Large Normal 221 - Endgame

[Eyes without a face]

babysitter is the kind of protective that can kill instead of protecting, and motion detector seems like something to put in a game with a considerable number of PRs

That's exactly what unknown 15 had in that game I linked, still with a 4 man scum team.

[Eyes without a face]

babysitter is like the kind of protective you would put in a game where you want people to die fast

Babysitter only kills one person and does with them.

Nut seriously, I am now second guessing my read on Niko. Would scum Niko really intentionally lie about the mod meta which is something that can be (and has been) easily proven wrong? I am now more inclined to think Niko is a troll account for whomever they really are.

[Eyes without a face]

ok, so you are a claimed sk yay?

Thank you.

[Vorkuta]

Because you're bringing up mod meta for whatever reason
NK's Mini 2058 (13 players, 3.5 scum)

Spoiler:

-Mafia Informed
-Mafia Encryptor
-Mafia Encryptor
-Macho Neighbor Traitor

vs

-Informed Macho IC
-Informed N3+ Vig

(triggered)

-*inhales* Town Disloyal Informed Macho Neighbor Ninja Night 1-2 Babysitter
-Neighbor x3
-Neighbor N1 Cop
-VT x2

[Not Known 15]

Vote Count 1.9

Kop

Niko(5)Kirari Momobami,Eyes without a face,ofrhz,Nero Cain,Kublai Khan,

Vorkuta(4)Montosh,pisskop,Niko,RedFlavor,

Creature(3)Vorkuta,Jesus Louisus,Alchemist21,

HeWhoSwims(2)LuckyOtter,rosterfoster,

Jesus Louisus(1)Lil Uzi Vert,

Not Voting(1)DeasVail,

Nero Cain(1)HeWhoSwims,

RedFlavor(1)Creature,

Saudade

Lil Uzi Vert(0)

EvilDeanius

Eyes without a face(0)

rosterfoster(0)

pisskop(0)

Montosh(0)

LuckyOtter(0)

ofrhz(0)

Alchemist21(0)

BodhiSmith13

DeasVail(0)

Kublai Khan(0)

Kirari Momobami(0)

No Lynch(0)

With 18 alive it is 10 to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2019-06-26 13:21:00)

[Not Known 15]

HeWhoSwims has been prodded.

[Creature]

Gun to my head it's Ejji/Fumuki because those are the two Niko mentioned from Panic Room

Dunno, he feels like TemporalLich

[Niko]

babysitter is like the kind of protective you would put in a game where you want people to die fast

Babysitter only kills one person and does with them.

Nut seriously, I am now second guessing my read on Niko. Would scum Niko really intentionally lie about the mod meta which is something that can be (and has been) easily proven wrong? I am now more inclined to think Niko is a troll account for whomever they really are.

This is eyes trying not to look too bad after my flip

also I've literally no idea what eyes is talking about here because I said that IRCHER's game had 4 man in 25p, I never said anything about a NK15's game, I only said I

think

nk15 is like that

[Niko]

...

uhhhh

maybe I played around *too* much this game huh

I should've expected less from this town I guess, the unique one in my wagon that I understand is ofrhz since she knows who I'm and it's using my meta on other accounts (what I don't recommend doing here, really).

Anyway, there's only 3 days and 20 hours and I've 5 votes already so I suppose I should full claim huh?

[Niko]

I mean, we all know what would happen from here on if I don't claim, I wait some lurkers come check in and vote me as well like (DeasVail, Montosh, Hewhosims, lil uzi vet, luckyotter), I get to l-1 with only 24h or so left, claim, and we quicklynch someone or end up no lynching

I could see it already soooo...

[Nero Cain]

like the reason I was town reading Niko b/c there are tons of silly townies that think claiming scum and doing slayers gambit is some nxt lvl town play and that's what I had felt but Jesus fuck

That’s what I’m thinking as well. I actually don’t see scum making the posts Niko’s been making.

What do you think of my other reasons? The analysis of Kop, the "no there's not 3 mafia"

[Alchemist21]

I can see the Kop argument but can also see Kop as just useless Town.

The setup spec is just weird regardless of alignment.

