Mini 610: Ace Attorney Mafia - Game Over!!

[populartajo]

I'm really not happy with people claiming at this point, especially people who aren't the defendant. I'm not saying I support the defendant claiming, but if anyone would claim unprovoked, it should be babygirl86.

Thats my point. Theo could or couldnt be scum. Cream in the other hand seems to be so sure after you've voted for him. Also I cant compare both of you for two principal reasons : a)first vote on someone is more town than scum b)you've been attacking everything that moves since the beginning of the game. See the difference with Cream?

You seem to be jumping to a big conclusion about Cream there. And I highly disagree with reason A.

Ok you're free to disagree but why is Cream so sure about theopor? Any ideas? Why did he jump against him and not against other minor cases?
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Mirth I find extremely strange that you dont have to say anything about Cream.
Also Natirasha's case is so full of WIFOM that it hurts.
Is Theo that dumb?

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Non-Jurors:

**Babygirl86: (0/7)
Joubert: (0/7)
Matt_S: (0/7)
Natirasha: (0/7)
populartajo: (0/7)

Jurors

ChiefSkye4: (0/6, 0/1)
Cream147: (0/6, 0/1)
Gorrad: (0/6, 0/1)
malthusis: (0/6, 0/1)
Mirth: (0/6, 1/1) Joubert
SlySly: (0/6, 0/1)
theopor_COD: (2/6, 1/1) {Mirth, Cream147}, populartajo

Not Voting: (8/12) babygirl86, ChiefSkye4, Gorrad, Matt_S, malthusis, Natirasha, SlySly, theopor_COD

Deadline for D1: Saturday June 29, 6:15PM GMT+10
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[Gorrad]

Wow. We lucked out on Nat's role. The speed at which he full-claimed is disconcerting, but I'm thankful for what it was.

Nat, I've got a little request. Please ask Vollkan if you're allowed to quote their PMs. The usual rule is no quoting YOUR PM, and I'd like to see if this is a loophole.

[babygirl86]

my bad- guess I forgot that my vote doesn't really count.... but on the other hand I also don't like how populartajo jumped on cream.... that doesn't really sit too well with me either. They both have explained themselves, but I'm more inclined to vote for theo

vote: theoper_COD

[ChiefSkye4]

They both have explained themselves, but I'm more inclined to vote for theo

vote: theoper_COD

What for? He unvoted. I'm not for or against your vote or anything, but why?

[vollkan]

Malthusis and SlySly are being prodded.

[Matt_S]

Ok you're free to disagree but why is Cream so sure about theopor? Any ideas? Why did he jump against him and not against other minor cases?

I didn't see any certainty about theopor. All I saw was certainty that unexplained votes for the defendant were bad.

[Cream147]

Ok, in response to popular, reread my post. I never did once say I was sure in any way about theopor. I said he was an experienced player who should know better than to just lynch the defendant and go into night so early.

[theopor_COD]

Ok, in response to popular, reread my post. I never did once say I was sure in any way about theopor. I said he was an experienced player who should know better than to just lynch the defendant and go into night so early.

One Vote . . . babyface is not going to be lynched is she on the basis of my vote, three weeks from deadline. Is she? Does anyone seriously think we'd go into night early because of that?

What my vote has told me is that certain people are very quick to defend her, helpful long term if she is scum, which she may very well be.

[Mirth]

I soft-claimed in response to a misunderstanding to Mirth. Then(As was pointed out) I am now a mafia target. As such, I full-claimed to get the mafia off my back. Without getting too far into WIFOM, my role cannot find them and actually might GIVE the mafia extra information under certain circumstances, so I don't think they'll attack me.

I don't entirely buy this. You had other options on how to respond to me that did not involve claiming

so I don't think they'll attack me.

I think Nat's right. The claim wasn't that big of a 'OMG, NOW THEY GONNA KILL JOO AND WE NEED JOO' deal, because if Nat's telling the truth, then the role isn't that valuable to town, and assuming that there are more valuable roles, they won't kill him.

He soft-claimed, meaning that he might be doc or cop, or anything, but then he full-claimed, turning out to be a rather useless role (possibly).

This is all, of course, only relevant if Nat's not a-lyin'.

Or he could be mafia claiming a useless role to excuse the screw up he made in responding to me so that it doesnt look suspicious when he doesn't get nightkilled. Just a thought. Then again if his role is useful (that is if we have no reveal on death), mafia might just off him anyway, because they dont really need to know anything other than that they must kill everyone who isnt them.

Ok you're free to disagree but why is Cream so sure about theopor? Any ideas? Why did he jump against him and not against other minor cases?
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Mirth I find extremely strange that you dont have to say anything about Cream.
Also Natirasha's case is so full of WIFOM that it hurts.
Is Theo that dumb?

