Large Normal 220: Jazz Mafia [Game Over!]

[Flavor Leaf]

I caught him, brought it up in mason thread, and Saudade took credit for it

[The Last Knight]

Oh no the guy with one vote is threatening to leave the vote again.

[Saudade]

You underestimate the power of my charisma

[Saudade]

Wanna bet you eat rope today?

If you lose you put the "i lost to saudade the king" in your signature for a week

[Saudade]

Be a man accept my bet

[The Last Knight]

Ya okay.

If you don't, your new signature is "How did the new, hot and fresh Last Knight beat me?"

[Saudade]

Get in here boys rope this man

[Creature]

No

[Saudade]

):

[Something_Smart]

Sig bets are against the rules, knock it off.

[Flavor Leaf]

Are they? I didn’t know that

[Flavor Leaf]

Did RC and I cause that?

[The Last Knight]

Sig bets are against the rules, knock it off.

Dang, it's all in good fun though.

[Something_Smart]

Sig bets are against the rules, knock it off.

Dang, it's all in good fun though.

The problem is that it's an out of game influence. If you're town you can do something like "if I'm scum here I will put [insert awful thing here] in my sig for five years" and then you either have to go back on it when you are scum, which defeats the whole point of the bet and pisses people off, or you actually do it as scum, which is doing an out-of-game action for the sake of winning a game.

It gets worse when you think about statements like "if I'm scum I'll pay you a hundred bucks" or "if I'm scum I'll quit mafia forever." You can say these things as town and they mean nothing, but they mean a lot if you say them as scum, which is problematic.

If people see you promising to do a thing if you're scum that they know you won't do, and you have a reputation for always keeping those promises, then that's a trust tell-- and they're illegal. If Boon hasn't already explained to you what a trust tell is, you can ask him to (since I know he's gotten in trouble for them in the past)

[Something_Smart]

Did RC and I cause that?

In all honesty, I would not be surprised.

[Saudade]

Just lynch him la?

[The Last Knight]

Sig bets are against the rules, knock it off.

Dang, it's all in good fun though.

The problem is that it's an out of game influence. If you're town you can do something like "if I'm scum here I will put [insert awful thing here] in my sig for five years" and then you either have to go back on it when you are scum, which defeats the whole point of the bet and pisses people off, or you actually do it as scum, which is doing an out-of-game action for the sake of winning a game.

It gets worse when you think about statements like "if I'm scum I'll pay you a hundred bucks" or "if I'm scum I'll quit mafia forever." You can say these things as town and they mean nothing, but they mean a lot if you say them as scum, which is problematic.

If people see you promising to do a thing if you're scum that they know you won't do, and you have a reputation for always keeping those promises, then that's a trust tell-- and they're illegal. If Boon hasn't already explained to you what a trust tell is, you can ask him to (since I know he's gotten in trouble for them in the past)

Yeah that makes sense but the bet is only if he can lynch me or not and doesn't have anything to do with alignment.

[BrightEyedFish]

Just lynch him la?

If TLK didn't exist would you vote baezu with me?

[Saudade]

Not baezu no

[Saudade]

I think i would smack my mason partner FL here.. or you fish

[Saudade]

Would probably smack u fish no offense uve been terrible

[BrightEyedFish]

Would probably smack u fish no offense uve been terrible

I've learned the err of my ways, that's why I'm sheeping you ol' wise one.

[ofrhz]

obviously, don't include garbage gut reads like Lucian and ofrhz.

I have a gut townread on ofrhz

[ofrhz]

I want to wait and see if night actions resolve the claims

VOTE: luv

[Skygazer]

.