Designer Mafia 2007 - Game Over, Final Scene Posted!

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #2200 (ISO) » Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:15 am

well, isnt Sir T, claiming to have target Noc, BEFORE he was killed...there for cult doesnt have anything to do with it....so it doesnt make since there.

of course, this being said, there hasnt been a night death in two nights...not sure if that means anything (mafia targetting revived doc?)..

I am getting scum vibes off Sir T...but dont think he is the lynch of the day (yet)...can someone with time tell me ho wmany votes stark has?

armlx · Post Post #2201 (ISO) » Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:17 am

Stark should have 3 if I don't miserably fail at counting again (Sim, TSS, armlx).

Also, good point on pre-cult.

armlx · Post Post #2202 (ISO) » Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:18 am

EBWODP: Or cult Nocmen could be lying about his role, though that would be a case to consider if SirT shows up dead as town.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #2203 (ISO) » Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:21 am

didnt someone else confirm that they made that role.....

what a minute, was that jedi who confirmed to make Noc's role? the same guy who Noc is sporting their shirt?

well, I would like to see what if anything Bel gets tonight from this shirt...I say if Bel doesnt get anything we lynch him tomorrow, to see what happens...

today...I am fine with more stark pressure.

armlx · Post Post #2204 (ISO) » Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:24 am

Lynch who? Bel, Sirt, Nocmen, Jedi?

Stark is good now.

Sir Tornado · Post Post #2205 (ISO) » Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:37 am

OH, THE HORROR!

Ok, just to be sure about Nocmen thing...

I copied Nocmen onto JDodge on N1 because there was some talk about Nocmen being a cop (someone mentioned this D1). After receiving no investigation result, I asked Nocmen on D2 (I think in my first post on D2) what his investigation result was. I didn't receive any reply from him at that time, and I assumed he wasn't a cop. Then, he comes out and claims cop on D4.

I don't think mafia has a roleblocker. Had Mafia had a RB, they would have blocked me and killed Twomz (or vice versa). The fact that they don't do this points out that a mafia RB does not exist.

So, does anyone want to claim a RB now and clarify whether they blocked Nocmen on N1?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #2206 (ISO) » Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:02 am

armlx, talking about lynch Bel tomorrow.

Sir T, why dont you think that mafia has a RB type role in a designer game? has something occured that I have missed? Also, if you dont believe that the mafia has a RB, do you think that TSS is lying then? If so, why havent you mentioned that?

armlx · Post Post #2207 (ISO) » Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:03 am

armlx, talking about lynch Bel tomorrow.

What about a Nocmen vig of Bel?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #2208 (ISO) » Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:05 am

Noc can vig? And I dont want to vig Bel (tonight) for he might get some action (like what Simenon is claiming) tonight...

armlx · Post Post #2209 (ISO) » Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:13 am

Ok, valid point. How about vig the next night then? Vig > lynch.

Twomz · Post Post #2210 (ISO) » Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:18 am

Sir T, does the horror thing persist to the end of the game?

Also, you are only sent a PM if the person you protected is scum... I haven't gotten any PMs either, which means everyone I've targeted is "nonscum" which may or may not be restricted to mafia.

BTW, they may very well have TRIED to RB me last night

wouldn't matter that much really.

armlx · Post Post #2211 (ISO) » Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:26 am

Also, you are only sent a PM if the person you protected is scum... I haven't gotten any PMs either, which means everyone I've targeted is "nonscum" which may or may not be restricted to mafia.

This seems appropriate given the role.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #2212 (ISO) » Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:30 am

armlx wrote:Ok, valid point. How about vig the next night then? Vig > lynch.

play that by ear tomorrow, me thinks.

armlx · Post Post #2213 (ISO) » Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:31 am

curiouskarmadog wrote:
armlx wrote:Ok, valid point. How about vig the next night then? Vig > lynch.
play that by ear tomorrow, me thinks.

Valid point.

the silent speaker · Post Post #2214 (ISO) » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:24 pm

Is there some reason Nocmen can't vig PBuG?

armlx · Post Post #2215 (ISO) » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:25 pm

the silent speaker wrote:Is there some reason Nocmen can't vig PBuG?

Him not wanting to, him rather using cop investigations, etc.

Nocmen · Post Post #2216 (ISO) » Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:48 pm

I beleive I have said most of this before....but might as well do it again.

I have reason to think that my actual power as a cop/vig is not capable of working. My role flavor as being someone afraid of stuff and trying to hide makes me think that all vig attempts will fail, and I am a naive cop. Right now, I have not tried my vig powers, but all of my cop results have come up as innocent.

I'm still not sure if I want to actually try the vig'ing, or just keep using cop claims. The other reason I have stuck with cop claims is that going with one or the other makes it much easier to figure out if my abilities actualyl work or not...its easier to get 2 innocent results and 2 vigs that happen to fail just by coincidence over 3-4+ innocent results. Hell, the only thing I think keeping me alive still is the fact that the scum learned from JDodge they pretty much sacrifice themselves to kill me.

Nocmen · Post Post #2217 (ISO) » Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:55 pm

Also...I would think that Sir T is somewhat innocent, at least to the point where he is definitely not part of Mafia. The fact that he copied Shanba's ability onto me Night 2 is reason enough to seem that he was not with JDodge, as it would be pointless to do something to me the night I was killed. And someone may say this is WIFOM, because they could purposely set it up so that it looked like Sir T would be cleared by this. But how would they know that the town would have any idea of anything being copied onto me? For example, if there was an investigation or RB on me...the town would have no idea that I was targeted like that. Which is why I think Sir T is completely innocent, unless he is a second SK, or there is a second scum group. Which actually...could be completely true...but I'm not sure with the lack of kills that exist here.

armlx · Post Post #2218 (ISO) » Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:08 pm

Ok, then shoot someone from the list over an investigation tomorrow if you fear being a megalomaniac.

Sir Tornado · Post Post #2219 (ISO) » Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:15 am

OH, THE HORROR!

Who did you (try to) investigate N1 Nocmen?

Sir Tornado · Post Post #2220 (ISO) » Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:19 am

OH, THE HORROR!

Nocmen, I copied Shanba onto you, so, I knew the town would know of your fake death if Shanba was telling the truth. (I was testing Shanba's claim)

Nocmen · Post Post #2221 (ISO) » Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:28 am

I attempted to investigate Kaleidoscope as I said before.

the silent speaker · Post Post #2222 (ISO) » Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:47 am

Well, if you don't want to test the vigging (and I think it's worth taking a shot since if successful it will be obvious to all) then I recommend investigating PBuG or Fonz. The more obviously scum your investigative targets, the better the odds that a string of innocent results comes from being naive. Innocents on scope and belg don't tell us all that much.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #2223 (ISO) » Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:24 pm

ok, well I am about ready to join the stark wagon....

SSF352 · Post Post #2224 (ISO) » Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:08 pm

curiouskarmadog wrote:ok, well I am about ready to join the stark wagon....

I am ready.....

Vote: Stark

Also, with the cult issue, I have to wonder how likely it is that if we lynch a cult recuiter, he/she can pass on the recuiting ability to another cult member, much like how a mafia that loses its godfather can still kill. That would be the main factor as to my level of concern with a cult.

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