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Post Post #375 (ISO) » Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:43 pm

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Yea, well, its not that my role gets bigger, its just that there really is another part to the 1-UP (and Surye knows this too) that I haven't revealed and don't plan to because if I do reveal, I'm dead N2. My only thread of safety right now relies on the unrevealed 2nd effect of the 1-UP mushroom.


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TheSweatpantsNinja (5): sideney, iamausername, Gimbo, Riceballtail, Rogue Shenanigans
Cream147 (3): armlx, Phoebus, Alabaska J
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Post Post #376 (ISO) » Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:13 pm

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iamausername wrote: Well, now that Surye's touched his mushroom (lol), we can be sure that he's not making this up as he goes along.
*Unless, of course, gimbo and surye are both scum who worked out a complicated claiming plan beforehand. . . er, yeah, gimbo's probably town.
rogue shenanigans wrote: Individual based decisions on coin use> majority based coin use that can be influenced and corrupted by scum.
Care to back that up?
faerielord wrote: Pooling all our coins will render everyone that doesn't have a coin useless, but this way everyone could potentially be a threat.
And the benefit of having "everyone potentially being a threat. . . is?"
riceballtail wrote: It would most likely end up hurting the town to mass vig and pool coins, as those who do not start with self recovery items are now at risk of your plan. It's a great idea... as a scum.
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Post Post #377 (ISO) » Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:27 pm

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TheSweatpantsNinja is town BTW. I dont understand the reasoning in this wagon. "I dont agree with him, yes that totally makes him scum"
At least he's given some ideas.
I still think that there's a way we can optimize our coins. Communism doesnt sound too bad in the right hands. Let me think, OK? TSN and his oppositors, can you explain town what are the pros and cons of their suggestions?
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Post Post #378 (ISO) » Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:01 pm

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I get what you are saying Gimbo.

TSN seems like town, albeit his logic is not stellar. There probably is an optimal coin plan, but I don't think D1 mass claim and sort is it. Cream is more suspicious to me.
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Post Post #379 (ISO) » Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:55 pm

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tspn wrote:And the benefit of having "everyone potentially being a threat. . . is?"
You mean apart from scum not knowing where to hit?
popu wrote:TheSweatpantsNinja is town BTW. I dont understand the reasoning in this wagon. "I dont agree with him, yes that totally makes him scum"
I agree with this. I don't think TSPN is scum, I think he is just wrong.
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Post Post #380 (ISO) » Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:58 pm

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armlx wrote:I get what you are saying Gimbo.

TSN seems like town, albeit his logic is not stellar. There probably is an optimal coin plan, but I don't think D1 mass claim and sort is it. Cream is more suspicious to me.
*yawn*. What have I done? I'm in no way concerned about getting lynched, as Gimbo will revive me, but seriously, what I have done wrong? And of course, once Gimbo revives me I'll be nightkilled quicker than you can say 'night-kill' so it may be preferable not to get lynched.
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Post Post #381 (ISO) » Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:49 pm

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Cream147 wrote:
*yawn*. What have I done? I'm in no way concerned about getting lynched, as Gimbo will revive me, but seriously, what I have done wrong? And of course, once Gimbo revives me I'll be nightkilled quicker than you can say 'night-kill' so it may be preferable not to get lynched.
You seem pretty concerned if you ask me!
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Post Post #382 (ISO) » Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:02 pm

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FaerieLord wrote:
Cream147 wrote:
*yawn*. What have I done? I'm in no way concerned about getting lynched, as Gimbo will revive me, but seriously, what I have done wrong? And of course, once Gimbo revives me I'll be nightkilled quicker than you can say 'night-kill' so it may be preferable not to get lynched.
You seem pretty concerned if you ask me!
I just want to know in what way I've looked scummy.
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Post Post #383 (ISO) » Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:52 pm

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If it is just that, why did you feel the need to *yawn* and post indifferently to Armlx's comment? You seem pretty worried that you are going to get lynched, though you post as though it's nothing.
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Post Post #384 (ISO) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:28 am

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FaerieLord wrote:If it is just that, why did you feel the need to *yawn* and post indifferently to Armlx's comment? You seem pretty worried that you are going to get lynched, though you post as though it's nothing.
Then lynch me then! I'd rather not get lynched, because I'll be primary mafia target, and I also want to know what I've done that's scummy, so I can improve my play in future games. That's why I'm concerned about getting lynched.
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Post Post #385 (ISO) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:04 am