Didn't say anything about Cream because there's nothing to say. It was obviously a pressure vote as there is no case on Theo right now.

my bad- guess I forgot that my vote doesn't really count.... but on the other hand I also don't like how populartajo jumped on cream.... that doesn't really sit too well with me either. They both have explained themselves, but I'm more inclined to vote for theo

vote: theoper_COD

What about any of the other stuff I asked you about, eh? Oh, btw,

unvote:Theo

since he's talking now

vote:babygirl86

One Vote . . . babyface is not going to be lynched is she on the basis of my vote, three weeks from deadline. Is she? Does anyone seriously think we'd go into night early because of that?

Nah, but I would like to hear more commentary out of you.

[Natirasha]

I don't entirely buy this. You had other options on how to respond to me that did not involve claiming.

I misread your statement. Although, I probably would have probably claimed by the end of the day anyways, so...

Or he could be mafia claiming a useless role to excuse the screw up he made in responding to me so that it doesnt look suspicious when he doesn't get nightkilled. Just a thought. Then again if his role is useful (that is if we have no reveal on death), mafia might just off him anyway, because they dont really need to know anything other than that they must kill everyone who isnt them.

I suspect our reveals will be <character>, _____-aligned <adjective>.

[Mirth]

I don't entirely buy this. You had other options on how to respond to me that did not involve claiming.

I misread your statement. Although, I probably would have probably claimed by the end of the day anyways, so...

Why? Unless you were Supertownie there would not really be a point.

[Mirth]

EBWOP: Supertownie (obvious mafia target) or up for lynch.

[Natirasha]

Mostly, I like claiming.

[Mirth]

Why?

[Natirasha]

Why not?

[Mirth]

Usually helps scum more than town if done too early. Especially since scum can usually take claims at face value and town can't.

[ChiefSkye4]

so I don't think they'll attack me.

I think Nat's right. The claim wasn't that big of a 'OMG, NOW THEY GONNA KILL JOO AND WE NEED JOO' deal, because if Nat's telling the truth, then the role isn't that valuable to town, and assuming that there are more valuable roles, they won't kill him.

He soft-claimed, meaning that he might be doc or cop, or anything, but then he full-claimed, turning out to be a rather useless role (possibly).

This is all, of course, only relevant if Nat's not a-lyin'.

Or he could be mafia claiming a useless role to excuse the screw up he made in responding to me so that it doesnt look suspicious when he doesn't get nightkilled. Just a thought. Then again if his role is useful (that is if we have no reveal on death), mafia might just off him anyway, because they dont really need to know anything other than that they must kill everyone who isnt them.

This could be a possibility, but I read some of Nat's previous games, and I wouldn't put past him to claim just because.

[Gorrad]

Wow. We lucked out on Nat's role. The speed at which he full-claimed is disconcerting, but I'm thankful for what it was.

Nat, I've got a little request. Please ask Vollkan if you're allowed to quote their PMs. The usual rule is no quoting YOUR PM, and I'd like to see if this is a loophole.

[Matt_S]

Wow. We lucked out on Nat's role. The speed at which he full-claimed is disconcerting, but I'm thankful for what it was.

Nat, I've got a little request. Please ask Vollkan if you're allowed to quote their PMs. The usual rule is no quoting YOUR PM, and I'd like to see if this is a loophole.

Actually, the rule says "Never quote anything I PM you". So no posting their PMs unless there's a weird exception in the role

[Gorrad]

That question was not for you, Matt.

[SlySly]

1. What do you think of this setup?
2. Is this game tough for town?
3. Is Mirth town or scum? Yes, no, I dont know?

1. I think it is awesome.
2. All games are tough for town.
3. Mirth is the devil. She is acting her normal self. From my experience, that leans towards her being scummy.

[malthusis]

Wow, this game is going at extremely fast pace. My thoughts so far are:

1.People are claiming way too early.
2. I really don't think mafia has nightkills, this seems pretty unbalanced in a game that it is pretty hard to take out scum. Therefore, I'm not really worried about Nat dieing as of now (unless we have a trigger happy vig).
3. Mirth, why are you voting babygirl? The only reason you'd do that (I think at least) is that you want to take her out early (superscum tell) or pressure ( which she pretty much is right now).

[Mirth]

3. Mirth is the devil. She is acting her normal self. From my experience, that leans towards her being scummy.

Glad you could finally join us. I missed you terribly

Do you have any other comments on anything else that's happened in the last 5 pages? I'd really like to hear them.

Have I mentioned I missed you terribly?

And even if I am the devil, at least you know not to trust me this time. Especially when I'm so obviously and blatantly lying ^___^

[Mirth]

Simulpost!

Malth, why do you think I'm voting BG? And what makes you think scum don't have nightkills? Insider information?

[malthusis]

Wow, this game is heaven! I get a reply within 1 mintue

1.Just re-read that and saw that she hadn't been answering your questions.

2.

I really don't think mafia has nightkills, this seems pretty unbalanced in a game that it is pretty hard to take out scum.

I don't think this is a Bastard Mod setup anways.