Minvitational 8 - OVER before 611

[shaft.ed]

Why the concern, shaft.ed?

You say the unvote is "a bit strange", but could you flesh out how that oddness translates into scumminess?

I've addressed this in my back and forth with CKD, please refer to those posts.

[Oman]

'Splosion.

Posting tomorrow.

[Adel]

@ shaft.ed would you call my play in this game conservative? It is the most recent game to end where I was town.

[Simenon]

I didn't see any

openings

in his answer to

exploit

further .

Excuse me?

unvote vote: Jitsu

Unvote
Vote shaft.ed

Utterly opportunistic. This has to be a deliberate attempt to take that out of context, since I don't see how a townie who read the full post of Jitsu's couldn't understand his intention. Furthermore, he bolds some words in an attempt to distract from the larger picture.

I agree with Adel that vollkan looks likes he's trying to set up the Jitsu lynch. However, I'm not sure he would be if shaft.ed isn't scum, so I prefer this wagon.

[Adel]

I didn't see any

openings

in his answer to

exploit

further .

Excuse me?

unvote vote: Jitsu

Unvote
Vote shaft.ed

Utterly opportunistic. This has to be a deliberate attempt to take that out of context, since I don't see how a townie who read the full post of Jitsu's couldn't understand his intention. Furthermore, he bolds some words in an attempt to distract from the larger picture.

I agree with Adel that vollkan looks likes he's trying to set up the Jitsu lynch. However, I'm not sure he would be if shaft.ed isn't scum, so I prefer this wagon.

I see Vollkan's attack as being more opportunistic than shaft.ed's. That post seems more like scum distancing to me than a genuine shaft.ed-scum attacking a townie. Shaft.ed's post got a little bit of attention on Jitsu, while Vollkan's seems like a real push.

[The Fonz]

I didn't see any

openings

in his answer to

exploit

further .

Excuse me?

unvote vote: Jitsu

Unvote
Vote shaft.ed

Utterly opportunistic. This has to be a deliberate attempt to take that out of context, since I don't see how a townie who read the full post of Jitsu's couldn't understand his intention. Furthermore, he bolds some words in an attempt to distract from the larger picture.

I agree with Adel that vollkan looks likes he's trying to set up the Jitsu lynch. However, I'm not sure he would be if shaft.ed isn't scum, so I prefer this wagon.

Yay!

Fwiw, I don't think it's uncommon for Adel to play like this on day one. I certainly haven't ever seen her feel the need to press some huge gambit straight out the gate. At least, not when she's town.

[mith]

Vote Count 9

Oman[3] (Erg0, vollkan, Shanba)
Shanba[2] (Jitsu, Oman)
shaft.ed[2] (The Fonz, Simenon)
Erg0[1] (cicero)
Simenon[1] (BillyTwilight)
Jitsu[1] (shaft.ed)
vollkan[1] (Adel)


Not Voting[1] (curiouskarmadog)

[shaft.ed]

@ shaft.ed would you call my play in this game conservative? It is the most recent game to end where I was town.

I'll give it a read.

Simenon, you can't tell me that doesn't look like an unconcious slip up. Jitsu's never been scum, I think it warrants pressure.

[shaft.ed]

@ shaft.ed would you call my play in this game conservative? It is the most recent game to end where I was town.

Adel you replaced in halfway through the game, that's not comparable. My point is that the protown Adel I have always played with is a pot stirrer on D1, more so than the scum Adel I have played with.

[Adel]

Does this pot need stirring?

[shaft.ed]

Does this pot need stirring?

Not at the moment.

[Adel]

I think you need a new wagon shaft.ed, I don't think the Jitsu one is going anywhere. There is plenty of room up here though. Wanna wagon Vollkan with me for a while?

[shaft.ed]

I think you need a new wagon shaft.ed, I don't think the Jitsu one is going anywhere. There is plenty of room up here though. Wanna wagon Vollkan with me for a while?

I'm waiting for replies from Jitsu and vollkan.

vollkan is not looking that scummy to me.

[Oman]

I didn't see any

openings

in his answer to

exploit

further .

Excuse me?

unvote vote: Jitsu

Unvote
Vote shaft.ed

Utterly opportunistic. This has to be a deliberate attempt to take that out of context, since I don't see how a townie who read the full post of Jitsu's couldn't understand his intention. Furthermore, he bolds some words in an attempt to distract from the larger picture.

