbed out without any legit reason. Did you check whether he's super disengaged/subs out as town? Doesn't hold up and I don't see why you TR the slot.

I am not a fan of Bob. He initially voted for Elements for reasons 'setup spec'ing very early' etc

He then left the wagon, but came back when the lynch actually went through and when he put his vote on he said he didn't believe the macho/one shot claim.

My concern is that if I am casing a slot for being scummy I'd be like "woah guys I'm voting elements because he was setup speccing over in this post, plus now look at this macho claim it's gotta be BS" - i.e. case the whole ISO for a scum evidence - Bob didnt mention his initial setup spec concern when he votes due to his claim concern, which makes me believe he is looking for a reason to be on the wagon rather than actual scum hunting properly.

VOTE: Bob3141

Obviously I will hear him out but I'm just going to vote there for now.

I've looked at Tchill's ISO and someone is going to have to take me through the case here, he doesn't come across super town of the players I've looked at so far but I dont think he is the most scummy either at this point unless I've missed something of course.

That seems pretty reachy to me. Are you going to pick out everyone that voted for elements early in day one. By the time elementis made his watcher claim i was already sorting him as town. With me even calling out those who continued to push him.

Wasn't with till after his one shot macho watcher claim plus himself voting that made me reluctantly vote for him.

Straight watcher i believed. Macho watcher could be possible role but no townie should have mentioned the macho bit. Added to all that self voting. It just looked bad for town

Oneshot talk tipped me over the edge when it came to voting for him. I cant see why he mentioned that as he flipped just a macho watcher. I wonder if he was responding to once

per a night

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I find it odd you overlook my scum hunting aswell. Did you not think kop has been scummy this game. Has he not done anything in your opinion to justify my vote on him before the wtacher saga. For you to think that doesnt even count as scum hunting.

He has yet to answer any of my points i think

This is basically the same as me. Leaned town just before the watcher claim, scumlean on the 'I can't paraphrase the thing that suggests it's one shot' then policy lynch on the self vote.


Also @Elements: you could have really easily paraphased that 'it says once per game but doesn't say one shot' would be fine right?