Mafia 81: SSW II - Game over!

[Johoohno]

Vote count

(12 players alive = 7 to lynch before deadline)
(3) Rogue Shenanigans – Jenter Brolincani, muffinhead, OhGodMyLife
(2) Phoebus –Grimmy, farside22
(1) farside22 – SpyreX
(1) killa seven – Rogue Shenanigans

Not voting:

Flameaxe, killa seven, Mr. Flay, Nitro Styles, Phoebus

Deadline:

Thursday 12 June 1:00 AM (GMT -5 according to forum clock)

[Mr. Flay]

Mafia Tracker isn't very unusual; Mafia Recruiter

is

(and this is a Large Normal, technically, not a Mini, but I get your point).

Less than 36 hours to deadline, if I can count right.

[OhGodMyLife]

Flay wanting the same person vigged makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.

Only game I could remember reading with a maf tracker off the top of my head was Glork's Weather Mafia, which was a theme. But I swear I've seen it elsewhere. Flay if your memory reaches back further than mine I'd love some help finding a reference. I'll actually do some digging for it later today.

[Rogue Shenanigans]

Yeah, Sorry about that. When I think large normal I think 20+ not 13. A mistake there.

If OGML agrees to track me then I will track Pheob. Though, with three claimed power roles there (albeit a one shot is one of them) I doubt the scum will leave us alone.

[Jenter Brolincani]

unvote

Right then...

- Agree that OGML does Rogue does phoebus. Phoebus should randomly do his kill among the available suspects, so assuming there is a mafia kill Phoebus can tell us who he killed after the trackers reveal.

Has anyone thought that some people might have been given safeclaims of some sort?

[Rogue Shenanigans]

Safeclaims is a theme thing is it not?

Can't see why it would have a place here.

[Phoebus]

in case lurkers are kill options...i might go random.
the tracker chain is appealing.
i have no issues with being tracked.

[OhGodMyLife]

If we don't lynch rogue I'm willing to partake in the tracker chain. I'd rather just lynch him though. And I feel like I'm the likely nightkill tonight anyway.

[Rogue Shenanigans]

We can't rule out any warewolf vets out there to keep you safe. I am far too much of a tempting lynch push to kill, and pheob is one shot. I would say the tracking system could work...

[Mr. Flay]

Mini 516 had one too, apparently. And in several games, Trackers can be recruited by the Cult.

But that's not really the point (I don't go in big for frequency analysis, because every mod has their own ideas); a Tracker

makes sense

as either town or scum, unlike say a Mason or a Survivor.

[Mr. Flay]

Safeclaims is a theme thing is it not?

Can't see why it would have a place here.

Safeclaims are a balance thing. In practice however, Mafia Tracker would be the equivalent of a safeclaim (your role, is

usually

pro-town and provable).

I'm not entirely comfortable lynching one Tracker, because even if Rogue is scum (assuming the game is not over then), OGML would be the likely Scum target. Of course, if we have a Bodyguard/Vet/Doctor, that would provide a very obvious target for them...hmmm.

[Rogue Shenanigans]

A protective role has a very obvious target anyway. OGML is almost certain town at this point.

I would rather lynch a suspect inactive. I feel that two protown trackers without a cop is a better bet than a recruiter and a mafia tracker.

[Mr. Flay]

Well, I'd rather ditch an inactive too, but I'm not sure we can get there in the time left. Neither farside nor k7 really count...

Vote: Nitro Styles

as motivation/putting my vote where my mouth is.

[Rogue Shenanigans]

I will bandwagon that... Unless the others wish to drop off of my wagon, the rest need a second wagon within the 36 hours remaining. There is not much else I can do to defend myself.

Unvote, Vote: Nitro Styles

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[OhGodMyLife]

OK, lynch the lurker, Phoebus chooses his own target.

Unvote, Vote: Nitro

[Mr. Flay]

Mod: If you haven't prodded Nitro Styles, can you do so?

Mod note:

Already taken care of

[farside22]

I'm not sure why I'm getting grief from the mod. I believe I'm more active then some players.
Anyways why OMGL do you want to lynch a claimed tracker instead of doing the loop. At least this way a power role doesn't die unnecessarily.
Also some people are lurking more then others. I still don't like K7. Less sure of muffinhead (mainly do to zz comment about Korts before he died, but that could be a distancing attempt by scum) Where the heck has Jenter been most of this game.

unvote:
vote: Nitro

Quick lynching before scum realize what is going on would be a good thing right now.

[OhGodMyLife]

Its because I think that rogue can be a tracker and still be scum. All my tracking him is going to prove is that he's got the abilities of a tracker, not his alignment.

[Grimmy]

Unvote: Phoebus

I saw the claim, and its good enough to me. It would be proven anyway with or without a lynch today.

vote: nitro styles

I also have a really good idea as to why we would have two trackers in our pack. I will give my reasons after todays lynch (if I make it to morning.) Tomorrow, I will make my own role claim, which just may prove Rogue innocent.

Phoebus can make his own choice. Its better that way anyway.

Grimmy
it will all make sense eventually.

[Rogue Shenanigans]

There was no need to mention that grimmy... now it is clear that you have a power role and it could possibly clear the best lynch target for scum.

You coulda just kept quiet.

[Mr. Flay]

Unvote

to avoid a speedlynch - I'll definitely revote if Nitro doesn't show up with some good content soon, but I want to make sure all protown roles have a chance to make/change their choices.

[SpyreX]

I'm not 100% sold on Nitro being clean, but even if he is.. I'd like to see farside or a true luker take the bullet. I am also in favor of the tracker chain.

If Rogue is a scum tracker, could he track Phoebius regardless? Would this in any way clear him?

I know Phoebius has been lookin at me as a vig target, and I'd hate to see it happen, but I am not sure how to refute Phoebius's "feelings".

So,

Unvote

Vote Nitro

I still want to give nitro the chance to explain his lurking, but with Flay holding on the speedlynch I will put my money where my mouth is.

[SpyreX]

God, I meant to say 100% sold on ROGUE being clean, not Nitro.

[Rogue Shenanigans]

I don't see how it clears me totally.

It does however show that I am willing to cooperate at least.

[killa seven]

im against the nitro wagon