[Niko]

I'm an Even Night Vigilante, not bulletproof.

All that lolz claiming and all was to claim bp later and make either scum think I'm bp and shot elsewhere or to make them waste their strongman on me (and it seems like it was working?). I didn't want to play my normal town meta because not only I'm tired of it, but I also I could be shot N1 since I'm always obvtown, and I wanted to stick around and play vigilante for once, it's my first time rolling it and there's the novelty and all. I also wanted to play a bit silly.

I'm not SK because I can only shoot in Even Nights, and my play here doesn't even make sense as a SK. a SK here would as a matter of fact be bulletproof, and therefore would do everything but claim bulletproof, because they don't want to risk mafia using a strongman on them (and if there's a SK, mafia probably needs a strongman, a no-bp SK is just bad design).

That's why I believe in a 3p scum team as well, I don't think that it's reasonable to have a babysitter together with a vigilante against a 4 man team, it can...end up wildly. I'm kind of expecting there to exist a Odd Night Vigilante as well by the way.

I also like thinking about a possible smaller team, since I use associatives, if I suppose it's 4 man when it's only 3 man, it's going to mess up my reads. There's no problem if I guess it's 3 man when it's 4 man, but there's problem to my reads if I suppose it's 4 man when it's 3 man.

Game meta nowadays is town sided so with everything considered I thought it was more likely a 3 man team. Oh, and I'm not horrible enough as scum to need some dumb "telling" of saying it's 3 man when it's 4 man, that's kind of really silly.

I'm still waiting for Kiri to confirm if she is or not a babysitter by the way.

With the deadline close and all, I'll compromise on Vorkuta but what I truly wanted is Eyes.

[Kublai Khan]

Still okay with lynching Niko.

[Nero Cain]

oh hey look, a claim that guarantee's that you live till n3 if ppl are all like "at least let him get a shot off"

[Niko]

Why N3?

I shot in N2. Day 3 I'm auto lynched if I don't shoot anyone.

To be honest Nero might be scum but I think he is actually this silly as town as well so there's that.

[Nero Cain]

sorry, I meant d3

[Nero Cain]

I'm not SK because I can only shoot in Even Nights

SK's don't have to be every night

a SK here would as a matter of fact be bulletproof

sk's don't

HAVE

to be bp

to make them waste their strongman on me

I dunno why you'd even think there was a strongman in this setup unless you are a bp :/

[Niko]

If you think I'm scum go lynch my partner or something

I want the pleasure of shooting eyes or some scummy slot

I also don't believe on you to catch scum tbh, I can be wrong, but I'm confident that creature is town right now and you were almost lynching him.

Eyes, Vork and Otter are essentially scum claiming with their posts but you're still voting me as well, so there's that too.

[Nero Cain]

the thing is, doing gambits are a risk. And they are going to confuse town more than scum. I think it's stupid for someone to gambit and then get bent out of shape when they get scum read.

[Niko]

In post 862, Niko wrote:
I'm not SK because I can only shoot in Even Nights

SK's don't have to be every night

In post 862, Niko wrote:
a SK here would as a matter of fact be bulletproof

sk's don't HAVE to be bp

This is kind of ridiculous tbh

What kind of SK doesn't shoot every night in a large, and what kind of SK isn't bp in a 18p.

[Niko]

the thing is, doing gambits are a risk. And they are going to confuse town more than scum. I think it's stupid for someone to gambit and then get bent out of shape when they get scum read.

I agree with you

But the thing is, you guys arguments are just too silly, really. No offense but it's true

Ofrhz has a decent scum read on me and I'm not complaining about her, am I?

You guys though...

I would post some of my scum games here but I would rather be lynched here than to out myself right now

I'll be very honest, If I was scum this wouldn't be a hard game.

[Nero Cain]

Ofrhz has a decent scum read on me and I'm not complaining about her, am I?

that's why we'll lynch that next.

[Niko]

Like...

No one out of newbie queue uses the "dumb telling" of "it's X-1 scum team" when it's X.

Seriously.

[Niko]

Ofrhz has a decent scum read on me and I'm not complaining about her, am I?

that's why we'll lynch that next.

A true associative's master.