CoheedCambria09 wrote:Popular, your post on the Alvinz/Elias connection is very convincing. You picked up things I wouldnt have. I'll have to keep a closer on on elias today.
What was the "mmmm." meaning? It kind of confused me to as how you felt.
Mmmm = thinking.
Any reason why you investigated MM? Who was your second option and why?
Elias_the_thief wrote:I will have a detailed post later today explaining exactly why this connection case is retarded and probably lead by scum tajo. tata for now.
Lulz. Retarded FTW again? This should be fun. I want my revenge.
I investigated MM because of the doc claim. The claim seemed suspicious to me. To power roles in one day seems unlikely.
Second in line was Evilz. No particular reason other than I have been suspicious of him (gut feeling) and it would bring closure for me to know where he stood.
CoheedCambria09 wrote:I investigated MM because of the doc claim. The claim seemed suspicious to me. To power roles in one day seems unlikely.
Second in line was Evilz. No particular reason other than I have been suspicious of him (gut feeling) and it would bring closure for me to know where he stood.
Elias_the_thief wrote:I will have a detailed post later today explaining exactly why this connection case is retarded and probably lead by scum tajo. tata for now.
Lulz. Retarded FTW again? This should be fun. I want my revenge.
Elias_the_thief wrote:I will have a detailed post later today explaining exactly why this connection case is retarded and probably lead by scum tajo. tata for now.
Lulz. Retarded FTW again? This should be fun. I want my revenge.
At the expense of the town?
You know Im not scum Elias.
If you were town you wouldnt suspect me. And you dont need a detailed post to say why that connection is retarded and why I am scum, unless you exactly dont know what to say.
populartajo wrote:If you were town you wouldnt suspect me.
[devil'sadvocate]Why not? You were scummy yesterday and now you are tying him to the godfather.[/devil'sadvocate]
I make a decent case against him (he should have expected it as Im expecting someone to make a case agaisnt me) and he inmediately says that all this is generated by tajoscum. Really? I guess this also means you're also my scumpartner. Yeah, right.
populartajo wrote:If you were town you wouldnt suspect me.
[devil'sadvocate]Why not? You were scummy yesterday and now you are tying him to the godfather.[/devil'sadvocate]
I make a decent case against him (he should have expected it as Im expecting someone to make a case agaisnt me) and he inmediately says that all this is generated by tajoscum. Really? I guess this also means you're also my scumpartner. Yeah, right.
populartajo wrote:If you were town you wouldnt suspect me.
[devil'sadvocate]Why not? You were scummy yesterday and now you are tying him to the godfather.[/devil'sadvocate]
I make a decent case against him (he should have expected it as Im expecting someone to make a case agaisnt me) and he inmediately says that all this is generated by tajoscum. Really? I guess this also means you're also my scumpartner. Yeah, right.
This doesn't answer my question.
Oh yes it does. If he were town he wouldnt have said I am scum.
populartajo wrote:If you were town you wouldnt suspect me.
[devil'sadvocate]Why not? You were scummy yesterday and now you are tying him to the godfather.[/devil'sadvocate]
I make a decent case against him (he should have expected it as Im expecting someone to make a case agaisnt me) and he inmediately says that all this is generated by tajoscum. Really? I guess this also means you're also my scumpartner. Yeah, right.
This doesn't answer my question.
Oh yes it does. If he were town he wouldnt have said I am scum.
You are simply restating what I'm asking you about!
populartajo wrote:If you were town you wouldnt suspect me.
[devil'sadvocate]Why not? You were scummy yesterday and now you are tying him to the godfather.[/devil'sadvocate]
I make a decent case against him (he should have expected it as Im expecting someone to make a case agaisnt me) and he inmediately says that all this is generated by tajoscum. Really? I guess this also means you're also my scumpartner. Yeah, right.
This doesn't answer my question.
Oh yes it does. If he were town he wouldnt have said I am scum.
You are simply restating what I'm asking you about!
WHY
would he think you are not scum??
What exactly do you want? There are many reasons why he would think I am not scum. The one Im looking for is that he's probable scum, therefore he knows my allingment, although he could be town playing poorly but I doubt it knowing him as scum. My point is why he, assuming he's town, would say this is all orchestrated by tajoscum when my case is extremely decent against him.
CoheedCambria09 wrote:Well, I came home today and logged in and saw this game was day again, but guess what, no pm from patty. So I come in here and see that Mellowed was killed I had investigated him after he cliamed doc (two power claims, suspicious) and i assumed thats why I never got a pm telling me his alignment.
Assuming you're telling the truth, make sure you ask him for your result. It will help with finding your sanity immensely.
And popular, didn't you say that you thought alvinz was town yesterday?
CoheedCambria09 wrote:Well, I came home today and logged in and saw this game was day again, but guess what, no pm from patty. So I come in here and see that Mellowed was killed I had investigated him after he cliamed doc (two power claims, suspicious) and i assumed thats why I never got a pm telling me his alignment.
