Mini 572 - Packrats (game over)

[Ether]

4 eldarad (Tiger Twins, Yosarian2, hasdgfas, TheSweatpantsNinja)
1 Mizzy (eldarad)
1 Yosarian2 (Y)

2 Unvote (Mizzy, Skruffs)

8 alive; 5 to lynch.

6/5 - Tiger Twins, Yosarian2, Mizzy, TheSweatpantsNinja, Y,

eldarad

1 hour and 26 minutes until the next block.

[Tiger Twins]

Look..

unless you think we have less than three scum, we are at lylo.

If we are at lylo, WHY are people posting without hammering eldarad, if eldarad is not scum?

This doesn't make sense.

I will be leaving for vacation on Monday. No idea what access I'll have after that. I will be a very angry tiger if we don't get a lynch.

Deadline post 1/5.

~Guardian

[Mizzy]

Happy birthday, Ether!

[hasdgfas]

Happy birthday, Ether!

[Yosarian2]

/posting

Also, I agree with Guardian.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Mizzy, why aren't you voting for eldarad?

[eldarad]

Mizzy, why aren't you voting for eldarad?

Certainly a question woth asking. I'd be interested in hearing the answer.

TSPN, Were/Are you satisfied with Mizzy's answer to "why aren't you voting for Capri?" on Day 1 (post 445)?

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

I guess, I mean, there's a difference between Day 1 and lylo. Its interesting that she says the person she find scummiest is probably town, which sort of implies that she doesn't think he's scummy, and not the scummiest.

However, at this point, you are clearly either scum, or all the scum are already voting for you, or there are only two scum. So I'm not interested in pursuing mizzy at the moment.

[Guardian]

Yeah, from my POV, either eldarad is scum, or Yos2, hasdgfas, Sweatpants, is the scum group.

HM.

Is Yos2, hasdgfas, Sweatpants such an unreasonable scum group???

Uh oh. :X

Could... o.O? I don't think so but...

[Tiger Twins]

Yeah, from my POV, either eldarad is scum, or Yos2, hasdgfas, Sweatpants, is the scum group.

HM.

Is Yos2, hasdgfas, Sweatpants such an unreasonable scum group???

Uh oh. :X

Could... o.O? I don't think so but...

~Guardian

[Mizzy]

Mizzy, why aren't you voting for eldarad?

I already answered that a while ago, sadly the answer hasn't changed much. See post #1109. Add on top of that the OMGUS aspect since he spent so much time attacking me...I am having trouble pulling apart the scumminess from the OMGUS and since it's kind of important to be right here, I don't want to chance it until I am sure.

[Yosarian2]

It's probably up to you now, though, Mizzy...Guardian's leaving tommorow, so if you don't hammer today or tommorow, it's probably going to be a no lynch. I think the two pro-town people not voting for Eldred now are you and Skruffs, and I don't think Skruffs is going to join the wagon.

[Mizzy]

It's probably up to you now, though, Mizzy...Guardian's leaving tommorow, so if you don't hammer today or tommorow, it's probably going to be a no lynch. I think the two pro-town people not voting for Eldred now are you and Skruffs, and I don't think Skruffs is going to join the wagon.

See now that puts me in a really shitty position because I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't. No matter what I decide, I'm going to come out of it looking like a dick unless I hammer and he

does

turn up scum, and I'm not done with my reread of him to feel confident thinking he is scum despite the OMGUS just yet.

[Tiger Twins]

I, Guardian, am going on v/la for 2 weeks starting now.

I don't know what type of access I will have. I've asked that we not be replaced since between the two of us we should be able to finish the game, but Ether will do as she sees fit. I am pre-sending any applicable night choices now. This does not imply/deny that I have any/don't have any.

Skruffs, Y, Mizzy: personally, if you let this go to night with no lynch, I will find all of you scummy for it.

There's no reason to let that happen, because if the mafia don't get a NK again as they did the past two nights, we have a lynch to spare.

No lynching here takes pretty much any chance of that happening away.

Like I've said, it is unlikely I'll be able to post to postpone the deadline consistently anymore.

Let's get a lynch...

~Guardian

[Y]

I made a re-read for eldarad, and I did find some posts where he says that werewolves might not be scum before the claim. That validates his point, although I still think the play was wrong. The town has the right to decide who to lynch, not the single person with info.

There was a post I didn't like though, so I just have one question, eldarad: If you weren't sure that RS is town, why did you protect him?
I'd like you to consider this:

eldarad seems weird to me. He protected RS, who was in fact town, but it seems like his reason was more "I know he's town" than "I don't think he's scum".

Exactly right.

On Night 2 I received a 'moonshine' - basically a one-shot cop.
It allowed me to identify a werewolf. RS is not a werewolf. Although I don't know who - if anyone - gave the item to me, or even whether the scum are werewolves (if they are not, then the item is basically useless.)

Be careful with your answer, since it's probably the one keeping me from switching votes.

[Yosarian2]

/post

[Skruffs]

Yeah, from my POV, either eldarad is scum, or Yos2, hasdgfas, Sweatpants, is the scum group.

HM.

Is Yos2, hasdgfas, Sweatpants such an unreasonable scum group???

Uh oh. :X

Could... o.O? I don't think so but...

~Guardian

You forgot the whole , "What if scum need items to night kill" option.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

However, at this point, you (eldarad) are clearly either scum, or all the scum are already voting for you, or there are only two scum.

Comments on this, mizzy? Mizzy's hesitance to hammer when there's a possibility of a no-lynch is making me suspicious.

[Mizzy]

Sorry guys, rough waters with the baby, I have some catching up to do.

TSN:

To be clear on how I feel, I don't know much about when it's good to have a no-lynch and when it's not. I don't like no-lynches except in very specific circumstances, though, and I will hammer if I really have to in order to keep one from happening.

I am also waiting for the answer to Y's question because even though I did reread Eld from today, I still get tingles of pissiness at how he acted towards me and I don't want to lynch based on OMGUS. There is a good bit of evidence against him, though, and the answer to Y's question may cement things in my mind.

For those that don't know, I am a very cautious player. Meta me, if you like, but I am very, very, very cautious.

[Yosarian2]

/posting

Mizzy, if we don't have a lynch today, then it probably just means GUardian dies tonight and tommorow it'll be even harder to do anything.

[Mizzy]

*Sigh* True.

Does anyone have any discussion left? I'll hammer if that's a no.

[Skruffs]

Wait... if we lynch Eldarad, Guardian *won't* Die tonight?
What are you getting at, Yos?

[hasdgfas]

Wait... if we lynch Eldarad, Guardian *won't* Die tonight?
What are you getting at, Yos?

Skruffs, seriously? What are

you

trying to get at with that post? How could you think that was implied?

[Yosarian2]

Wait... if we lynch Eldarad, Guardian *won't* Die tonight?
What are you getting at, Yos?

Uh...no, that's not at all what I'm saying. I'm just saying that if we don't lynch, we'll probably be back in the exact same situation tommorow, except without Guardian.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Post. Waiting for the hammer.