Open 69 - Two of Four Mafia (a9) - Game Over before 592

[Korts]

Well, that was... anticlimactic.

I wouldn't have expected the NK to be Lowell, he was acting pretty scummy. The mafia are either idiots, or are trying to generate WIFOM.

As a side note, mod, that's pretty awesome flavor.

[dcorbe]

Well, that was... anticlimactic.

I wouldn't have expected the NK to be Lowell, he was acting pretty scummy. The mafia are either idiots, or are trying to generate WIFOM.

As a side note, mod, that's pretty awesome flavor.

I don't think the Mob is dumb at all. I think they're smart as hell. I think they piled onto Albaska's wagon early hoping that the town wasn't paying attention -- and it worked. They led the town along on that lynch.

Besides looking at Darla for obvious reasons, we need to look at some of the people who were first on that wagon:

Lowell (RIP) was a totally random vote, and I was going to build a case against him based on the fact that he didn't unvote.

roflcopter was next on the wagon. This fact alone make him a tiny bit suspicious, but I sort of expected him to be the mob target and not lowell, so this makes me wonder if his motives were even remotely in the best interests of the town.

There's other things about roflcopter that I now find suspicios. For example, post 105:

more votes for lowell are necessary

mod, vote count please

And then a few posts later (109) with no explanation, Korts jumped on

All and all:

FoS: roflcopter

Slight FoS: Korts

though only slight at this point.

[Korts]

I'm sorry if I'm too tired to understand, but how is asking for a votecount a valid point in the case against rofl?

Also, I jumped on without explanation because I thought it was obvious why I did. I already had bitched about Lowell not being helpful, and he kept that up.

[dcorbe]

I'm sorry if I'm too tired to understand, but how is asking for a votecount a valid point in the case against rofl?

Also, I jumped on without explanation because I thought it was obvious why I did. I already had bitched about Lowell not being helpful, and he kept that up.

Read the line above him asking for the vote count, where he demands more votes for lowell with no further explanation on his part.

[Alabaska J]

you guys are retarded :/

[dcorbe]

you guys are retarded :/

Get back in your grave!

[Natirasha]

Strangest NK I've seen in a good while.

Anyways, in order of scum to not scum.

Roflcopter and Darla seem to be the targets of the day.

[roflcopter]

Strangest NK I've seen in a good while.

Anyways, in order of scum to not scum.

Roflcopter and Darla seem to be the targets of the day.

you seem to be pointendly ignoring korts.

that lynch was ridic, i didn't realize it was only five to lynch but the wagon built too fast anyway.

dbe looked like legit not noticing she was hammering, which is bad but i also didn't take into account the fact that this game is 9p instead of 12p.

korts on the other hand just /agreed with me and voted.

vote: natirasha

fos: korts

[dcorbe]

Strangest NK I've seen in a good while.

Anyways, in order of scum to not scum.

Roflcopter and Darla seem to be the targets of the day.

you seem to be pointendly ignoring korts.

that lynch was ridic, i didn't realize it was only five to lynch but the wagon built too fast anyway.

dbe looked like legit not noticing she was hammering, which is bad but i also didn't take into account the fact that this game is 9p instead of 12p.

korts on the other hand just /agreed with me and voted.

vote: natirasha

fos: korts

Interesting choice... Why natirasha? I don't even see any case building material around that vote from you...

[roflcopter]

i said it at the beginning of my post, he ignored korts and listed myself and dbe.

i also just read nat's posts in isolation, and what do you know, all he did yesterday was worthless self voting, banter about that, omgus voting dbe, and then sidling onto the lowell wagon with, again, an omgus vote.

[dcorbe]

i said it at the beginning of my post, he ignored korts and listed myself and dbe.

i also just read nat's posts in isolation, and what do you know, all he did yesterday was worthless self voting, banter about that, omgus voting dbe, and then sidling onto the lowell wagon with, again, an omgus vote.

Thanks for the explanation. Now I'm going to go back and re-read natirasha so I can decide if you're just trying to deflect or if you have a legitimate point.

Also, your FoSing Korts looks to me like suspected scum busing suspected scum, but that would be a weak point to build a case on. Just needed to get that out there.