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This is a different Cream.
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Post Post #386 (ISO) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:25 am

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Cream, its hard to put a finger on the hunch I'm getting about you, I'm gonna give you time to prove me wrong ;)
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Post Post #387 (ISO) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:12 am

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What is rubbing me wrong with TSN is that he FOS's anyone that disagrees with him. I showed the numbers on why I felt the odds of coin pooling was bad and he still wanted to go along with it. I think he is nuts, but not scummy. I think creams attitude doesn't sound scummy to me. What exactly is the case against him?
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Post Post #388 (ISO) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:31 am

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farside22 wrote:What is rubbing me wrong with TSN is that he FOS's anyone that disagrees with him. I showed the numbers on why I felt the odds of coin pooling was bad and he still wanted to go along with it. I think he is nuts, but not scummy. I think creams attitude doesn't sound scummy to me. What exactly is the case against him?
How can you know if he doesnt sound scummy if you havent read all the case against him?
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Post Post #389 (ISO) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:32 am

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Post Post #390 (ISO) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:44 am

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farside - remember a few pages back when you gave me a mushroom? Well, if you were a regular townie, why would you give me a mushroom? Because without the mushroom, you basically have no way of protecting yourself for sure on N1.

Maybe it's because you knew you won't die N1 no matter what and giving me the mushroom was a way to prove your loyalty? .. which leads to to place a tiny FoS on you ;]
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Post Post #391 (ISO) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:57 am

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Gimbo wrote:farside - remember a few pages back when you gave me a mushroom? Well, if you were a regular townie, why would you give me a mushroom? Because without the mushroom, you basically have no way of protecting yourself for sure on N1.

Maybe it's because you knew you won't die N1 no matter what and giving me the mushroom was a way to prove your loyalty? .. which leads to to place a tiny FoS on you ;]
Doesn't make sense at all.

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Post Post #392 (ISO) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:03 am

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I have an air of scumminess around my posts. I have never played a game where I haven't been suspected for one thing or another.
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Post Post #393 (ISO) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:07 am

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Rogue - scums better think twice before gunning for my ass -_-

Cream - yea, you do, but it is kinda a good thing when the way you act in a game is so fricking ambiguous no one can figure you out.


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Post Post #394 (ISO) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:01 am

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Cream wrote:Then lynch me then! I'd rather not get lynched, because I'll be primary mafia target, and I also want to know what I've done that's scummy, so I can improve my play in future games. That's why I'm concerned about getting lynched.
I don't know what the whole case against you is, other than the opportunistic vote, but I can say that if I were finding you suspicious, the last few posts wouldn't have changed my idea as they give up a vibe of indifference and right afterwords over-defensiveness. Were I to give you advice on future games I'd say don't try to shrug off an attack again. It looks bad.
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Post Post #395 (ISO) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:16 am

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Can someone please tell me why people are voting TSPN in favor of Cream147? His opportunism earlier in the game was not only scummy, but when it was called out, he didn't bother to defend himself. TSPN has just posed a way to possibly eliminate scum. Not the best plan, but just because his plan has holes in it DOESN'T MEAN HE IS SCUM IMO. Why would scum bring up a plan that has the potential to destroy them? Assuming all anti-town groups lie about their coin count, the town should still have enough coins to blast away some scum in the endgame if they chose to do this plan later.
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Post Post #396 (ISO) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:19 am

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Pretty sure we have a scum here.
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Post Post #397 (ISO) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:21 am

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Like many here I don't see the case on cream. I bandwagoned purely to see reactions.

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Post Post #398 (ISO) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:37 am

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I'm not entirely sure about this but am I right here, but I believe that the whole case on me is basically my apparently opportunistic vote on Gimbo. I actually believed the case on him at the time, I don't see why I wasn't allowed to vote for him and cite those reasons.
Gimbo wrote:Cream - yea, you do, but it is kinda a good thing when the way you act in a game is so fricking ambiguous no one can figure you out.
Hehe, so useful that is, so useful. There was a game I was in (as town) where I was cited as the most scummy player by someone, and the most town player by someone else (both of them members of the town) in the same 24 hours. I'm not the easiest player to read.
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Post Post #399 (ISO) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:54 am

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Rogue Shenanigans wrote:Like many here I don't see the case on cream. I bandwagoned purely to see reactions.

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Then why did you unvote TSPN? What does his wagon have to do with Cream?
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