Erg0 wrote:What is it that you don't follow in 463?
I was half asleep when I read it before, but basically your logic states that a vulnerable to investigation Glork scum would not have played the way he did on day1. I admit that you know how Glork plays better than I do since this is my first experience with Glork in the same game as me, but I not sure I like the idea of he would play better than this as a vulnerable to investigation scum. Evrybody makes mistakes.
In post #474, #475 Glork refutes some of my logic. I guess I better understand what he meant with the varying playstyle and he wants something there to save his ass just in case as town. I personally would only want something to save my ass if I were scum, but nevertheless his logic does make better sence now. A little more on this next paragraph.
In posts #474, #476 Glork better explains why he believe other players were dancers. I think I may now understand why I once got that vibe that Glork thought Ether would have reasons to be jealous. I think my original view/problem involving this point and the one in the last paragraph was that I believed they indeed were mutally exclusive. I thought Glork was trying to say something along the lines of I'm a dancer and I'm a power role. Everyone else must be dancer's and they would be power roles. I think I may have been drawing a bit of a bad assumption/line of thought there. I was thinking like incognito was in post #499. Considering the game Glork links in #504 later on I see how all players were dancers and how certainly all of them weren't power roles.
Glork wrote:A question to those who have issues with my claim... Given that I basically stated that I was a dancing girl in my confirmation post, which do you find more likely:
A) I am a scum dancing girl; or
B) I am not a dancing girl but chose to cement the flavor of my role/claim before the game even began?.
This is a very good question. I was indeed previously considering him being a scum dancing girl, but there are some problems with considering that. The scum are the Moretti's right? And since they are a mob group associated with the club, it is unlikly that all of them would be dancers. And if they aren't all dancers and since scum in every game can always talk during pregame, I'm fairly certain Glork scum dancing girl would have realized his mistake of all players not being dancers alot sooner.
Glork wrote:By the way,....
PokerFace wrote:And despite his acclaim, I wouldn't call Glork the highest profile player in this game.
...you may be entitled to your opinion, but fact is, Erg0 (referring to me as a "night action magnet at the best of times") knows I'm one of the highest-profile players.
Even more importantly, Tarh himself said this just now:
Tarh wrote:2) I had a guilty on one of, if not THE most prominent player in the game.
This is HUGE, PokerFace, because it exactly supports the point I was trying to make. Regardless of whether YOU think I'm high-prof, the
player
lyingdirtyscumbag who claimed a guilty on me thinks I'm top of the line.
Thus, as I said before: If he's going down and wants to take someone out first, he'll take high-profile. He just stated that he thinks I'm very high-profile.
I rest my case.
Well I'll be damned. I am droping my earlier line of reasoning since it doesn't entirly matter who I would consider the most promient player. It would indeed matter who Tarhalindur considered was the prominent player.
Also just for clarification sake, I am not sure crumbing is the right word to describe what you did early day 1. Crumbing is done deliberately; while if you really are a dancing girl, you revealed parts of your role completely on accident in your earliest of comments because of your mistake of everyone else being dancers. So yes you did imply a dancer role early in the game, but I'm not so sure it was all on purpose. The later crumbs you point out in #497 may have been done on purpose but the earliest ones weren't entirely. Either way though, purposely or accidently, in a joke or not, the "crumbs" still heavily aid the possibility you are a dancing girl.
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Tarhalindur wrote:First: For those of you attacking me for not defending myself before claiming, consider these two problems with your attack:
1) I did not look at the thread until the time that I claimed. By that point, I was at L-2 with more than ten players alive. Under such conditions I consider a claim OBLIGATORY, to the extent that I would be attacking you for failing to force the claim if you had backed off the wagon.
2) I had a guilty on one of, if not THE most prominent player in the game. Under such conditions, I would have been strongly inclined to claim even if I was not already in claim range.
Here, in post 477 Tarhalindur first two points explain why he didn't defend himself earlier because he felt his claim was absolutly necessary at that time, HOWEVER that does not explain why he won't address the comments of that case on him, now.
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As it stands there have been numerous comments about flavor with both Glork and Tarhalindur's claims being off.
Glork wrote:Elmo wrote:Glork: What does your scumgroup look like now? iirc, you protect people by taking them into the VIP section, but the flavour indicates kills happen after everyone's gone home - can you comment on that? Can you articulate why you thought Patrick was scum?
...Firstly, I'm not sold on the idea that kills happen after everyone goes home. Secondly -- though my flavor doesn't state this explicitly, it is reasonable to assume that I give my target some "special attention" (if ya know what I mean) all night long, which would perfectly explain how they can neither harm nor be harmed...
scotmany12 wrote:How he gets the results does not fit at all. He says he gets his results from the FBI database. If the computer knew who was scum or not, then why would he go into an investigation uninformed? I didn't have a problem with the FBI part. How he gets the results just doesn't fit at all. And the FBI thing should be a null tell. It is in the opening post, scum can use it for a fake claim. I don't think it supports his claim at all.
Where do the killings happen/how does Glork's "service" stop that and why would Tarhalindur go into the investigate the club if he's already got a database with the info on it. Something I don't think anyone has pointed out would be these two flavor comments by OGML.
OhGodMyLife wrote:"Be careful what you say!" warns a third person. "They're probably still here. They're probably among us right now." The implications of that statement are quickly realized. The doors to the club are quickly shut and barred.
"No police then. We do this the old fashioned way."
OhGodMyLife wrote:With that, the bouncer ushers the emotionally and physically drained crowd out the door of the club, agreeing that all will return tomorrow.
So we were barred inside and then after the lynching with the bouncer's intrusion we were all sent go home. Bee nice if all did return to club too. But regardless shouldn't we still be barred inside based on the original flavor? And if we were allowed to go home Tarhalindur wouldn't need to call his superiors to check the database he could just go to the database and check himself. So I guess there are a few things off with both flavor's in general if you look at what OGML wrote.
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As things stand most of the stuff I said on Glork has indeed been proven wrong. He could very well be a dancing girl and if he was a scum dancing girl {assuming the other scum aren't dancing girls (The dead npc was a dancing girl)} he would have likely realized his error in thought during pregame instead of during the game. Tarhalindur has not made great aknowledgement of the case Glork put on him earlier and it would appear that he is attacking the most prominent player in his mind. I am no longer heavily leaning on voting Glork, I'm waiting for Tarhalindur's next comments to decide what to do.
I do have one question for Elmo or whoever may know the answer while I wait on tarhalindur. What is meant by the word inertia?
Elmo wrote:I am assuming that Glork knows how to play his metagame, and that the "obstinate" d1 style gets used equally as town/scum. If that's wrong, someone correct me; I have no desire to plough through however many completed games. I'm not influenced by that in either direction. I sort of expected Glork to grill everyone apart from Tar and get a read from him based on that. Doesn't seem to have happened, so much.
Inertia
means I still dislike Tar. Eh.
And don't go scientifical on me. I know that inertia is the force that keeps you going when you try to stop or slowdown. I am not quite getting why you are using that word to describe why you still disliked Tarhalindur.
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