California Trilogy - Going to San Francisco (Game Over!)

destructor · Post Post #1150 (ISO) » Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:14 am

And if Rogueben is town or non-SCAPE, where would you look?

I remember seeing something somewhere that made me think Rogueben and Niv weren't scum together. I'll go and look for it.

Gaspar and Thesp - Assuming the whole "no night action" thing is a nulltell, would that change your read of Michel?

Thesp · Post Post #1151 (ISO) » Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:01 am

destructor wrote:Gaspar and Thesp - Assuming the whole "no night action" thing is a nulltell, would that change your read of Michel?

Pretty substantially, but I don't think it's a null-tell (obv).

MeMe · Post Post #1152 (ISO) » Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:06 pm

destructor wrote:MeMe, did you miss my post?

Erm...did you miss

this

one?

Xtoxm wrote:Thanks MeMe, just a filler or two would be great so my role doesn't go 72 hours without posting and need replacing, don't expect you to read the thread and contribute or anything

Basically, I haven't read the thread and am not planning on formulating theories and suspicions when I'm just here as a poster to keep Xtoxm from getting replaced. Sorry, pal.

MichelSableheart · Post Post #1153 (ISO) » Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:26 pm

Destructor wrote:What do people think about Xtox being the Zodiac Killer?

He's my top suspect for that role, closely followed by you. However, I'm more convinced that MBL and RogueBen are scum in general (without knowing to which scumgroup they belong).

Thesp wrote:
destructor wrote:
Thesp, what was it that MBL said than you were refering to here:
He said:
MrBuddyLee wrote:If I'm wrong, lynch me tomorrow.
Scum are less likely to use such a gambit, probably because they tend to regard their lives as more precious.

I only remember having seen that remark being made once: By Skruffs in mini 533, where Skruffs was a serial killer.

Mr. Grey · Post Post #1154 (ISO) » Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:59 am

Deadline:

Approximately 24 hours from this post.

Vote Count:

5 to lynch.

MrBuddyLee: 3 (MichelSableheart, Thesp, Xtoxm/MeMe)
Thesp: 2 (curiouskarmadog, destructor)
MichelSableheart: 1 (Rogueben)
Rogueben: 1 (Gaspar)

Current Condorcet Winner:

MrBuddyLee

To view the complete table of pairwise results, put this information in this form.

Mr. Grey · Post Post #1155 (ISO) » Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:01 am

MrBuddyLee has not posted in 72 hours and has received his first strike.

destructor · Post Post #1156 (ISO) » Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:17 am

MeMe wrote:
destructor wrote:MeMe, did you miss my post?
Erm...did you miss
this
one?
Xtoxm wrote:Thanks MeMe, just a filler or two would be great so my role doesn't go 72 hours without posting and need replacing, don't expect you to read the thread and contribute or anything
Basically, I haven't read the thread and am not planning on formulating theories and suspicions when I'm just here as a poster to keep Xtoxm from getting replaced. Sorry, pal.

I don't think you'd need to read the thread to respond to my question. I was asking for an opinion on theory more than anything else.

I'm also confused. If you're not expected to contribute, what's the point of filling in at all?

Michel, Nab said he investigated me and I wasn't the ZK. What made you think I'm second most likely to be it?

MichelSableheart · Post Post #1157 (ISO) » Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:19 am

Oops... Completely forgot that.

The fact that in 1.5 months, you still haven't caught up (even though you posted a month ago that you would finish it then); The fact that while you were rereading, you discussed mainly things that happened a couple of days ago, rather then commenting on what actually was going on; The fact that both your predecessors and you have been extremely low on content; it all makes you look as if you want to draw as little attention as possible. Rather then scumhunting, you make it look like you are participating, without actually doing anything.

That is behaviour I would expect from a serial killer. They don't care who is lynched, as long as it isn't them (as opposed to mafia, who have partners to protect). However, NabNab's investigation makes you an extremely unlikely candidate, I must admit. Thanks for reminding me.

MrBuddyLee · Post Post #1158 (ISO) » Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:53 am

No ways out. Life's bitten me on the ass, and this is probably an idiotic thing to do but I don't see any other way to survive in this game at this point.

I'm the Zodiac Killer. I have inside information on the setup, which explains why I know what's going on in the basement. I am NK-immune and if I encode a secret message in my posts each day, I earn a roleblock. I think, but am not positive, that I may be responsible for the dearth of nightkills this game, as I may have blocked kills twice. Which is why I strongly recommend we lynch MichelSableheart immediately. 95% certainty he is a member of SCAPE. And my role PM hints that the scumgroup is a group of women and their handler, so there's probably one more SCAPE out there in addition to the scum that is Michel.

