Mini 2072: Timeshift Mafia IV [GAME OVER]

[rosterfoster]

Did firebringer say that they had an inno on RR though?

I’m so confused by that. Are you sure it’s a guilty on Mastina?

[Titus]

I am too tired to this shit.

[Something_Smart]

I am too tired to this shit.

Lol no kidding

[rosterfoster]

It’s so fucking confusing.

Wtf actually happened to this game?

[TTTT]

day 3 opened with TTTT softing a guilty on RR

VOTE: Rainbow
you've been naughty

then FB was like nah bruh

I checked rainbow reads last night.
Rainbow is town.

SS was like hold up a minute

One small question.

If he's a backup cop, he wasn't able to use his ability until N2. How does he have a result already?

Fire be all I dunno

One small question.

If he's a backup cop, he wasn't able to use his ability until N2. How does he have a result already?

I don't honestly know why either tbh.

and then he goes mebbe dis...

I got "your target is town". so in theory it could have been from lights time shift but I never heard of a role being used like that.

Time Devil goes No way Jose!

okay, that was weird.

Firebringer claimed backup cop, then said he disregards timeshifts, then says that he isn't a non-timeshifted backup cop (read: backup cop that disregards timeshifts)?

And then 990 gets posted.

VOTE: Firebringer

You've been caught in a lie. And 991 isn't helping your case.

-TL

TTTT is like haha lolol I wasn't being for realsies

where is rainbow?
I'm agnostic on Firebringer's claim that rainbow is town

Then Eyes goes BOOM! I'm the backup cop and I've got a guilty on Mastina. Sup now bitches?

Hi. A tldr would be very much appreciated. I'll try to do a catch up ASAP, nut it should help if I know of any claims or major/special incidents that happened.

A backup cop claimed a guilty on you so we're lynching you unless you've got an answer for why they got the result they did.

Funny, cuz I'm the backup cop and I've got a guilty on you.

VOTE: mastina

TLDR:
Fire says he's backup cop with an inno on RR
Eyes says he's backup cop with a guilty on Mastina
TTTT is conftown for this great post

[TTTT]

hope that helps

[rosterfoster]

You’re the best <3.

I’m still so fucking confused though. Why would Scum eyes even say a different result?

[Eyes without a face]

Geez. This isn't funny. I tried to do a catch up and a bunch of players appear to have been in the game and replaced out but the OP doesn't have the replacements marked. I guess I'll need to ISO the mod backwards in order to learn who was whom before I do the game read properly.

[Something_Smart]

There's a separate "replacements" spoiler in the OP.

It confused me at first, too.

[Eyes without a face]

Why would Scum eyes even say a different result?

Because I'm not scum? FB probably was messing around before he outed the guilty.

On another note I am even more confused as to why I only got a 1-shot Timeshifted Cop when Light_Ganski had 3-shots. Assuming he used up one on N1 I should have received TWO, but the mod only gave me (FB) one and he already used it on Mastina.

Which brings me to the fact a N1 kill did resolve on the same night. This proves scum have a the ability to do Timeshited kills. On the other hand nobody died on N2 so it looks like they have limited shots of the Timeshifted kills, and the rest of them are normal/delayed kills.

I will back shortly.

P-edit: Really? Thanks a million..

[mastina]

Did firebringer say that they had an inno on RR though?
I’m so confused by that. Are you sure it’s a guilty on Mastina?

The slot's bullshitting. This is what Firebringer said of his claim:

i am a back up cop.

...Which he modified to include:

also i want to report that i am aware of when time shifts happen that is byproduct of my role, so all of mastinas shenanigans that is mixed with role play is complete bs. nothing has happened time-wise.

...And that is contradicted by his confusion here:

not that much given its 3 shot.
unless its delayed by 2-3 days.
Which frankly shouldn't we have a full role pm to know when the results would have been given?
The mod hasn't even told me when I am supposed to get results for my back up shots now.

Why isn't yahmoose action not timeshifted btw? Shouldn't most abilities in this game be time-shifted and why isn't her vig a timeshift?

...Which is ultimately not as relevant as him changing his claim here:

btw my back up role doesn't apply to cop. it applies to any timeshift roles that are town and have shots remaining.
So there are more timeshift roles in this game.

I don't know if i believe that non timeshift vig role exists when theres probably at least 2-3 more timeshift roles in this game.

He changed from "backup cop" to "backup of timeshifted roles".

And yet in spite of being a claimed backup of timeshifted roles...he changed his claim AGAIN today, when...

I checked rainbow reads last night.
Rainbow is town.

One small question. If he's a backup cop, he wasn't able to use his ability until N2. How does he have a result already?

I don't honestly know why either tbh.

I got "your target is town". so in theory it could have been from lights time shift but I never heard of a role being used like that.

just that I got lights cop shots.

ohh wait it says my cop shot disregards timeshifts. I should read more.

And you had 3 or 2?

id rather not say.

(^This one's not a contradiction, but IS bullshit.)

Then we get Eyes coming in today.

Hi. A tldr would be very much appreciated. I'll try to do a catch up ASAP, nut it should help if I know of any claims or major/special incidents that happened.

Also how long till deadline?

Thank you

UNVOTE:

Why did I include that timestamp?
Because Eyes implied here that he was getting ready to catch up on the game.

