Mini 572 - Packrats (game over)

[Ether]

2 eldarad (Tiger Twins, Yosarian2)

6 Unvote (Andycyca, eldarad, hasdgfas, Mizzy, Skruffs, Y)

8 alive; 5 to lynch.

7/5 - Guardian, Y, Skruffs, Andycyca, hasdgfas,

eldarad, Yosarian2

3 hours and 36 minutes until the next block.

[Tiger Twins]

Deadline Post.

~Guardian

[eldarad]

Given the absence of kills for the past 2 Nights and the number of items knocking about, I don't think it is appropriate to write-off option B so quickly.

Just a quick warning...I may disappear again for a few days. I've managed to mess up the domain settings on my work laptop the day before I'm due to go on an away job to Hastings, so I may struggle to do stuff like play mafia (or do work...)

[Mizzy]

I already said that continued item speculation is a huge scum-hunting distraction...can we please skip the WIFOM item crap and get down to the scum-hunting, because seriously, we are running out of time.

[Y]

Option B is invalid. If there's 3 scum, then a mislynch here=scum win, so they don't care about day 5, 6, and 7.

That's true only if there's a NK, and we haven't got that for a while. It might not be the most probable option, but it is valid.

[Y]

Missed eldarad saying the same...

I already said that continued item speculation is a huge scum-hunting distraction...can we please skip the WIFOM item crap and get down to the scum-hunting, because seriously, we are running out of time.

I agree that this should not be the only thing we talk about, but I think ignoring it completely would be a mistake too.
So here's some scum-hunting: Mizzy, do you have any particular reason to shut down the items discussion?

[Yosarian2]

/post

[Mizzy]

I agree that this should not be the only thing we talk about, but I think ignoring it completely would be a mistake too.
So here's some scum-hunting: Mizzy, do you have any particular reason to shut down the items discussion?

Other than that I think the scum are using the items discussion to distract town into a deadline no-lynch? Actually, I think that's a pretty damned good reason to limit item discussion.

I don't want it to END, necessarily, but I do want it to

not

take up like 8 pages while we all go "Just a deadline post!" in between bickering about items.

[Skruffs]

Mizzy... you don't appear to be voting yourself... and you seem to be detracting away from something that can actually effect the game, without offering a counter discussion thing.. and not even voting..

Just a big red flag there

[Mizzy]

Mizzy... you don't appear to be voting yourself... and you seem to be detracting away from something that can actually effect the game, without offering a counter discussion thing.. and not even voting..

Just a big red flag there

Actually, I'm trying to start up a game I'm modding, and want to re-read Eldarad from today before I do actually vote him. The modding thing is taking up most of my time at the moment, but once that game gets going, I'll be able to re-read him like I want to.

I don't want to vote ANYONE at this point without being really, really sure of the vote. I would hope everyone else would feel the same.

[Tiger Twins]

Eldarad, you have I think two votes now, and you are still just defending yourself. If you provided a good alternative and voted and made a case I'd consider switching.

Eldarad isn't providing any cases or good alternatives to himself. Nor is anyone else, really.

Sitting around and debating item crap and then possibly missing a lynch is a bad idea.

I expect people to vote eldarad OR present a strong reason why we should lynch someone besides eldarad in their next posts.

Just sitting around debating peripheral setup speculation stuff is NOT beneficial at this point in the game, when we could easily miss a lynch as happened in an earlier day.

~Guardian

[hasdgfas]

Eldarad, you have I think two votes now, and you are still just defending yourself. If you provided a good alternative and voted and made a case I'd consider switching.

Eldarad isn't providing any cases or good alternatives to himself. Nor is anyone else, really.

Sitting around and debating item crap and then possibly missing a lynch is a bad idea.

I expect people to vote eldarad OR present a strong reason why we should lynch someone besides eldarad in their next posts.

Just sitting around debating peripheral setup speculation stuff is NOT beneficial at this point in the game, when we could easily miss a lynch as happened in an earlier day.

