Mini 610: Ace Attorney Mafia - Game Over!!

Natirasha · Post Post #175 (ISO) » Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:04 am

populartajo wrote:
Cream147 wrote:
Matt_S wrote:This whole "put on" thing seems kind of put on. Nobody saw it that way until Natirasha brought it up. It seems to be nothing but a distraction.
Well...Natirasha saw it before he brought it up. If you read the conversation and can't see how it feels a bit put on, then...well...I don't know.

I unvoted Theo because he hasn't really seemed scummy to me since that 1 post early on.
And why did you vote him?
I mean, what did he do for you deciding to unvote him?

Probably the bandwagon on Theo when he voted for the defendant.

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Non-Jurors:

**Babygirl86: (1/7) {Mirth}
Joubert: (0/7)
Matt_S: (0/7)
Natirasha: (0/7)
populartajo: (0/7)

Jurors

ChiefSkye4: (0/6, 0/1)
Cream147: (0/6, 0/1)
Gorrad: (0/6, 0/1)
malthusis: (0/6, 0/1)
Mirth: (2/6, 3/1) {Gorrad, malthusis}, Joubert, Natirasha, babygirl86
SlySly: (0/6, 0/1)
theopor_COD: (0/6, 1/1) populartajo

Not Voting: (5/12) ChiefSkye4, Matt_S, SlySly, theopor_COD, Cream147

Deadline for D1: Saturday June 29, 6:15PM GMT+10
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Mirth · Post Post #176 (ISO) » Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:33 am

Natirasha wrote:
Mirth wrote:
Cream147 wrote:
Matt_S wrote:This whole "put on" thing seems kind of put on. Nobody saw it that way until Natirasha brought it up. It seems to be nothing but a distraction.
Well...Natirasha saw it before he brought it up. If you read the conversation and can't see how it feels a bit put on, then...well...I don't know.
Except that it wasn't. I don't like how this implicitly seems to be saying that just because y'all think you see it it must be there. Maybe it was maybe it wasn't. You can't be sure.
Or, maybe, we see it, and you don't. Different people read things different ways. Plus, on this matter, your opinion doesn't count--you are one of the people in the conversation.

Noted that you're blatantly ignoring even the possibility that my explanation is honest. Also noted how hard you're pushing.

Also Tajo has a point. If it was the wagon on Theo (not a big one at all), why did Cream unvote now as opposed to before when there were more votes on Theo. Why are you defending Cream?

Natirasha · Post Post #177 (ISO) » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:09 am

Mirth wrote:Noted that you're blatantly ignoring even the possibility that my explanation is honest. Also noted how hard you're pushing.

I never said there wasn't the possibility, I just made a call and I think it's more likely the conversation is put-on.

Also Tajo has a point. If it was the wagon on Theo (not a big one at all), why did Cream unvote now as opposed to before when there were more votes on Theo. Why are you defending Cream?

What is it with you and Tajo? You guys have been buddying up all day, backing each other whenever possible.

Anyways, I am not defending Cream. I actually wouldn't, for reasons concerning an ongoing game, I'm simply stating the obvius answer, in my eyes.

Mirth · Post Post #178 (ISO) » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:14 am

Natirasha wrote: What is it with you and Tajo? You guys have been buddying up all day, backing each other whenever possible.

Um what? Saying someone has a point is defending them now? Really?

Natirasha · Post Post #179 (ISO) » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:43 am

No, I just re-read the last few pages. You guys have indirectly teamed up against me, bouncing off each others arguments towards everything.

populartajo · Post Post #180 (ISO) » Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:08 am

Natirasha wrote:No, I just re-read the last few pages. You guys have indirectly teamed up against me, bouncing off each others arguments towards everything.

When was I against you?

populartajo · Post Post #181 (ISO) » Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:08 am

populartajo wrote:
Natirasha wrote:No, I just re-read the last few pages. You guys have indirectly teamed up against me, bouncing off each others arguments towards everything.
When was I against you?

EBWOP
Define towards everything.

Matt_S · Post Post #182 (ISO) » Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:25 pm

I find theo's lurking to be disturbing since he wanted to start conversation so badly yet is not saying a thing anymore. And these baseless accusations being flung back and forth are the perfect camouflage for scum trying to hide in the shadows. I don't think it's a coincidence that only half the town is posting during this put on conversation.

Mirth · Post Post #183 (ISO) » Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:31 pm

Matt_S wrote:I find theo's lurking to be disturbing since he wanted to start conversation so badly yet is not saying a thing anymore. And these baseless accusations being flung back and forth are the perfect camouflage for scum trying to hide in the shadows. I don't think it's a coincidence that only half the town is posting during this put on conversation.