Not that you have a reason to trust me over him, but you can kill me any time, including tomorrow, if I make a mistake.

The right play here is to use my NK to narrow down the number of scum. I've already hit two--plus the guy who was looking for me. Lynch Michel and tell me who to kill overnight. (Sorry, I had no choice there, as you can understand, otherwise the trap springs.)

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vote: MichelSableheart

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1159 (ISO) » Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:57 am

funny, I pressure you to provide your secret word, and you come out with this...please provide your secret word, now..and quit avoiding it...you have no reason to avoid or lie at this point, right?...

also interested in thesp's comment to this, since he thinks you are my scum buddy.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1160 (ISO) » Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:58 am

also for now..

unvote

Xtoxm · Post Post #1161 (ISO) » Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:50 am

MeMe wrote:
destructor wrote:MeMe, did you miss my post?
Erm...did you miss
this
one?
Xtoxm wrote:Thanks MeMe, just a filler or two would be great so my role doesn't go 72 hours without posting and need replacing, don't expect you to read the thread and contribute or anything
Basically, I haven't read the thread and am not planning on formulating theories and suspicions when I'm just here as a poster to keep Xtoxm from getting replaced. Sorry, pal.

Yeah that's all I wanted, thanks.

I'm back now...Yay!

Xtoxm · Post Post #1162 (ISO) » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:00 am

Oh wow, just read MBL's post.

Also, on the subject of me being the killer, I disagree. I already claimed too, btw

I've noticed a question directed at me about something to do with Gaspar's stance on MBL - I'm not really sure what you want from me...Could you please ask me again?

unvote

Mr. Grey · Post Post #1163 (ISO) » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:49 am

Deadline:

Approximately 16 hours from this post.

Vote Count:

5 to lynch.

MichelSableheart: 2 (MrBuddyLee, Rogueben)
MrBuddyLee: 2 (MichelSableheart, Thesp)
Thesp: 1 (destructor)
Rogueben: 1 (Gaspar)

Current Condorcet Winner:

MrBuddyLee

To view the complete table of pairwise results, put this information in this form.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1164 (ISO) » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:52 am

time is ticking away, what is your secret word MBL?

vote MBL

Xtoxm · Post Post #1165 (ISO) » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:59 am

Does it matter?

Everyone has one, don't they? I think they probably mean little/nothing.

Plus, he claimed scum. He doesn't really have to comply.

Anyways, don't think MBL is a good lynch, as if he's lying, and the real ZK is town, MBL will die tonight. (I think)

Not sure why MS is such a good alternative though.

Don't see case on RB being scum.

16 hours is quite little...So that'd be 1pm GMT.

Getting a wagon together doens't look to promising, unfortunately.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1166 (ISO) » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:30 am

not sure why X thinks that MBL will die tonight...why do you care if I want his secret word? You think I am asking for it for shits and giggles?...If MBL wants us to believe he is really trying to help the town, then he wont lie and will provide his word.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1167 (ISO) » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:39 am

He claimed scum, he is not trying to help the town. From his point of view, if he's an SK, then ideally i'd imagine he wants townies to die til lylo. So I think MS is prob a bad lynch.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1168 (ISO) » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:40 am

so why is MBL a bad lynch?

Xtoxm · Post Post #1169 (ISO) » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:42 am

Because, if he is lying (ie he is SACPE) and the real ZK is a vig (pro-town) then the vig will off him tonight. So, I don't think he's the best lynch for today.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1170 (ISO) » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:44 am

how do you know that the "real ZK" is a vig? Why cant MBL be the ZK which is a SK?

Xtoxm · Post Post #1171 (ISO) » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:46 am

- I don't.
- He can.

But it's a possibility.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1172 (ISO) » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:47 am

Anyway, I think most likely he's telling the truth.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1173 (ISO) » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:48 am

why do you think we have a vig?

why cant MBL be a SK?

are you following the game?

MichelSableheart · Post Post #1174 (ISO) » Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:15 am

MBL, if you are indeed the Zodiac Killer, the right play is obviously to get rid of the only nightkill we have seen so far, and lynch scum with 100% certainty. Especially considering the fact that I am 100% certain my lynch would be the lynch of an innocent.

I don't believe for one moment that MBL is playing to survive just another day. He is actually trying to win the game. It is not a good idea to see what he has in store for tomorrow.

And about his claim that he is responsible for the lack of nightkills by blocking me? Let's leave that for tomorrow, when we actually will have the time to discuss things, rather then the 14 hours he has left us.

Oh, and Xtoxm: unless you have very strong evidence, please don't make the ridiculous assumption that the Zodiac Killer is town.