I agree with Adel that vollkan looks likes he's trying to set up the Jitsu lynch. However, I'm not sure he would be if shaft.ed isn't scum, so I prefer this wagon.

I agree completely.

I will not be voting yet, because I want to see which of these wagons I like better. Shaft.ed's can be easily explained away, but Vollkan's is just a feel from Adel (which I don't quite get myself).

I think Shaft.ed has been bothering me more than Vollkan so far...

I'm going to take an uncharacteristic turn and not jump straight away.

[vollkan]

unvote cicero, vote vollkan

223 does not seem sincere to me. I suspect he thinks that he will be able to get a mislynch on Jitsu more easily than the other players in this game.

You're using words prescriptive of the outcome. Saying my post "does not seem sincere" is no different to saying "it seems scummy", which is not an explanation of what you find scummy or anything; it's simply labelling it scummy but using a slightly more specific word.

Thus, it's mere assertion, and the fact that you presume scummy motivations (bringing down a weak link) is conspiracy.

I agree with Adel that vollkan looks likes he's trying to set up the Jitsu lynch. However, I'm not sure he would be if shaft.ed isn't scum, so I prefer this wagon.

Were my criticisms of Jitsu invalid? If not, why was it wrong of me to make them? It's easy to spin somebody criticising another into them "setting up a lynch", but it's ultimately just a conspiracy.

[Adel]

yeah, but like chunky milk, you just don't pass the smell test.

[Erg0]

Sorry all, I've fallen horribly behind. Catching up over the next day or so.

[Simenon]

Simenon, you can't tell me that doesn't look like an unconcious slip up. Jitsu's never been scum, I think it warrants pressure.

With or without the context?
I exploited an opening when I voted for you. vollkan spotted an opening through which he could attack Jitsu.
It's uncommon terminology, but it makes sense.

Vollkan: It's a gut feeling based around the timing of your post and shaf.ted's post. It's not worth voting on.

[shaft.ed]

Simenon, you can't tell me that doesn't look like an unconcious slip up. Jitsu's never been scum, I think it warrants pressure.

With or without the context?

If it's an unconcious slip up the context is irrelevant.

[quore="Sim"]I exploited an opening when I voted for you. vollkan spotted an opening through which he could attack Jitsu.
It's uncommon terminology, but it makes sense.[/quote]I guess I understand a different meaning of the word exploit than you. To me it's much more taking advantage of a situation to wrongly benefit yourself at another's expense. But consulting the dictionary I see that's not always the case. I've still never seen it used in such a context.

Mod: can we also get a BillyTwilight prod?

[shaft.ed]

Bah I fail at life,

mith if you could be so kind as to mend my quore tags?

[shaft.ed]

I didn't see any

openings

in his answer to

exploit

further .

Excuse me?

unvote vote: Jitsu

Unvote
Vote shaft.ed

Utterly opportunistic. This has to be a deliberate attempt to take that out of context, since I don't see how a townie who read the full post of Jitsu's couldn't understand his intention. Furthermore, he bolds some words in an attempt to distract from the larger picture.

I agree with Adel that vollkan looks likes he's trying to set up the Jitsu lynch. However, I'm not sure he would be if shaft.ed isn't scum, so I prefer this wagon.

Yay!

Fwiw, I don't think it's uncommon for Adel to play like this on day one. I certainly haven't ever seen her feel the need to press some huge gambit straight out the gate. At least, not when she's town.

Who's lurking in plain site again?

[Adel]

I guess I understand a different meaning of the word exploit than you. To me it's much more taking advantage of a situation to wrongly benefit yourself at another's expense. But consulting the dictionary I see that's not always the case. I've still never seen it used in such a context.

I commonly hear it in meatspace referring to "an opening to a solution". I don't think it is a valid scummy slip.

[The Fonz]

Who's lurking in plain site again?

That would be you.

[Simenon]

Simenon, you can't tell me that doesn't look like an unconcious slip up. Jitsu's never been scum, I think it warrants pressure.

With or without the context?

If it's an unconcious slip up the context is irrelevant.

The context determines whether it can be judged a slip up or not.

I exploited an opening when I voted for you. vollkan spotted an opening through which he could attack Jitsu.
It's uncommon terminology, but it makes sense.

I guess I understand a different meaning of the word exploit than you. To me it's much more taking advantage of a situation to wrongly benefit yourself at another's expense. But consulting the dictionary I see that's not always the case. I've still never seen it used in such a context.

It frequently is used to mean "to seize a chance."

[Guardian]

Hi guys!