Actually posting history says that some of the silent ones, including Theo, havent been posting anywhere for the past few days...

populartajo · Post Post #184 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:38 pm

Ok we know lurking isnt going to help town specially in this game.
We have to do something.
Although my vote doesnt mean anything, Id suggest the jury to vote for Cream that he's far suspicious than babygirl.
Reason : he unvotes Theo with no apparent reason.

ChiefSkye4
Cream147
Gorrad
malthusis
Mirth
SlySly
theopor_COD

Do all the members of the jury here think that Cream is less suspicious than babygirl?

Gorrad · Post Post #185 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:44 pm

populartajo wrote:Ok we know lurking isnt going to help town specially in this game.
We have to do something.
Although my vote doesnt mean anything, Id suggest the jury to vote for Cream that he's far suspicious than babygirl.
Reason : he unvotes Theo with no apparent reason.
ChiefSkye4
Cream147
Gorrad
malthusis
Mirth
SlySly
theopor_COD
Do all the members of the jury here think that Cream is less suspicious than babygirl?

Wow. My scummeter was at 9 with Mirth, but you're regestering a solid 8 with this post.

populartajo · Post Post #186 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:47 pm

Gorrad wrote:
populartajo wrote:Ok we know lurking isnt going to help town specially in this game.
We have to do something.
Although my vote doesnt mean anything, Id suggest the jury to vote for Cream that he's far suspicious than babygirl.
Reason : he unvotes Theo with no apparent reason.
ChiefSkye4
Cream147
Gorrad
malthusis
Mirth
SlySly
theopor_COD
Do all the members of the jury here think that Cream is less suspicious than babygirl?
Wow. My scummeter was at 9 with Mirth, but you're regestering a solid 8 with this post.

Explanation, Gorrad. Explanation.
And answer my question. Do you agree with a babygirl lynch?

Gorrad · Post Post #187 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:43 pm

You tell the jury (meaning you want this to be a lynch) to vote for someone on a weak reason because they're more scummy than babygirl. WOW. You completely fail to mention ANY of the other people under suspicion, and this is a fairly obvious ploy to direct attention away from Mirth and onto Cream. Wow.

populartajo · Post Post #188 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:54 pm

Gorrad wrote:You tell the jury (meaning you want this to be a lynch) to vote for someone on a weak reason because they're more scummy than babygirl. WOW. You completely fail to mention ANY of the other people under suspicion, and this is a fairly obvious ploy to direct attention away from Mirth and onto Cream. Wow.

I dont think Mirth is scum.
I think Cream has more possibilities of being scum than babygirl and even Mirth.
In fact Im almost sure babygirl is town.
What do you mean with ANY of the other people under suspicion? Can you name them? If you give me a decent case about anyone then I'll definetely push it since its TOTALLY BETTER than a player (babygirl) with no reason for a lynch.
Now.
Why dont you let Cream defend himself? I dont see any reason why he unvoted Theo, do you?
BTW Cream has posted in other game.

SlySly · Post Post #189 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:45 pm

I don't see the Mirth/Malth conversation as being put on. Mirth is striking me more as busy than she is as scummy.

IMO, Cream seems to have been a bit shady a few times so far.

Someone please remind me what the general consensus is about Babygirl's guilt or innocence? This is her trial and there sure seems to be a bit of focus deflection occurring.

Mirth · Post Post #190 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:00 pm

Hurray, conversation. Don't have time to comment now, tired want to sleep, will do so first chance I get (might not be tomorrow, but def Thurs at least)

Gorrad · Post Post #191 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:01 pm

It's too early to have a consensus at this point, but I think we're generally leaning towards innocent.

Cream147 · Post Post #192 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:25 pm

Sorry I haven't posted in a while, I just haven't had too much to say. I'm pretty sure that babygirl is innocent, I'm getting real frustrated townie vibes from her posts (and I don't blame her, though she could be more constructive and do a bit of scumhunting). My number one candidate for scum at the moment is mirth, but I don't feel particularly strong about that.

Just to clarify about my unvote popular, if someone is not my number 1 candidate, I prefer to not have my vote on them, unless there is a good reason to having my vote on them as a pose to the scummiest player.

Matt_S · Post Post #193 (ISO) » Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:28 am

Cream147 wrote:Sorry I haven't posted in a while, I just haven't had too much to say. I'm pretty sure that babygirl is innocent, I'm getting real frustrated townie vibes from her posts (and I don't blame her, though she could be more constructive and do a bit of scumhunting). My number one candidate for scum at the moment is mirth, but I don't feel particularly strong about that.

