Mini 579 - The Plagues of Egypt Mafia - Over

[Musher333]

Every townie has received this standard message:

Welcome to Plagues of Egypt Mafia, [player].

[illustration of role]

You are [name], a [job]. You are a simple

townie

, with no special abilities.

I believe that every role has a name

as well as a

job title.

All it says like that is that i am a

Physician

as i already said.

[lord_hur]

Yes, please disclose your

name

, it should not give additional info to scum

I'm not sure that your food type should be disclosed just yet though, as it might help them.

Are you selectively not reading my posts or something ? And Mr Stoofer was asking your name too...

[Musher333]

Yes, please disclose your

name

, it should not give additional info to scum

I'm not sure that your food type should be disclosed just yet though, as it might help them.

Are you selectively not reading my posts or something ? And Mr Stoofer was asking your name too...

Ah just the way Stoofer underlined a bit i thought he was after that, my name is Kamazu.

[springlullaby]

Musher, if you want to claim, then claim and save us the pushing around.

Yay for even more role fishing. You basically said there that what you're hoping to get out of the "pushing around" was his role, and not to get scum lynched.

Unless you have another explanation ?


Also, I've already said that, but I will say it again : claiming is much more risky for town than in a normal game, because of the no-reveal rule. Town will NEVER (unless undo placed a special mechanism) know whether you lied or not, while scum will know your role as normal.

So, town, think twice about it.

But this is only my opinion : who, besides springlullaby, thinks Musher333 should claim and why ?

Way to be thick.

Musher, who did you protect and why. The way you claimed looks way bad.

[Mr Stoofer]

All it says like that is that i am a

Physician

as i already said.

my name is Kamazu.

~raises eyebrow~

[Musher333]

Musher, if you want to claim, then claim and save us the pushing around.

Yay for even more role fishing. You basically said there that what you're hoping to get out of the "pushing around" was his role, and not to get scum lynched.

Unless you have another explanation ?


Also, I've already said that, but I will say it again : claiming is much more risky for town than in a normal game, because of the no-reveal rule. Town will NEVER (unless undo placed a special mechanism) know whether you lied or not, while scum will know your role as normal.

So, town, think twice about it.

But this is only my opinion : who, besides springlullaby, thinks Musher333 should claim and why ?

Way to be thick.

Musher, who did you protect and why. The way you claimed looks way bad.

Night 0 i protected has because i had no info to go off, night 1 i protected tVoD because i felt that one of the people pushing for his lynch in day 1 may have been scum.

[Musher333]

All it says like that is that i am a

Physician

as i already said.

my name is Kamazu.

~raises eyebrow~

Why the raised eyebrows?

[lord_hur]

Stuff

Sigh. Back to insults. I am done wasting my time with you.


Musher333, your name claim surprises me as well.

[Musher333]

Stuff

Sigh. Back to insults. I am done wasting my time with you.


Musher333, your name claim surprises me as well.

Not my fault my character has a wierd name, i didn't make the game up and name the characters.

[SeraphicMirth]

unvote

for now, so that no one can just hammer. We need to figure out how believeable this claim is.

[SeraphicMirth]

durhh..forgot to use square brackets instead..sorry.

[HackerHuck]

I totally get what Mr Stoofer is saying. I'm now thinking Musher is likely scum from that claim and it's not because his name is weird.

Lord_hur - I believe that Musher brought up the topic of claiming before anyone else, so I don't see how Springlullaby can really be accused of rolefishing. Maybe you're the nervous scumbuddy who was afraid his partner didn't have a good claim thought up yet.

[lord_hur]

Lord_hur - I believe that Musher brought up the topic of claiming before anyone else, so I don't see how Springlullaby can really be accused of rolefishing.

Darn it, you're right. She was right, I was being thick about this : she just meant Musher333 wanted to claim no matter what.
The fact that he still claimed after I basically told him not to do so supports that too.

The only thing that doesnt match, is the name he claimed. I would rather picture him taking a name fitting the setup...

Maybe you're the nervous scumbuddy who was afraid his partner didn't have a good claim thought up yet.

If I were Musher333's partner (so assuming me and him scum), I would not have expected any good claim from him. I would just have bussed him. Also, if I were his partner, he would have listened to me when I said not to claim.

[Singing Librarian]

Interesting claim, but I don't think it helps matters very much at all. It seems fairly plausible to me, but it doesn't really push things in either direction. Doctor seems to be the ultimate scum fakeclaim, but equally doctors are quite a common role and it's entirely possible he is one. I can see no compelling evidence either way, or any vague, non-compelling evidence, for that matter.

[undo]

strife220 replaces thevampireofdusseldorf, effective immediately.

Also, expandable

deadline: June 15 at 10 PM GMT

. If you feel you need more time, let me know, please.

[strife220]

Hi all. Will finish a full read-through and post opinions by the end of the weekend

[lord_hur]

Hi all. Will finish a full read-through and post opinions by the end of the weekend

Roger. I hope you will be less confusing than VOD...

[springlullaby]

What kind of doc refuse a free protect?

I don't believe this claim, I'm gonna let everyone have their say before switching my vote.

[lord_hur]

What kind of doc refuse a free protect?

I don't believe this claim, I'm gonna let everyone have their say before switching my vote.

He said he protected hasdgfas night 0, and thevampireofdusseldorf night 1.

[springlullaby]

Misread that, still, I'm not buying that claim.

[hasdgfas]

Misread that, still, I'm not buying that claim.

Do you mind explaining why?

[springlullaby]

I'm not liking the way he did it.

[springlullaby]

Hasdgfas, what do you think of that claim?

[hasdgfas]

Hasdgfas, what do you think of that claim?

I think that the fact that it came in parts looks pretty bad.

[strife220]

Done D1. Lack of role-reveals makes the game a lot trickier huh...

Regarding the lynch on Guardian - I'm still unsure of his alignment. He obviously played poorly, regardless of whether or not he was telling the truth. The most significant points I noticed that make me confident he was scum were: His role (Jew), his terrible pseudo-cop play, and his self-hammer. However, putting these (significant) things aside, the way he played his game seemed very much like a fumbling pro-town. The way he was apologizing for poor play, his talk of his own lynch and how he was hurting town, his statements at the end of the day about thoughts on other players. His last page of D1 where he talked about Stoofer being his biggest suspect, and listed 3 people as likely town, I find exceptionally interesting. If he knew that his role wasn't going to be revealed upon death, then he made a clever move. However it's unclear if scum understand the mechanics at work here - if he thought his role was going to be revealed, then I'd expect he was a miller. I'm unclear where he got the confidence that the 3 said people were so likely town, which makes me think he was scum...

Oh my, thoughts running in circles again... I still have a lot of catching up to do, but if I were to have subbed in at the beginning of D2, my 1st and 2nd actions would be to figure out why he thought said players were so likely town, and then look deeper into the 'stoofer-as-scum' theory.

Will finish tomorrow