~Guardian

I agree with this post.

vote: eldarad

Eld: tell us why we shouldn't lynch you, or you'll almost certainly get lynched.

[Yosarian2]

SInce it's after 11, /post

Also, need more votes on eldarad, ect

[Tiger Twins]

2/5

~Guardian

[Y]

I'm not voting yet because we're probably in LYLO (Assuming 3 scum, of course), and I don't want to do anything until I'm sure it's the right thing to do.

While a no-lynch is bad, a mislynch could be far worst.

[Yosarian2]

I'm not voting yet because we're probably in LYLO (Assuming 3 scum, of course), and I don't want to do anything until I'm sure it's the right thing to do.

While a no-lynch is bad, a mislynch could be far worst.

Well, do you have an opinion on Eldarad, Y?

[Andycyca]

Sorry guys, unexpected work.

[Skruffs]

Mizzy... you don't appear to be voting yourself... and you seem to be detracting away from something that can actually effect the game, without offering a counter discussion thing.. and not even voting..

Just a big red flag there

Actually, I'm trying to start up a game I'm modding, and want to re-read Eldarad from today before I do actually vote him. The modding thing is taking up most of my time at the moment, but once that game gets going, I'll be able to re-read him like I want to.

I don't want to vote ANYONE at this point without being really, really sure of the vote. I would hope everyone else would feel the same.

So, in hte meanwhile, discussing the items would be a good thing, right?

I had a dream that I got an items... it was pens with the ink all used up, or somehting, and the mod had accidentally left hte name of hte person who had first gotten the items... named Count_Vakir or something. Anyways there's no user by that name on hte site so it wasn't premonition or anything. Shucks.

[Skruffs]

What I don't get in regards to the eldarad wagon is why he would not talk about the investigation while RS was alive, and then would bring it up for apparently no reason after he had died. Wouldn't it have been better to just not bring it up? Or to claim a result on a living person that he would already know is town?

As scum, how does it benefit him?

I might be playing D.A. here, just strikes me as funny. And by funny, I mean, "Worth thinking about".

[Yosarian2]

What I don't get in regards to the eldarad wagon is why he would not talk about the investigation while RS was alive, and then would bring it up for apparently no reason after he had died. Wouldn't it have been better to just not bring it up? Or to claim a result on a living person that he would already know is town?

As scum, how does it benefit him?

I might be playing D.A. here, just strikes me as funny. And by funny, I mean, "Worth thinking about".

Well, part of the reason I was attacking him was that yesterday he looked like a scum who already knew Eldred was town and who was therefore avoiding the wagon without actually trying very hard to stop it or to encoruage anyone else to be lynched. I think the claim was a defense against that, an excuse for why he already knew RS was town, but it dosn't at all answer the rest of the point, which is the question of why he didn't try all that hard to stop the lynch then.

[Y]

I'm not completely sure about eldarad. I'm really torn between "Scared scum" and "Really bad player" (Note that RS was even less logical than eldarad is, and he was town).

The other reason I'm not voting yet is that I think Andy requires much more attention than he's given. He's been lurking the whole game, hammered twice with no good reason (Unless impatience is a good reason) and failed to address the questions he was asked or to actually write the content he promised about other players.

I'd prefer hearing some more from Andy before I help finish the day (Especially since we might lose if make a mistake here).

[Yosarian2]

/post

[hasdgfas]

I'd prefer hearing some more from Andy before I help finish the day.

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[Tiger Twins]

In three or four days I'll be on vacation, won't be able to unvote, and won't be able to post once a day for deadline purposes.

Preferring hearing from Andy is all well and good...

But I'd prefer to

get a lynch

before we finish the day. 5/8 posting is no easy feat to maintain. If you think andy is the lynch, go for it.

If you think it is eldarad, go for that too.

Not voting at what very well could be lylo with this crazy deadline mechanic is not beneficial, though.

~Guardian

[Mizzy]

/deadline post