Assuming you're telling the truth, make sure you ask him for your result. It will help with finding your sanity immensely.
And popular, didn't you say that you thought alvinz was town yesterday?
People get bad reads. Alvinz early play (defense against Cream is notable) was very similar to the silly cop in NG556. What are you trying to say?
Elias_the_thief wrote:I will have a detailed post later today explaining exactly why this connection case is retarded and probably lead by scum tajo. tata for now.
Lulz. Retarded FTW again? This should be fun. I want my revenge.
At the expense of the town?
You know Im not scum Elias.
If you were town you wouldnt suspect me. And you dont need a detailed post to say why that connection is retarded and why I am scum, unless you exactly dont know what to say.
by detailed i mean more than two sentences and I'm too busy to write it now i have a chem final tomorrow and studying takes precendence, ive just been on the site once in a while to check on things. Thinking youre scum makes me scum? How does that one work?
Elias_the_thief wrote:by detailed i mean more than two sentences and I'm too busy to write it now i have a chem final tomorrow and studying takes precendence, ive just been on the site once in a while to check on things. Thinking youre scum makes me scum? How does that one work?
IMO, you're scum for the strange relationship you had with Alvinz all D1. Blaming me and calling me scum for "leading" a decent case against you didnt help you very much. Using that logic, anyone that had catched that interaction would have been scum? See my point?
Check my big post for details about that interaction but if you want a summary its pretty obvious that Alvinz tried to bus you subtly at the beginning of the game ("hey, it might") but when things seemed to get out of control he almost defends you.
Alvinz wrote:I agree. I leaning towards Elias because he is definitely experienced, (2128 posts!), and his scum record is considerably high and has been scum 11 times (not like it has anything to do with this game, but hey, it might! ). IC's usually won't lurk like that.
I'm not sure at all, but if there is one scum in those group of lurkers, then I'd say Elias.
This is his inmediate next post:
I don't think Elias is scum at all (lynch all lurkers is a bad policy), but, what I meant was that if there was scum in that group then I would say Elias. I'm not starting a wagon at all. I was just agreeing with Gaspode on the lurker opinion and giving a thought on it.
Non of that was "evidence" to support a Elias lynch, because he is BY FAR, not on my scum list, because lynching someone just because they are lurking is not townly at all, especially if they have only posted one thing.
The scum record was just tagged in for fun hence the parenthesis and "not like it has anything to do with this game, but hey, it might" which shows that it was merely a small joke
We have already stated that Alvinz was probably scum for the first time and that "neutral-almost townie- I dont have a read" players are his possible scumpartners.
I dont have time for the extensive post I wanted. However, the initial attack is easily explained as a newbie mistake, the times when he goes back and exaggerates are clearly caused by the fact that hes taking heat for calling me suspicious, the obvious response is to take it all back, which is what he did. Those posts are a result of backpedaling scum, and have nothing to do with a supposed relationship. This is almost insanely obvious if you read back, which is why its scummy of you to push this as a case. It is also scummy of you to push this because a connection case without any evidence of the supposed partner whos alive being scum is unreliable, the evidence is completely unreadable as it could be buddying up or actually showing a relationship. Present a decent case independant of connections and then you might have an inkling of a case. As it stands pushing this as lynchworthy is ridiculous, and for a player of your caliber, scummy. The fact that you thought Alvin was town yesterday is just about as reliable as the case youre pushing on me.
populartajo wrote:If you were town you wouldnt suspect me.
[devil'sadvocate]Why not? You were scummy yesterday and now you are tying him to the godfather.[/devil'sadvocate]
I make a decent case against him (he should have expected it as Im expecting someone to make a case agaisnt me) and he inmediately says that all this is generated by tajoscum. Really? I guess this also means you're also my scumpartner. Yeah, right.
This doesn't answer my question.
Oh yes it does. If he were town he wouldnt have said I am scum.
You are simply restating what I'm asking you about!
WHY
would he think you are not scum??
What exactly do you want? There are many reasons why he would think I am not scum. The one Im looking for is that he's probable scum, therefore he knows my allingment, although he could be town playing poorly but I doubt it knowing him as scum. My point is why he, assuming he's town, would say this is all orchestrated by tajoscum when my case is extremely decent against him.
My god popular, you are not making any sense. Let me try this one more time. If he is town, why
wouldn't[
he think you're scum? Just because your case is "good" doesn't mean you can't be scum. Can you
CoheedCambria09 wrote:Well, I came home today and logged in and saw this game was day again, but guess what, no pm from patty. So I come in here and see that Mellowed was killed I had investigated him after he cliamed doc (two power claims, suspicious) and i assumed thats why I never got a pm telling me his alignment.
Assuming you're telling the truth, make sure you ask him for your result. It will help with finding your sanity immensely.
And popular, didn't you say that you thought alvinz was town yesterday?
I would imagine his lack of result means either a) Coheed is lying, or b) Coheed was blocked last night. Second seems pretty likely though, since I think alvinz let slip that the mafia have a roleblocker.
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