Just to clarify about my unvote popular, if someone is not my number 1 candidate, I prefer to not have my vote on them, unless there is a good reason to having my vote on them as a pose to the scummiest player.

Hmm... Your reason is poor, and popular's reason is poor. Popular is trying to get the pressure off Mirth, which I dislike. Cream is acting noncommittal, which I dislike. I'll

FOS them both

.

populartajo · Post Post #194 (ISO) » Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:42 am

Matt_S wrote:
Cream147 wrote:Sorry I haven't posted in a while, I just haven't had too much to say. I'm pretty sure that babygirl is innocent, I'm getting real frustrated townie vibes from her posts (and I don't blame her, though she could be more constructive and do a bit of scumhunting). My number one candidate for scum at the moment is mirth, but I don't feel particularly strong about that.

Just to clarify about my unvote popular, if someone is not my number 1 candidate, I prefer to not have my vote on them, unless there is a good reason to having my vote on them as a pose to the scummiest player.
Hmm... Your reason is poor, and popular's reason is poor. Popular is trying to get the pressure off Mirth, which I dislike. Cream is acting noncommittal, which I dislike. I'll
FOS them both
.

Why is my reason poor? Its as valid as we can get at this stage of the game. I mean look at his explanation. Who's your top suspect now, Cream?
We should also look Gorrad. I have a bad feeling about him. Mirth is neutral, IMO and Im not trying to get the pressure of her. Those ARE simply my reads.
My principal point is that babygirl is less scummy than pretty much everyone here and I wont be happy if we let the jury lynch her.
That's why my question to everyone in the jury is : Do you think babygirl is more summy than Cream or anyone else?. Also, if you have any decent case against someone then we should push it because for now babygirl is not a decent lycnh.

Matt_S · Post Post #195 (ISO) » Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:50 am

populartajo wrote:Also, if you have any decent case against someone then we should push it because for now babygirl is not a decent lycnh.

The fact that you're pushing this alternative using only Cream's unvote, while ignoring babygirl's unvote, is what's poor. What makes Cream a decent lynch and not babygirl?

populartajo · Post Post #196 (ISO) » Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:53 am

Matt_S wrote:
populartajo wrote:Also, if you have any decent case against someone then we should push it because for now babygirl is not a decent lycnh.
The fact that you're pushing this alternative using only Cream's unvote, while ignoring babygirl's unvote, is what's poor. What makes Cream a decent lynch and not babygirl?

Im assuming volkan didnt put a scum in the first trial.

Matt_S · Post Post #197 (ISO) » Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:56 am

populartajo wrote:
Matt_S wrote:
populartajo wrote:Also, if you have any decent case against someone then we should push it because for now babygirl is not a decent lycnh.
The fact that you're pushing this alternative using only Cream's unvote, while ignoring babygirl's unvote, is what's poor. What makes Cream a decent lynch and not babygirl?
Im assuming volkan didnt put a scum in the first trial.

Trying to outguess the mod? There's no reason to believe the defendant wasn't picked randomly.

Gorrad · Post Post #198 (ISO) » Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:07 pm

Matt_S wrote:
populartajo wrote:
Matt_S wrote:
populartajo wrote:Also, if you have any decent case against someone then we should push it because for now babygirl is not a decent lycnh.
The fact that you're pushing this alternative using only Cream's unvote, while ignoring babygirl's unvote, is what's poor. What makes Cream a decent lynch and not babygirl?
Im assuming volkan didnt put a scum in the first trial.
Trying to outguess the mod? There's no reason to believe the defendant wasn't picked randomly.

In fact, I've got a bloody good reason to assume that Vollkan had very little to do with who the defendant is. It would just be too unbalanced if the mod chose- AND it would be biased. It's either 100% random or someone besides Vollkan chose.

Natirasha · Post Post #199 (ISO) » Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:33 pm

populartajo wrote:
Matt_S wrote:
populartajo wrote:Also, if you have any decent case against someone then we should push it because for now babygirl is not a decent lycnh.
The fact that you're pushing this alternative using only Cream's unvote, while ignoring babygirl's unvote, is what's poor. What makes Cream a decent lynch and not babygirl?
Im assuming volkan didnt put a scum in the first trial.

That nails it. Wouldn't it be a tad overpowered if the town would be down a townie day one, no matter what happens?

unvote, vote: Populartajo

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