This gave me the idea for my reaction test:

Hi. A tldr would be very much appreciated. I'll try to do a catch up ASAP, nut it should help if I know of any claims or major/special incidents that happened.

A backup cop claimed a guilty on you so we're lynching you unless you've got an answer for why they got the result they did.

This was ten minutes later.

Eyes should have still been around at that time.

However.

It took Eyes

seven hours

to come back with this:

Hi. A tldr would be very much appreciated. I'll try to do a catch up ASAP, nut it should help if I know of any claims or major/special incidents that happened.

A backup cop claimed a guilty on you so we're lynching you unless you've got an answer for why they got the result they did.

Funny, cuz I'm the backup cop and I've got a guilty on you.
VOTE: mastina

Why do I think this change is particularly damning?

Because Firebringer at multiple times in his iso referenced checking me/tunneling me/wanting to turbo-lynch me and I fully believe that in the scum PT Firebringer would've left a comment along the lines of "I want to fake a guilty on mastina".
(Want me to track down the posts where he indicates this? Would take a little longer than this, but is doable.)

Eyes is scum, who replaced into a scum fakeclaim that he had no clue how to handle. Firebringer was contradictory at multiple times, so what his story would be would be hard for a replacement to pick up on.

[Eyes without a face]

Well, you have one of two options:

1- Admit your guilt and eat rope, and let your scum buddies shoot me at night )with the risk that I maybe lying about receiving just one shot, so a chance to clear/guilty someone else)

2- Lynch me, and I flip what I (and FB) have claimed to be, so you are the lynch tomorrow anyway. It just serves you better to lynch me here and now so as not to waste a NK on me and make sure I'm not bluffing about having ran out of cop shots.

The problem is you are already on my wagon, so let's see if a scum buddy of yours has the balls to come hammer me (thus claiming scum as well).

[rosterfoster]

Which brings me to the fact a N1 kill did resolve on the same night. This proves scum have a the ability to do Timeshited kills. On the other hand nobody died on N2 so it looks like they have limited shots of the Timeshifted kills, and the rest of them are normal/delayed kills.

That kill was claimed by a vig.

It's possible this is some sort of weird pseudo-nightless or that the scum only have 1 kill or something.

[rosterfoster]

Yeah eyes I'm sorry but I think you're just scum. Sucks for you to replace into scum like this but what can you do.

[Eyes without a face]

Then do hammer me and prove my read wrong on you (which wouldn't be surprising sine I only played you as scum. I was scum with you once and scum against town you once, so to my recollection I have never really had to effort to read you)

My final reads:

Town: RR
Likely Town: SS, TTTT, Roster
Not Sure: TD, Inso, Titus
Scum lean: Fuscosco
Conf.Scum: Mastina

[Eyes without a face]

And it's actually a good thing I get lynched now, so I don't need to bother catching up beyond page 7

[rosterfoster]

Eyes I'm already voting you.

[Eyes without a face]

Eyes I'm already voting you.

Oh, well.. I am not really paying attention to the composition of my wagon, as I'm trying to be as impartial as possible while I'm catching up.

Anyway, good luck to the town. I wish I could have helped you more, but it seems scum have got a good hold of the day play .. at least for this day phase. I can't believe you're lynching an unCC'd cop (backup Cop) claim.

[Eyes without a face]

Wait! who's the Vig?? And if they still exist then we can lynch Mastina and they can shoot me if I'm lying. Right? This doesn't even make sense. Why lynch the Cop claim and Vig the guilty afterwards?

[rosterfoster]

It was 1-shot vig.

Yamoose.

[Eyes without a face]

Then do hammer me and prove my read wrong on you (which wouldn't be surprising sine I only played you as scum. I was scum with you once and scum against town you once, so to my recollection I have never really had to effort to read you)

My final reads:

Town: RR
Likely Town: SS, TTTT, Roster
Not Sure: TD, Inso, Titus
Scum lean: Fuscosco
Conf.Scum: Mastina

Update

Town: RR
Likely Town: SS, TTTT, Roster, Titus
Not Sure: Inso,
Scum lean: Fuscosco, TD,
Conf.Scum: Mastina

Titus moves up and TD moves down... still catching up until the thread is locked

[Eyes without a face]

Rightodude [L-3] Rosterfoster, TTTT, Ceejayvinoya, Rainbow Reads Rosterfoster, TTTT, Ceejayvinoya, Rainbow Reads

This was an all-town wagon, regardless of Rightodude's flip.

[Eyes without a face]

??? Why did it repeat the wagon?? I just marked the text and pressed quote!

[Eyes without a face]

Town: RR
Likely Town: SS, TTTT, Roster, Titus
Not Sure: Inso, TD,
Scum lean: Fuscosco,
Conf.Scum: Mastina

TD back to not sure. In fact I'm inclined to move them up to likely town because I don't think 343 comes from scum about their p.

[Time Devil]

I'm inclined to TR Eyes for the game-solvey readlists.

But Firebringer did nearly provably fakeclaim (the caveat being "non-timeshifted" actually meaning affected by the Timeshift mechanic so Firebringer is potentially correct - see 1073).

Regardless, I'm going to shift my vote away from Eyes right now.

VOTE: mastina

-TL