[roflcopter]

my explanation for the fos was also right there in the post.

his vote for lowell was a bandwagon hop by simpling /agreeing with me.

[Korts]

rofl, your almost-OMGUS is noted. But what you say about Natirasha's posts is pretty important. Too bad you only isolated his posts because you wanted a reason behind your OMGUS.

The flaw in your FoS on me is that your vote didn't have any reason to it, either. Actually, I was kinda waiting for you to jump on me at the time for not giving a reason.

[roflcopter]

uh huh.

korts defending natirasha, as expected.

when i quote a post then vote for somebody, you can take it to mean "this post is scummy enough to vote for in my humble opinion" in the future.

that also wasn't the first time you simply /agreed with something i had said. i guess you're finally done trying to buddy up to me?

why don't you try reading nat's posts in isolation too and see if you agree with me instead of just accusing me of looking for any old excuse to "almost-OMGUS."

[Korts]

I agree that in isolation, Natirasha's posts are scummy enough to warrant a vote. I'm not actually fazed by your vote on him, I just noted that your suspicion of him started out with him suspecting you. Funny world, that's all I'm saying.

When you quote a post, then vote somebody, you probably should explain, because some people might think you just quoted randomly and tried to imply there was something scummy in it. Actually, I saw that particular post of Alabaska's as scummy, too. I have my reasons, I just didn't state them. A bit hypocritical that you would FoS me for the exact thing you did.

About the buddying up, all I can say is, great minds think alike, and you seem to post before me a lot. What can I do, rephase? Heck, I'm not made of time like that.

[dcorbe]

my explanation for the fos was also right there in the post.

his vote for lowell was a bandwagon hop by simpling /agreeing with me.

Yes, I saw your explanation for the FoS but I'm not buying it, because it seems like the thought never crossed your mind until I mentioned it in post 151 well after it occurred.

Also, Korts' refusal to even acknowledge me much less to refute anything I'm saying about him to instead concentrate on distancing himself from roflcopter is duly noted.

[Korts]

Also, Korts' refusal to even acknowledge me much less to refute anything I'm saying about him to instead concentrate on distancing himself from roflcopter is duly noted.

I don't see you accusing me of anything. What should I have replied to?

[dcorbe]

Also, Korts' refusal to even acknowledge me much less to refute anything I'm saying about him to instead concentrate on distancing himself from roflcopter is duly noted.

I don't see you accusing me of anything. What should I have replied to?

It's not really an accusation. More of an observation, but do me a favor please and reread this entire page.

[Korts]

If you mean post 151, I replied to that. If you mean post 153, that was a point in the case against rofl, therefore after you clarified it for me what you meant, I thought it proper to leave it to rofl to address it. I think it's a null tell, really, though.

[DarlaBlueEyes]

I can see some of the natirasha stuff, but I think it'd be better not to rush into another lynch.

I don't think I've ever been in a 9-player (besides a newbie) so I will be much more cautious with my vote now. (so used to 12+ player games where a vote is a lot less dangerous)

anyways onto the Natirasha thing, I re-read as well and rofl is correct, he added absolutely nothing helpful to the day, no scum hunting, nada. Just arguing about the self votes mainly.

FoS:Natirasha

[dcorbe]

Strangest NK I've seen in a good while.

Anyways, in order of scum to not scum.

Roflcopter and Darla seem to be the targets of the day.

Natirasha: We need a little more analysis from you, please. That along with your explanation on roflcopter's points about your behavior all day yesterday is going to help you out tremendously.

Also, we've gotten literally nothing at all from these two:

pojedinac (confirmed)
sykedoc (confirmed)


Post, please! We need feedback from EVERYONE.

[Korts]

dcorbe, have I answered what you wanted me to?

[Natirasha]

To tell you the truth, this game is the lowest one I've been paying attention to.
However, I have a personal "Do not replace" policy, and continue to play. Anyways, yesterday, I was dealing with Lowell and ignoring pretty much everyone else. I'm going to go re-read Korts and see why everyone seems to think he's scummy.

[Natirasha]

So...um...I still don't see the argument against Korts.

[dcorbe]

So...um...I still don't see the argument against Korts.

If you don't see a case against him please tell us why. Along those same lines, who should we be focusing on and why?