Realistic Mafia - Game Over

GhostWriter · Post Post #1575 (ISO) » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:53 pm

You can't, except for the fact that that person can vouch for me, and thus, that pairing above cannot be true, which was the whole point I was trying to make.

SensFan · Post Post #1576 (ISO) » Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:08 pm

If that person is Crub, they could be lying.
If it's anyone but Crub, Crub could be doing the killing.

GhostWriter · Post Post #1577 (ISO) » Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:18 pm

Wait, you really don't know who that person is? It's kind of obvious. We've already told everyone about us having a masonic connection...

SensFan · Post Post #1578 (ISO) » Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:20 pm

I know. I am merely pointing out both sides of the argument.

armlx · Post Post #1579 (ISO) » Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:23 pm

Waiting on NN to confirm that you have indeed spent every night with him. If so, I endorse a Crub lynch first.

Singing Librarian · Post Post #1580 (ISO) » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:20 pm

Natirasha wrote:1. Why did you leave your house after Sensfan left?
2. Why were you late to town square? Dropping off a dead Suyre's body, perhaps?
2a. Why were you late to town square, Sensfan?
3. This is what I think what went down last night.

Suyre was still tied up in town square when we left. After "hiding in the bathroom" all night, Sensfan left and he had a chance to leave his house. At this time, he quickly went and killed Suyre. If you notice, it distinctly says in the day post that "Mayor killed in town square". Suyre would have been still tied up. Afterwards, you leave to erase the evidence/put up your gun and returned to town square. As such, you were late. Additionally, I think the reason Sensfan didn't find you was because you were speaking with your scum partner all night...at their house. However, this brings the question:
why were you seen leaving your house after Sensfan left?

Anyways,
Kill: Singing Librarian

Natirasha, Surye killing didn't work out very well yesterday due to him being the mayor. Sigh. If you've really sent in a killing action, you've seriously hurt the town.

I was seen leaving my house after SensFan left because I waited until he had gone to leave. Because SensFan was late, I was late as well.

I'm trying to think if there's anything else useful I can add before I die (assuming, of course, that Natirasha really has attempted to kill me). I didn't see SensFan attempt to kill 'me', so i certainly believe he was investigating rather than killing (a killer would probably have attacked the 'me' and realised their mistake afterwards).

I would hug the Mayor, but under the circumstances, I shall refrain.

NabakovNabakov · Post Post #1581 (ISO) » Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:25 am

I indeed confirm that GW has spent every night with me. N1 and N3 at his house, N2 at mine. As townies, we haven't been all that ambitious, but mutual protection has worked out so far.

So, if GW is scum, he has been of absolutely no use to his organization.

armlx · Post Post #1582 (ISO) » Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:28 am

Ok.

Unpseudovote, Pseudovote Crub

SensFan · Post Post #1583 (ISO) » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:54 am

Psuedovote: Crub

I can shoot, if we have an agreement.

Crub · Post Post #1584 (ISO) » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:28 pm

Who was Celebloki cleared by?

Crub · Post Post #1585 (ISO) » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:40 pm

lulz Awesome Pants.

Anyway I think if we have one scum left it's probably armlx.
If we have 1 scum from each family left it's probably nat and sens.
If we have a group of 3 scum it's probably Nab+GW+SL.

To me they're the only combinations that make sense.

Sens why so eager to shoot me?

SensFan · Post Post #1586 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:10 am

Crub wrote:Sens why so eager to shoot me?

I'm not eager at all. I just don't want this to drag to the point where we don't get another lynch, should we want it.

Natirasha · Post Post #1587 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:41 am

Crub wrote:Considering I was found innocent by a confirmed innocent cop, I do not understand why I am on everyone's list of possible scum at this point.

Natirasha considering you investigated Nab/GW night one and found one/both innocent why do you now think they're scum.

Since these both come down to the same question, I'll just say: We cannot trust our investigations.

Also Natirasha can you please clarify in your post above which "SensFan"'s are actually supposed to be SL's?

They are all correct.

I did not send in a kill, that was simply saying "I want you dead," SL.

Anyways, I can get behind a Crub lynch.

armlx · Post Post #1588 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:21 am

Crub makes a good point, the same cop that cleared him also cleared Bloki.

Natirasha · Post Post #1589 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:24 am

armlx wrote:Crub makes a good point, the same cop that cleared him also cleared Bloki.

What exactly does that mean? That means he didn't lie. However, that still doesn't change the sheer fact: our investigations are useless.

armlx · Post Post #1590 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:26 am

Natirasha wrote:
armlx wrote:Crub makes a good point, the same cop that cleared him also cleared Bloki.
What exactly does that mean? That means he didn't lie. However, that still doesn't change the sheer fact: our investigations are useless.

No, my point is ours in general haven't been 100% proven useless, but Awesome's have. Cop sanities and what not.

Natirasha · Post Post #1591 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:26 am

armlx wrote:
Natirasha wrote:
armlx wrote:Crub makes a good point, the same cop that cleared him also cleared Bloki.
What exactly does that mean? That means he didn't lie. However, that still doesn't change the sheer fact: our investigations are useless.
No, my point is ours in general haven't been 100% proven useless, but Awesome's have. Cop sanities and what not.

(facepalm)

KaleiÐoscøpe · Post Post #1592 (ISO) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:27 am

A wind of boredom blows through the town

NabakovNabakov · Post Post #1593 (ISO) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:36 am

There seem to be several issues with parsing investigation reliability, but that doesn't make investigations useless.

1) Standard cop sanity issues. If a cop has been consistently incorrect in his results, he might be plain insane.
2) Direct corruption issues. If a cop has been consistently or inconsistently incorrect in his results in a pattern that seems to favor a scum group, he might be corrupt.
3) Indirect corruption issues. If a cop has been inconsistently incorrect in no discernable pattern, his results might have been changed at the station.

Keep in mind that the second two situations would apply only to reports given to the mayor, not what the cop actually saw (though I supposed a directly corrupt cop would corroborate it in his posting while a duped cop would not)

Crub · Post Post #1594 (ISO) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:39 pm

SensFan did you investigate Awesome Pants and find him with me guilty?

Crub · Post Post #1595 (ISO) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:40 pm

armlx wrote:No, my point is ours in general haven't been 100% proven useless, but Awesome's have. Cop sanities and what not.

He fingered CyberBob night 0 correctly.

armlx · Post Post #1596 (ISO) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:57 pm

Crub wrote:
armlx wrote:No, my point is ours in general haven't been 100% proven useless, but Awesome's have. Cop sanities and what not.
He fingered CyberBob night 0 correctly.

Thats interesting. That would mean for his report to be wrong either A) all cop investigations would be flawed (possible) or B) different cops find different groups (less possible).

SensFan · Post Post #1597 (ISO) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:34 pm

Crub wrote:SensFan did you investigate Awesome Pants and find him with me guilty?

As I recall, it was 'acting suspiciously', not 'guilty'.

armlx · Post Post #1598 (ISO) » Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:17 am

SensFan wrote:
Crub wrote:SensFan did you investigate Awesome Pants and find him with me guilty?
As I recall, it was 'acting suspiciously', not 'guilty'.

Sounds similar to GW/NN.

Unpseudovote

I'm starting to get confused here.

Natirasha · Post Post #1599 (ISO) » Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:19 am

I'm starting to think of just ignoring all previous investigations at this point. Anyways, I'm still saying we kill SL or Crub.